My main problem with this drama stays the same - Amagi behaves like he's demon-possessed. One minute he's perfectly fine, the next his face does this weird thing that should bring all the exorcists to his yard. Or his body moves at unnatural angles. Or he says something odd, totally out of blue.
I'm trying so hard to like him. Or at the very least, take him seriously. But I just can't. I'm lowkey tense all the time, anticipating what he'll do next. Is it just my fault? Because it's starting to get to me 🙃
Quite frankly, I don't think Shin really even loves Minato. To me, it feels more like a child admiration turned…
" I think the fact that they added that fantasy element of Shin liking Minato ever since he was a child, makes it harder to decipher especially since the writing doesn’t really develop what made him develop such feelings properly."
Yeah, that's a big part of it. Saying he's loved him for all these years. We know that he had little, if any interaction with him during those years. So whatever "love" he felt for him would be purely based on that one contact. And I highly doubt an 8 year old boy can fall in love with someone romantically in earnest, and especially differentiate it from hero worshipping/admiration/gratitude mixed with shock and fear... purely based on that one interaction.
"Given that this is fiction, however, we see in the present time, that Shin has a lot of affection for Minato."
I could see that his feelings changed and developed for Minato more earnestly after they met again, if we were actually shown enough of his inner processes and interactions with Minato that would show me how/why he fell in deeper love. I mean, most of the scenes we are shown, Shin is either coming onto Minato strongly, or they are eating. There's very little scenes whey they actually get to know each other, spend time together just doing basic stuff... It's implied they do, but it's never really shown as far as I remember.
"Every time, he seeks Minato’s permission first such as when he asked if he can start courting Minato and then backing off when Minato tells him that he cannot return his feelings. Based on his own words, as well, with how he says that he will love Minato by himself if need be, without getting in Minato’s way, and helping Minato achieve happiness..."
This, to me, feels like a fear of rejection/ abandonement issue. I feel like he's trying to stay in Minato's life so badly, he's willing himself to be as effortless for Minato to be around him as he can. Personally, I would expect from someone that's really in love to be more emotionally affected by the rejections. I wouldn't certainly expect him to start cheering Minato on for his next relationship, and going as far as trying to set them up, in so little time. But since timeskips are a thing and we were never shown Shin's side of the "post-break-up" phase, it's really hard to tell for me. I guess I will just have to wait and finish it to make a final decision.
[Also, I will admit the age gap plays a big part in why I think he might not actually be in love with Minato. I find it less likely, considering everything we were (and especially weren't) shown about their relationship development.]
The third episode was basically more of the same. Not significantly better or worse than the first two parts.
I was a little disappointed that they are still showing Eiw very much spending all of his free time with Cake, because in 2nd episode they hinted at Eiw trying to isolate himself.
I really like the phones addition, even if neither of them was nokia 3310 😑
Yeah, he fainted. It's in character imo. I wasn't surprised one bit. Is it believable? I would say so.
Whats-his-name Cake's friend is an unexpected development for me! They'll either make him (romantically/platonically) interested in Eiw, or they'll make him a prankster/bully towards Eiw. Personally, I hope more for the first one. The second would probably be just useless (to me) drama.
We have yet to see Rin on screen (much?). I prefer it that way. It gives me hope this isn't going in the "girlfriend rival drama for 8 episodes" way plot. I'd hate that.
Kung has little to no presence. I expected more from the character, which is a bit odd. But I'm grateful that Fee is here to stay! At least for now 💚
I'm eagerly anticipating the time skip. Episode 7 at latest. Otherwise, this will surely drag.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the majority of the show is gonna be based in the past. None of the teasers or…
I hope not. I like the highschool stuff so far, but it's already loosing some steam and if they want to continue it, they are most likely to introduce the girlfriend drama (which I hate). Spreading it on 10 more episodes? It would be a disaster for me.
To me, Shin really represents unconditonal love or at least, pure love. He loves Minato without expecting or needing…
Quite frankly, I don't think Shin really even loves Minato. To me, it feels more like a child admiration turned crush turned possessive obsession. He's getting more mature in later episodes, but I still can't feel like he truly loves Minato. But the story does very little to convey their actual emotions, so I can't make sense of it either way.
