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TY! This world would be a really crappy place if we all liked the same things! Why is someone else's opinion being different such a threat that it could drive someone to personal attacks, i've never understood. I hope we can show that L&S fans are not mean or petty to people. 🌈💖

The predominant global opinion is that this is not internationally recognized as "normal" for flirting behavior. On this topic, internationally, there is a majority consenus "standard", and SOME asian subcultures could use a critique or two from outside perspectives or have you never heard what happens to Hmong girls. Asian enertainment opens themselves up to this kind of conversation by aiming to make money by opening themselves up to international audiences.

Some of the things they do alienate their international audiences and turn them off. Knowing that gives them a choice between giving the international audience the bird, and losing some of their potential viewers and therefore revenue, or tone it down for the sake of appealing to a wider global audience.

You think there's only one culture in the world that thinks of themselves as the standard and deviating from it leads to critique, you've obvs never met the muslim/indian mad max gangs that prowl the pages of MDL looking for moral and religious fights.

😂😂😂 Oh yes, my watchlist def has some unpopular opinions in it. Lots of them. BUT! My 10 is not for Esther Yu! It is because I am constantly in search of A) spice B) kilig C) Toxic/red-flag/monster/badboy/taboo/forbidden angst/demon/morally gray/antihero/twisted/dark MLs.

You have no idea how hard it is to find a good show (with an HE) that fulfills all 3 criteria at once. So to me this one is up there with kunning palace and cranky blood drinking drug addicted forced kiss snow dementia Xie Wei. Also the cars part is really really good imo.

I have looked over your watchlist, and given your tastes (not going strictly by what I liked, but more by what I think you might like):

Slow burn, modern:
Amidst A Snowstorm Of Love
Life Is Sweet
Fake It Til You Make It
Falling Into You

Light and fun:

okay this is where it gets tricky because c-light and fun is different than k-light and fun. So you could branch off into several different types of "Light and Fun"

Makjang light and fun
Love On the Edge of Divorce
Playing House
My Lethal Man

Spicy light and fun
My Fated Boy

Comedic light and fun
The Princess Royal

Epic wuxia light and fun
When Destiny Brings the Demon

Action light and fun
Romance of Tiger and Rose

And just honorable mention to probably the most batshit crazy insane good-bad train wreck spicefest that ever graced the screen:

I Love My President Although He Is A Psycho

oh im sorry i didn't know black baby girl was a big thing.
I didn't know muslim girls tee-hee-hee'd under their burquas
I didn't know latinas were into baby dresses and doe eyes
I didn't know indigenous american girls pretend they can't fix the AC on the rez

SMDH omg...

if you want, you can tell me what kinds of things you want in your next drama, and i can give you some reccs if you want to put you in the right general vicinity of what you're after.

Ive watched so much c-drama at this point that the other day when i went into my local cantonese bakery, where everyone speaks cantonese, I sat down and instantly realized the family in the booth behind me was speaking mandarin, and I got so weirded out because I almost understood some of what they were saying.

That's a lotta c-dramas lol.

Tis the viking way. Norse life is bitter, and so follows the beverage. A good refreshment slaps you in the face with the harshness of this world, and braces you against the reality that looms ahead like a giant lifeless fjord full of coldness. Uff da.

I love this drama like in a very top 10 way, and I think Esther's acting is strong here, but even I have to admit that her crying needs just a little bit more work, it is her weakest link imo. Sometimes I believe it, and sometimes it hits that 'okay that's enough' nerve in my brain like when little kids fake cry to get toys and candy.

japanese, chinese and korean cultures all have a significant subsection of girls who behave like that. They're opened up now to international viewership, but still writing to asian audiences. And it can get awkward. Like how in c-dramas, its perfectly acceptable to wrap your hands around a womans throat in anger. Just try doing that to an american girl and see how far it gets you lollll. You'd get your ass kicked faster than you can say hǎo bù hǎo.

my family is norwegian, so i was sat down and ordered to drink coffee at age 12 as if liking it was not a choice but a genetic and cultural imperative.

right?!😂

in chinese culture men often consider it an accomplishment to have wives and daughters that act sweet, naive, spoiled, and innocent, because it says to others that you're such a good protector/provider that your women know nothing whatsoever of the cold cruel world. So then in turn, these girls are seen as a sort of status symbol to potential husbands because it means that A) she will reflect that image of alpha male onto you just by being with you and B) she has a father who gives a shit about her, and doesn't come from a broken home so it will be a good family to marry into.

