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As expected, the drama goes on expected lines in ep 22.

Like many many many other Cdrama, the 2ML makes clown of FL.
FL, so powerful and angry against ML becomes a weak pansy against the 2ML.
She does not even utter 1% of nonsense she did against the ML.

This is typical Cdrama trope.
the FL will be close to 2ML, show affection and friendship to him.
The drama also makes the ML witness this affection and friendship. It's part of the trope where the ML will need to deal with the very very closeness of FL and 2ML.

on other hand, the ML's in any of these Cdramas will never ever have any female close to him, similar to how the 2ML is close the FL in this drama.

These Cdramas are predictable crap really.
You could see this coming in Ep1.

These Cdrama writers have the same FL, ML, 2ML and same tropes in each and every drama of theirs.
just because the story is changed, does not make these dramas different.

This is turning out to be just another average Cdrama with repeated ML, FL and 2ML.
Not even disappointed since these characters are pretty much what was expected watching the first episode.

What? and you want to miss medicine snogging? It's practically a shoe in in every fantasy Cdrama romance.
If you are not having a medicine delivery kissing, then it ain't cdrama.
The fall on each other lips by accident, don't break teeth but breach the mouths with tongues is another top 10 cdrama kissing tropes.

Without these tropes, I refuse to watch Cdramas.

Lets hope so.
So many good cdramas go down the drain due to the love triangle dragging and 2ML literally getting away with murder. Just the dumbness of that trope.

well, i don't mind dumb ML or FL or any other quirks.

As long as you get the basics right.
the FL in these dramas smell right. They could be dumb, boring, smart, etc etc but they look and act like girls.
the ML on other hand smell fake. When I look at them, there is not a single thing about them that convinces me that's a man i am looking at.

Calling it out,

there would few episodes of really cringy love triangle coming our way.
the innocent FL thinking her male bestie is a lamb and all his attention to her is friendly, the ML trying to sort the crap and 2ML happily pushing every boundary and taking advantage of the FL.

When you are in army and in leadership position, the only thinking that should be done is by the brain & not by the organ in mid-section.

ML was brilliant in ep15. Logical, kind, balanced and brutal.
in ep16, he did not make any sense. As leader he failed. If any of his men watched how he put up with the FL tantrums, it would be justified if his own men put a knife in his back.

As a leader he completely lost the plot in ep16.

I found nothing wrong with the FL in this one.
She was normal girl, dated guys, had no problems interacting with people like a regular person etc etc.

It was the ML, he was fake.
written by someone who certainly has zero idea about men. There certainly are no men on this planet ike the ML's in romance Kdramas and Cdramas.
All of them are fakest of fakes written by someone who probably thinks only women have sexual feelings and men fall in love once and never have sexual feelings.

Even in a tin pot Army, the FL would have beheaded the 2ML for what he did, on the spot.
But she is a lieutenant and the guy who betrayed and killed her alliance people does not even get any punishment.

the whole ML apologizing to FL did not make any sense.
Did she apologize for what happened to ML's men? she did not, not even once. Even though it was her people who were directly responsible.

but, the ML grovels as if he caused the death of her friend.
If anyone, it was her who killed her friend. Her incompetency led to the ambush and death.
The betrayal prior to that and her lack of remorse from FL, meant ML was in no position to help her men. Had she said sorry in public and groveled in front of ML and his men, may be there was a case.
but, after learning what her friend did, she just carries on shamelessly, without any thought or remorse.

The writers wrote garbage ep16.
It did not make sense for ML to even suffer a minute of her tantrum. The minute she started her crap, the ML should have shut her down.
If grief gives her some special rights to do crap, it gives the ML special rights as well. he was also grieving loss of his own friends by her friend.

Convinced that who ever is writing these Kdramas and Cdramas have no idea how to write male characters.
It's very clear they have zero idea about men.

These writers should spend few minutes with a man and then may be they can see how fake their ML's are.

She was never his real girl friend.
It was something arranged and the ML went along with it.

the drama does not even show them holding hands, let alone do anything remotely that can be considered to be a relationship.

If anything, FL and her crush had more going on than the ML and his supposed girl friend.

ML's do cringy simping, at times
2ML's do psycho simping. the kind where you wake up in middle of night & find a clown sitting next to your bed and staring at you.

anyway, ML simping at times is not bad.
Always believed men should give way to their women in most of things and pamper them as much as possible. but when it comes to important things, it should never be done. Do the right thing. There are things men can pamper and simp for their woman & there are things they should not.

in Ep15, the ML was spot on.
He did not give in and rush to the save FL's friend. Instead, he cared more for his own men's feelings and only helped the FL. Post that, he did not give in on this point, which was a good thing.
The bad thing was the entire ep16.

yes, one of the better ones out there

That guy has way too much blood.
Wonder what eats to cough so much blood and still look like a model with six pack.