The unpopular opinion I've been keeping for myself for almost three weeks now - the mother is the best actor and character out of those three so far!!!
She has depth, she has presence, there's a gradient to the morality of her actions... people might hate on her or find her annoying, but there's no denying she's stealing the spotlight for every scene she's in!
So far, In has given me almost nothing. He's nearly emotionless and what little he shows, it's usually done when he's alone with Wang. The one emotional scene he had with Sasiwimol? I don't think he acted it out that well actually. He's good enough for the role so far, but nothing really special.
As for Wang, he had more opportunity to present himself in these two episodes, so I like him more as a character and even think more highly of the actor. He's spoiled, he's jaded, he's a bit of a dreamer... but it works well for him. Compared the Sasi, though, he's still veiled in mystery and a bit sidelined for now.
I feel like most of the critique the mother character / actress is getting comes from one main source - she's a woman in what many people consider a Boys Love story. So she's basically relegated to either a restrained support role or an obstacle. And since Sasiwimol is presented as neither restrained or really supportive, most people will think of her as an enemy. The reason why Wang is bitter. The power keeping him and In apart. Preventing their happy ending. She's basically the female rival of BLs at this point. And people don't like those.
I would argue two things:
1. This is not your standard BL story (for better or for worse). Don't expect your standard BL dynamics from it. You will be sorely disappointed with what you'll get otherwise.
2. This is as much, if not more, Sasiwimol's story as it is Wang's and In's. She's here to stay.
This is weird. Like Rak Diao meets Oxygen meets YYY level of weird.
But I don't actually hate it that much? It has its cringey moments, it has its serious moments, it has its OTT moments and even lame moments. The real "romance" stuff will probably come next. The main actor is cute, and that's the best thing I can say about him. He's adorable to look at 💜
And also, I'm already halfway done, might as well finish it. Wouldn't really recommend it to anyone though, unless they are looking for specifically this. Whatever it is.
Ayan is like a dog that's all bark and no bite. I need him to kiss till Akk drops.
The uniform scandal is a bit too much imo. Like I get it's symbolic, but still. I just can't take the tension seriously, when it's about wearing uniforms. In a private, all-boys school. Which there are alternatives to. If you don't like it that much, just transfer? It isn't worth this much drama.
I don't like how Ayan's using the "world remembers" gang. He's urging them to continue putting their necks out, while he's hiding BTS.
So his family is full of gays? 🤣🤣🤣
"Do you live alone?" Not for looong ☺️
What about the undershirt, you coward?! 😮
I don't need to see him shirtless!! (not that I'm complaining 👀) I need Akk to see him shirtless!!! 🥰
Is this a kiss song?! Are we getting a kiss this soon? 😱😱😱
Of course not 😑
I feel like Ayan's actually getting serious with Akk. And as for Akk... he panickkk.
Love the nip-slip.
Gosh, this show is so baity! I'm sure we will move nowhere next week again, even if they preview 10 slip'n kisses(?) at once 🙃 (I'll still watch though, just to make sure 🤡)
I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, because a this point there is very little I would put past the writing…
Their dynamic would be so unintentionally funny! 🤣🤣🤣 I kinda want to see it now 😶
Judging from the poster, they fully intended to leave the plot as it is and have him play a serious, reserved, experienced bodyguard with Baiboon as his immature partner and Kamol being his eccentric boss 🙃
I know I'm shallow, but purely appearance-based, I think this might be their best cast (yet)!!! 💚
Though I'd have prefered them sticking with the first cast for all 2moonsy stuff, once they changed it, I don't really mind them doing it again. At this point, it might become sort of a rite of passage for aspiring BL actors and idols to star in 2moons IP.
Why is there a "Lesbian romance" tag? I've only seen the first 3 or 4 episodes but Metawee and Jin only seem to…
Kim's colleagues pose together for one of the promotional posters, so that might be a case why someone would assume they are meant to become lovers.
It's also kinda hinted at/mentioned/made light of in one of the official BTS videos. I think there's a real chance they might hint at it inside the show, but it's not going to develop beyond the bodyguards level of screentime imo.