Also it's pretty clear to me at this stage in the drama, that the big brother/little sister thing is a kink they both share, so she's playing it up to turn him on, and he's playing it up to turn her on.

I also thought for a long time about what FL's could have done a good job with this role... I came up with:

He Rui Xian, but idk if she could pass for 18-19 yo
Xu Zhen Zhen, if she were better at kiss scenes than what I've seen from her
Li Xing Yao

i used to watch k-dramas almost exclusively, and i switched a few years ago because of the drought of good content in k-drama land. I have stayed in c-dramaland ever since. Every now and then i check and see if anything good has come out on the k-side.

dynamite kiss is totally lit also, too bad eps only drop twice a week. But to me, that's the best thing to come out of k-romance in quite a long time. So stoked to see JKY with a super hot role, he deserves it imo.

I am a grown up and I hate grown up clothes. Maybe thats one of the reasons I like this drama 🤣

I was rl telling my aunt last night, she said she liked a business proposal and I said to her, ughhh I hated that show, I HATE pencil skirts. And what I hate even more than pencil skirts is pencil skirts and synthetic blouses and power jackets!!! That's why I didn't like Love Is Sweet either! Business casual attire and cardigans with midi skirts aaaaghgh!

I still wear barettes and sundresses with pants. I bet if you saw me in the grocery store you'd be like 'tsk-tsk... just look at that sh*t.' I don't care, nobody's ever getting me in a rayon blouse and a cardigan! I'll be wearing hoodies with boots and little poofy skirts and pink barettes when I'm 85!

i watch shit i don't like all the time, just to say i watched it. i'm like a cinephile so I often torture myself on purpose. When I do that, I like being able to come to the MDL page of the show and vent. As a huuuge fan of this show, I hope you feel welcome to express yourself openly without getting attacked for it. And I hope you get treated nicely here.

Some show's fans are so hostile it's just unreal. (ABAY, lookin at you...) But some shows have very nice fans (L&P, SOKP).

I had a bestie all through jr high and high school who actually had such similar facial expressions to Esther as Mumu that it feels a little bit eerie sometimes. And my bestie who kind of looked like Esther was super super cute on the outside, but on the inside she was WICKED funny. Absolutely hilarious.

So i'm cool with it, for this show. It's funny because with Esther, when she goes hard on her baby schtick, I can barely watch. For her, I'd call this a "medium" level. My condolences that your having to basically eat pancakes with WAYYYY too much syrup here.

I've had some unpopular opinions about shows before. I hated L&P. I thought LBFAD was mid. I despised ABAY. I got curbstomped in comments.

Am I seeing a pattern where lots of the shade for this show is coming from accts that the watchlist is almost all k-dramas?

I see a few people who watch a blend of c- k- or t- dramas and don't like this one. But I also feel like I'm seeing a lot of k-fan shade?

I just wonder if some k-watchers caught wind of the insane hype and jumped the fence to watch a c-drama, and are judging this drama by k-drama standards when normally they don't ever watch c-dramas so the culture shock is partially what's making them think this drama sucks when it clearly doesn't? Like for instance the FL babydoll thing, that's so not k. The lowkey humor instead of over the top humor is very un-k as well. Just as a few examples.

(this coming from someone who gave bon appetit your majesty a 10)
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please don't be mad, i couldn't resist. it's all in good fun for me, i don't get salty when people don't share my opinions on things. Honestly, though i SO don't agree, deep down i don't mind that you find it mid.

gotdangit, always with the badboy dramas, the ML has to pay in blood and sacrifice something extremely major to get an HE.

Justwhy, aughh!

Well, the food is really spicy. And the delivery is damn hot. That's all I have to say...