😂 baah..

just love how you state the ML's soldiers who were fighting with him for a long time were not really close to him...but her best friend is close to her.
Anyone who ever served in any army since middle ages can immediately tell how wrong you are.
Soldiers who fight together are like brothers. These guys live and die for each other. There really is no relation outside of real family that comes remotely close.
As her friend was important to her, his men are as equally important to him.

in ep 15, the FL was angry at being treated unjustly, at least in her own eyes, being targeted by the ML. There was not an iota of passiveness from her in ep15. It was confrontational, the tone, the body language and eventually led to fight. Point is, she stood up for what she believed was right. She did not roll over and offer her dignity to ML.
She then learns of what her best friend did and how his actions screwed over ML and his own men.
What does she do? nothing.

LOL @ expecting the ML to help her and her men after getting royally betrayed by them.
You expect ML to ask his men to help those that betrayed them and resulted in their deaths?
He had no obligation to help, especially considering the betrayal. Any leader would do the same. Who knows if his men would be betrayed again.
Even what he did to help FL was bordering on mutiny in his mens eyes.

Rich saying the person who loves you did not help save your friend.
especially knowing that friend screwed your lover and caused his own mens death.
Her mourning is somehow more important than ML's mourning.
her friend betraying the ML and causing his mens deaths are somehow not even an issue but she gets upset that ML would not risk his men to help save her friend.

The ML did not let him die. He did not force them into the situation. He did not ask them to fight. He did nothing. He is NOT their leader. He is leader to his own, who were just betrayed by her and were killed in process.

Leadership does not offer lot of leeway.
FL being a leader is responsible for what her friend did. Worse, even after knowing what he did, she pretends it's all great and rolls with him
but ML should risk his leadership to help people who betrayed him and got his people killed.

There is no hate against the FL.
Just pointing that ML is a spineless simp.
the FL is strong, modern, has clear goals and loves her friends. Clearly they are more important to her than the ML.
the ML just forgot that her team killed his own team members and rolled on his back and offered it to Fl.
nothing to hate about FL really. Even after knowing the shit her friend did, she still did not let him go or discipline him. She still loved him, protected him and even let her rage on ML, even when he was clearly not in fault of his death.
What did the ML do when his own men died? just did bit of sword play and everything is forgotten...

It's the ML that is a wimp.

Lastly, the FL friend betrayed ML and caused his men's death.
He used them and caused their deaths.
If Ml sought him out and killed him, that would have been justified. the FL even then is no position to be angry at ML. he just got revenge for his men.
but the hilarious logic here is that ML should help the guy who caused deaths of his men & the FL is justified in her anger of not helping to save him.

lol, nothing better to do I guess. That's why I keep watching cdramas and kdramas.

All you said is true & because it is true, it is necessary to point these out, even if means doing it in each and every drama.

Interesting you bring out ALP, yes, the ML hurts the FL and as viewers we understand 'why' and can understand the logic behind what he was doing, no matter how futile it was. A desperate act of a man in love. The drama never lets viewers not know how much the ML loves the FL.
The opposite of this is 'Love and redemption'. The FL hurts the ML in that one but it completely makes logical sense due to the way FL is.

Idea is to make the characters consistent and believable.
in this drama or She and her perfect husband, the characters are not consistent.

Well, to be fair, the ML is much much better in this one than in She and her husband,
Until ep16, he held his own and I absolutely liked the drama and still do to some extent but 16 basically brought out the worst cdrama tropes that are character killer.

If we are watching Kdramas and Cdramas, this is the most logical place to be and rant.
Where else can our voice of letting the world know that the writers are on drugs when writing this, be heard?

Ep 15, ML loses his friends due to FL. Even thought it was her friend who is responsible, she being in leadership role has the final responsibility.
How does FL treat the grieving ML who lost his friends? She fights him.
Even after all that the ML keeps an eye and proceeds to saver her.

Ep 16, FL loses her friend. All due to their own making, no fault to ML.
She then proceeds to lash out at ML, who lies down and offers his backside to the FL, even though he was not responsible for the death and even saved her.

Disappointing really.

Disagree completely.

Watch start of Ep15, ML loses his people just like how FL lost her friend in ep16.

Now, how did the start of ep15 go?
Instead of understanding ML is grieving, she ends up fighting him. She then comes to know her friend was behind the whole mess. What does she do? Nothing.
Even when ML was right in being angry at her in Ep15, she still defends herself and fights for herself.

when the exact same thing happens in reverse in ep16, the ML basically prostrates before the FL and becomes a doormat, even though he was no way responsible for her friends death, unlike her being responsible for his mates death in ep15.

If grieving needs understanding, why would the FL not understand it in ep15 when ML was grieving?
And why would the FL never reach out to ML after finding out her childhood friend screwed her and the ML? She should have begged for forgiveness, simply by being in position of leadership.

The two exact scenarios in 2 different episodes are shown exactly opposite. the FL defends herself and her honor in ep15.
the ML lays down and offers his honor to be trampled in ep16.

Her grieving was never the issue.
All the other things she said and did were.

Her lashing out can even considered as part of healing process.

ML's actions though don't make sense. No matter how much one is grieving, there are things that should not be crossed and things that should not be said.
And if some one says hurtful things, it is incumbent upon them to reach out and apologize.
but here, that does not happen. Hence the flow of drama does not make sense - unless the ML is a top tier simp.