Pharaoh, too?! 😱
That means Pan's manager must have a part in it, right?
That's kinda rude of Pan. But maybe deserved. If Pan believes they wouldn't be signed both, than his behaviour makes much more sense.
This fake ass b*tch. You started a storm, now weather it 😁
💔
[what the schedule meant? Basically what you'd expect - Nott's and Pan's shooting got cut short. I have no idea why they dwelled on it so much.]
This episode is rough. Rough rough.
I knew I hated that uncle for a reason. Go maim yourself real quick.
This feels too much like a happy ending for a penultimate episode. I'm not naive enough to believe 😑😑😑
That "wifey" comment. He didn't use the word they normally translate as wife. Was it also a feminine gender in thai?
[transparent not translated - should be "Horrible people thrive everywhere"]
This actually might end well. I mean, too bad Nott slept with Pharaoh, but it's all in the past, right? Right?! 🙃
I'm trying so hard to like him. Or at the very least, take him seriously. But I just can't. I'm lowkey tense all the time, anticipating what he'll do next. Is it just my fault? Because it's starting to get to me 🙃
Yeah, Amagi is still too much for me (face expression wise).
Does it mean we've successfully passed that time jump? 🥳🥳🥳
So he lied to the girl. Makes sense for the synopsis, now that I think about it.
Am I running a fever of does Amagi resemble young P'Pha (played by Benjamin) from 2moons2? It could be just the face expression he has when he smiles.
I'm used to japanese drama!!! Why am I cringing so hard each time Amagi moves abruptly? I feel lowkey ashamed of myself 🙈
It's fine now. So it's certainly the actor's/character's choice. Please, don't do it often. I almost died during the beach scene 🙏🙏🙏
They aren't very good at hiding it 🙃
Yeah, that's a big part of it. Saying he's loved him for all these years. We know that he had little, if any interaction with him during those years. So whatever "love" he felt for him would be purely based on that one contact. And I highly doubt an 8 year old boy can fall in love with someone romantically in earnest, and especially differentiate it from hero worshipping/admiration/gratitude mixed with shock and fear... purely based on that one interaction.
"Given that this is fiction, however, we see in the present time, that Shin has a lot of affection for Minato."
I could see that his feelings changed and developed for Minato more earnestly after they met again, if we were actually shown enough of his inner processes and interactions with Minato that would show me how/why he fell in deeper love. I mean, most of the scenes we are shown, Shin is either coming onto Minato strongly, or they are eating. There's very little scenes whey they actually get to know each other, spend time together just doing basic stuff... It's implied they do, but it's never really shown as far as I remember.
"Every time, he seeks Minato’s permission first such as when he asked if he can start courting Minato and then backing off when Minato tells him that he cannot return his feelings. Based on his own words, as well, with how he says that he will love Minato by himself if need be, without getting in Minato’s way, and helping Minato achieve happiness..."
This, to me, feels like a fear of rejection/ abandonement issue. I feel like he's trying to stay in Minato's life so badly, he's willing himself to be as effortless for Minato to be around him as he can. Personally, I would expect from someone that's really in love to be more emotionally affected by the rejections. I wouldn't certainly expect him to start cheering Minato on for his next relationship, and going as far as trying to set them up, in so little time. But since timeskips are a thing and we were never shown Shin's side of the "post-break-up" phase, it's really hard to tell for me. I guess I will just have to wait and finish it to make a final decision.
[Also, I will admit the age gap plays a big part in why I think he might not actually be in love with Minato. I find it less likely, considering everything we were (and especially weren't) shown about their relationship development.]
I was a little disappointed that they are still showing Eiw very much spending all of his free time with Cake, because in 2nd episode they hinted at Eiw trying to isolate himself.
I really like the phones addition, even if neither of them was nokia 3310 😑
Yeah, he fainted. It's in character imo. I wasn't surprised one bit. Is it believable? I would say so.
Whats-his-name Cake's friend is an unexpected development for me! They'll either make him (romantically/platonically) interested in Eiw, or they'll make him a prankster/bully towards Eiw. Personally, I hope more for the first one. The second would probably be just useless (to me) drama.
