marelio

Thats nonsense, the solution wasnt the idea of Kanda it was Akira. and you ignore the Rights of Akira, You missinterpret the whole storyline just because you are so obsessed from thinking a Minor and adult has sex, that it must be grooming, it must be manipulating. The simple fact that Akira talks to him about telling kanata and he said you must not do this is just a talk and help for Akira, He didnt insist he just helped him to find his own discision. Kanda btw is also vulnerable but has no intend of having sex with akira. he seeks his balance in ONS with other adults.

Its your right to think, that a relationsship between a Minor and adult is never ok. but in fact many countries have laws which allows consentual relationsships. So you can refuse it, but when its in the age limits and consentual its not your business.

The Problem of your Opinion is, that you dont accept that adolescent have the right to decide themself Its part of growing up. He needed Kanda more than Kanda needs him. And its sad, that all concentrate of Akira as victim of an invented sexual assault by ignoring, how he suffers because of his sexual orientation and the bullying. you abuse his vulnerable situation only for your own purpose.

So sad to hear, i wish you the best

They should not show us a total drunken man driving a car. He was so drunken, that he was not able to go, but will then drive safe?

I wish you the same, but in fact, what is the use of arguing with you, when you are not able to Substantiate your opinion thoroughly and address counterarguments. Perhaps im wrong but you give me no reason to rethink my positon on the contrary i feel confirmed cause your weak arguing ;)

In Fact in my country ti would be legal and our laws exist for a reason your Country didnt recognize. that the puberty is starting earlier. and the frontal lobe is full developed with 25, so what is your Point?

We think, that also 15 year old has right and needings. Here a link

https://beauftragte-missbrauch.de/en/themen/recht/criminal-law

You must understand that these Laws are made by humans and are a try to protect children on one side and on the other side give them freedeom to find theiir own way through life. So we can discuss if the ages are always well chosen but unfortunatly the most think these laws are like the 10 commandments and are not willing to discuss what is good or false

Our laws here are surely not perfect, they a try to balance protection with the rights so these things are not written in stone

Here the nest loser he wrote this

tomopiiro 7 minutes ago
@marelio You are aware that when you start arguing semantics when it comes to minors you yourself come off as a pedo, right? Weirdo.

and then immediatly blocked my, so he thougt i would not see it, but you get a message and need just to log out to read the insult.

But in fact the things are otherwise, Cause its often pedos who are overprotective wiht minors cause they dont view them as human beeings and individuals but as object of desire,

I defend the rights of Akira, especialy this show is an example, that young adolescent have a right to explore their sexuality without fear.

Imagine he is feelling guilty after being reject he feels inferior. How do you think Akira would feel if the man he have asekd him for help would become a law suit?

Its more you the part of the problem, have you ever talked to 15 year olds, they are adolescents some more mature, some less. And have vou talked to 19 or 20 Years old, they not realy mature or total grown up, the number 18 for adult is a descision not a biological fact.

The Problem with your view is, that you dont see Akira as an adolescent but just a stupid kid. But he is a human beeing with rights, and this includes to explore his sexuality. Thats why in many Countries it is allowed. Not because we thinking its god, but if it is really free consentz and the age gap is not to big, its not part of your business.

I dont protect Kanda, i protect Akiras right to live in peace and come clear with hiss sexuel orientation and mental health.

If you have better sources name then. And 15 and 20 depends the age gap on their birthdays. Please dont waste my time, if you are to lazy to think properly :D

here s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira who begs him, He himself still seeks his balance with one night stands, obviously with mem of same age or older, he is ready to leave, if akira comes to the point not to need him.

so its obvious he have no interest in having sex with a minor.

Perhaps you dont realize when Kids are groomed, because you just loog the Ages and then judging also when there is no grooming. I feel uncomfortable for Akira and his Pain because of that asshole of "friend" in middle school, who took away his joy of living.

And i dont think you are the mayority, you are more the minority who tries to hide the lack of arguments

There s no grooming, Kanda has no intention for grooming. They meet randomly, they shares their pain. Its Akira who begs him, He himself still seeks his balance with one night stands, obviously with mem of same age or older, he is ready to leave, if akira comes to the point not to need him.

so its obvious he have no interest in having sex with a minor.

its not easy to find good Sources, but i find some sites who confrimed my Opnion. The general age ist raised to 16, below 16 is the 5 year gap

https://globalchildexploitationpolicy.org/legal-summaries/japan

I think you referr to some sources, who just say that ghe general age of Consent is raise from 13 to 16. but many sources also say that for 14 or 15 year old is an Excepion when the partner is not 5 years older

@WangXian
i cant answer you in the thread because the person who is to lazy to read my comment blocked me, so i answer here. Your definition doesnt match the legal situation in Japan. Do you realy think they allow pedophil acitons? You and others ignore the fact, that Akira has rights to give consent to those things. Thats why the legal situaion is so balanced, on the one hand Protection for minors not getting manipultated or threatend but on the other hand giving minors a chance to explore their sexuality also with older, you can think that this wrong, but i just dont understand, when a Minor has a right to have relstionship with an adult? Never? Imagine a 17 Year with a 19 Year old? Pedophllia, cause on is minor and one is adult? You avoid all this question and avoid of just accepting what the series shows us. No normal thinking man or woman can say, he is manipulated on what we see in the series. And sorry if somenone gives an answer to you, that he refuse to read the comment but judging you would react in a same way,

How does the ex-crush react, when he finds out in the manga?