We have yet to see Rin on screen (much?). I prefer it that way. It gives me hope this isn't going in the "girlfriend rival drama for 8 episodes" way plot. I'd hate that.
Kung has little to no presence. I expected more from the character, which is a bit odd. But I'm grateful that Fee is here to stay! At least for now 💚
I'm eagerly anticipating the time skip. Episode 7 at latest. Otherwise, this will surely drag.
She has depth, she has presence, there's a gradient to the morality of her actions... people might hate on her or find her annoying, but there's no denying she's stealing the spotlight for every scene she's in!
So far, In has given me almost nothing. He's nearly emotionless and what little he shows, it's usually done when he's alone with Wang. The one emotional scene he had with Sasiwimol? I don't think he acted it out that well actually. He's good enough for the role so far, but nothing really special.
As for Wang, he had more opportunity to present himself in these two episodes, so I like him more as a character and even think more highly of the actor. He's spoiled, he's jaded, he's a bit of a dreamer... but it works well for him. Compared the Sasi, though, he's still veiled in mystery and a bit sidelined for now.
I feel like most of the critique the mother character / actress is getting comes from one main source - she's a woman in what many people consider a Boys Love story. So she's basically relegated to either a restrained support role or an obstacle. And since Sasiwimol is presented as neither restrained or really supportive, most people will think of her as an enemy. The reason why Wang is bitter. The power keeping him and In apart. Preventing their happy ending. She's basically the female rival of BLs at this point. And people don't like those.
I would argue two things:
1. This is not your standard BL story (for better or for worse). Don't expect your standard BL dynamics from it. You will be sorely disappointed with what you'll get otherwise.
2. This is as much, if not more, Sasiwimol's story as it is Wang's and In's. She's here to stay.
But I don't actually hate it that much? It has its cringey moments, it has its serious moments, it has its OTT moments and even lame moments. The real "romance" stuff will probably come next. The main actor is cute, and that's the best thing I can say about him. He's adorable to look at 💜
And also, I'm already halfway done, might as well finish it. Wouldn't really recommend it to anyone though, unless they are looking for specifically this. Whatever it is.
Ayan is like a dog that's all bark and no bite. I need him to kiss till Akk drops.
The uniform scandal is a bit too much imo. Like I get it's symbolic, but still. I just can't take the tension seriously, when it's about wearing uniforms. In a private, all-boys school. Which there are alternatives to. If you don't like it that much, just transfer? It isn't worth this much drama.
I don't like how Ayan's using the "world remembers" gang. He's urging them to continue putting their necks out, while he's hiding BTS.
So his family is full of gays? 🤣🤣🤣
"Do you live alone?" Not for looong ☺️
What about the undershirt, you coward?! 😮
I don't need to see him shirtless!! (not that I'm complaining 👀) I need Akk to see him shirtless!!! 🥰
Is this a kiss song?! Are we getting a kiss this soon? 😱😱😱
Of course not 😑
I feel like Ayan's actually getting serious with Akk. And as for Akk... he panickkk.
Love the nip-slip.
Gosh, this show is so baity! I'm sure we will move nowhere next week again, even if they preview 10 slip'n kisses(?) at once 🙃
(I'll still watch though, just to make sure 🤡)
You should fix that immediately, Sav 😶
[and if you by some miracle manage to find their novel, lmk]
Judging from the poster, they fully intended to leave the plot as it is and have him play a serious, reserved, experienced bodyguard with Baiboon as his immature partner and Kamol being his eccentric boss 🙃
Though I'd have prefered them sticking with the first cast for all 2moonsy stuff, once they changed it, I don't really mind them doing it again. At this point, it might become sort of a rite of passage for aspiring BL actors and idols to star in 2moons IP.
It's also kinda hinted at/mentioned/made light of in one of the official BTS videos. I think there's a real chance they might hint at it inside the show, but it's not going to develop beyond the bodyguards level of screentime imo.
I haven't read it, but from the way they framed it, I think it's more than just a sex for them 😄