He is now about 23, when akira was 15 he was about 20. I understand that you avoid reading arguments, cause you know you have not one. you must rewrite the script for you accusations. Im not defending pedos, i defend Akira, for you just an objekt you can abuse for your stupid mind :D

i dont think they show us a illegal action, so in Japan the legal age gap between an 13-15 year old adolescent to his adult partner is less then 5 years,. So i think kanada is less then 5 years older. And for the rest, i desagree, the shows normalize nothing, if you think, the japanese laws are wrong, thats one thing. But as all the Accuser here, you dont accept that Akira has rights.

Its not grooming, thats nonsense In fact you lack to descripe a grooming thing, cause in your way every sexuel contact would be grooming. He has teached him without thinking of getting a possiblity for sex with him. It was just two gays who talked about their experiencees without ulterior motives and it was Akira who asked for it without beeing manipuleted. Its alway easy to say, hey there are better ways but life isnt just simple. And the point of Akira thinking he is not pure seems to me a question of having sex without feelings not the fact, that his sex partner is not his age. He would feel the same, when Kanda is just one year older than him. You abuse here Akira for your moral standards, but it dont work. You Rewrite the screenplay cause non grooming manipultating has happened. That means not, that im happy with the situation, but your and others just thinking in Black and White and not seeing the complet session is sad. And you i dislike the way you and others dehumanize Akira just to a prey and victim, He is a human beeing with rights.

ep. 2 was boring and hard to watch. No progression no real story. In fact i think Itt knows that Rit was lying but is interested in him and so all was teasing

Wir müssen uns auch nciht einig werden, sämtliche Altersgrenzen sind letztlich willkürlich von Menschen gezogen. Deswegen stört mich aber dei Absolutheit mit der hier viele diskutieren, als wäre das in sTein gemeißelte Wahrheit. Auch ich kann falschl liegen, aber meine Begründung für meine Meinung wird ja einfach ohne Argument einfach vom Tisch gewischt. Und viele finden es halt schade da wird ein Junge gezeigt, der durch Ablehnung und Mobbing seine Lebensfreud verliert und das rückt völlig in den Hintergrund. NIcht sein Schicklas wird diskutiert, sondern nur die Frage, ob sein Sexpartner nciht zu alt war.

Du schreibst oben, dass er ins Gefängnis gehen soll, wofür denn, wenn nicht für ein Verbrechen? Und so ziehen sich deine Ausreden durch. Du denkst an Akrias Gesundheit aber kommst nur als Besserwisser um die Ecke.. Behaupten kann man viel.

Dieser Fall ist doch genau der Grund warum in Deutschland die Sexualstraftaten so geregelt sind. Akira hat eben auch Rechte.

Und ich kämpfe für Akira und nicht für Kanda, aber das begreifst du nicht, weil dich der Gedanke so triggerd, ass Kanda mit Akira geschlafen hat, dass du alles andere verdrängst. Sei mir nicht böse, aber so wie viele homophobe selbst homosexuellle Neigungen haben, sind unter den Beschhützern der armen Kinder eben auch leute die genauso empfinden. Und dann dreht sich dein geschickter Vorwurf, deine Unfähigkeit sachlich zu argumentenieren, so Dinge ich ich habe nie gesagt er hat ein Verbrechen begangen während ein Post vorher steht, er gehört dafür ins Gefängnis. Dein Desinteresse Akira eigene Rechte zuzugestehen, nähren ehrlichwerie diesen Verdacht. Denn diese Grenzen sind alle willkürlich gezogen und daher immer diskutabel. Aber du hast ja schon meine Eräuterung zur Situation in Deutschland mit den Gründen als Essay abgetan.

Und natürlich kann so jemand eben nicht differenzieren,dass es um Akira geht und nicht um Kanada,

Nun, da du aus Deutschland bist, antworte ich auf Deutsch. Ich habe keinen Essay verfasst, sondern die deutsche Rechtslage erläutert und die Gründe hierfür aufgeführt. Diese kannst du offenbar nicht entkräften, also haust du einen raus. du solltest du nicht soviel an Sex mit Minderjährigen denken, sondern dir lieber ernsthafte GEdanken machen, waurm du hier auch Kanda falsch beschuldigst. Ein Freund eines Bruder der prifat Nachhilfe gibt ist keine Autorität, wede gesetzlich noch moralisch. Und auch an dich die dringennde bitte, denkt doch mal an Akira anstatt Kanda zu hassen. Wie würde isch Akikra fühlen, wenn Kanda ins Gefängnis muss, wieviel möchtest du dieser verletzten Seele noch zumuten nur um deinen Hass zu befriedigen.