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There is something called as STD's.

In older times, their kids would be having kids.

Agreed on best mate going after the girl. This does not even happen in high school. A guy would never go after the girl his best buddy is interested and dated.
It's the same way with girls.
These guys are nearing 40. The idea that a man would go after their best friend's girl is beyond any reasonable thinking.
Exists only in fantasies of writers whose sole interaction with a man came from watching similar dramas.

And in Kdramas and Cdramas, the men, especially ML's never move on from FL. No matter what happens, they always stay extremely loyal to her.
No such restrictions on FL.
This again comes from the fantasies of writers where they want the man to be loyal and dedicated for eternity & the woman is very modern and does not limit herself with silly things like love and loyalty.

Pretty normal in Cdramas.

Completely agree,
ML is a useless impotent wimpy simp.
The guy did not even try to move on after the break up for 8 years.

If the FL 6th boyfriend did not screw her, she would not even be back and the ML would be 90 years old and eternally waiting for the FL's husband to die so that he can finally make another move on her. Most importantly he would not have looked at another woman and kept himself very very pure for the FL.

FL's will always pretend not to know that 2ML is love with them and also pretend the excessive touching and interactions are friendly and brotherly in nature.

At least that's how the writers want us to believe.

What are you talking about?

The harem is just starting.

Kdrama formulae, get as many men touch FL, especially hot men.

While ML will not even make eye contact with any woman, his eyes will become impure if he does that as per Kdrama writers.

Writers got one thing right though.
2ML likes FL and the reason why he is giving that kind of attention to her.
They are spot on that only men who are interested in a woman would give that kind of attention to her. Men who are just friends never ever give that ind of attention to a woman.
The writers got that part spot on for a change.

Just on looks, Chang Wook is would be much more desirable to woman than Hye Sun to men.
She is pretty and beautiful but Chang Wook is insanely good looking

Anyone else surprised by the love triangle?

You could see this coming in the first minute of the first episode.
yet another guy who joined the simp squad for the FL.

When was the last romance Kdrama without multiple guys for the FL?
This one has a whole baseball team for the FL.

To be honest, I still don't really understand why the ML was trying to say sorry to the FL for 10 episodes in 'I may love you'.

Even if we over-look the sexual assault by FL, him going through the hoops and desperately and repeatedly saying sorry to FL for him taking interest in another girl did not make a god damn sense.

It may be a cultural thing where a chinese man is by default at fault for imaginary things....really scratching my head around that whole thing.

The ones that seem to be obsessed in not giving ML any life are the writers.

In drama, if they don't show or talk about it or imply, it never happened.
If the drama takes time to let viewers know about FL's relationships, it can take 15 seconds to talk about ML's as well. On contrary, we are told exactly what he was NOT doing.

Yes, there are FL who wait for the ML but there is literally zero ML's who are dating multiple woman while the FL is waiting for him.
The opposite is shown just in this drama but where it;s the FL waiting dutifully for the man and the ML having multiple relationships, never happened in Kdrama, at least in last 3 years.

I am only pointing at the fact that the writers are obsessed with keeping ML pure and simpy for the FL in Kdramas.

If I was not clear, my apologies. Hopefully my post made it clear that it was never any specific kind of men but more a generic man, a normal man.

a woman is definitely a woman even if she does not have her periods. Most definitely agree. BUT A woman is one who can have periods, she is supposed to have periods. If she is not having her periods, something went terribly wrong with that poor woman.
It's similar to humans having 2 eyes, 2 legs and 2 hands. If some one has 1 eye, 1 leg or 1 hand, they most definitely are human but you immediately know something went terribly wrong with that person.

Not sure if you are implying that something went terribly wrong for most Kdrama ML's to be this bad.

touche..

You are always free to stop responding to my posts.
I don't remember holding a gun to your head or others heads and demand an answer to my post.

Instead of asking me to stop the conversation, just stop responding.

Just tired of people giving me suggestions and doing analysis on me.

Just stick to the analysis on the dramas, the writers and characters in the drama...jeesus, is it that tough?!

Lastly, I do respect other's choices.
but this is a place to have discussions like I am trying to have. While I do respect other's choices, some don't seem to like my right to freely post my opinions here.

If you feel offended by my posts about how the male lead suck in these dramas, my apologies, sincerely.
My intent was to only start and have a discussion and nothing more.

I like to see variety,

Don't really mind these ML's now and then in romcoms where the only aim is to have a drama full of fluff. Those dramas can be cleanser of your mind, only if these dramas are rare, like 1 or 2 in a year.

but damn, the ML's in each and every Cdrama and Kdramas have turned into impotent virgin monks.

The writers should seriously start giving us some variety.

Now I understand why these writers are making these ML's as simpy impotent losers.

It all makes sense.

Btw, no one is talking about the ML needing to be rude or needing to take revenge or do something nasty to anyone.

ML is not figuring out his life, he is basically doing nothing for 8 years while the FL was doing very well in her career and multiple relationships.
He was just waiting like a simp.

And if you prefer a ML who is deeply in love and waiting on the FL forever and ever and ever, why is it that in these dramas, it is always ML doing the waiting?
Sorry, it's not one or two things about the 'male lead' that is wrong, it's everything.
if you really think a man would not even look at another woman for 8 years, no matter how deeply in love he was with another woman...it's so fake.
And why would ML having his relationships with other women make him less worthy for FL?

is FL less worthy for ML and does not deserve him because she dated half a dozen guys?

What a regressive thinking!

There are only two kinds of men in the world, domesticated and others.
The ones domesticated don't shag other woman because they love the woman they are with, NOT because they are not attracted to other women. The non-domesticated ones are always thinking about sex. If anyone says otherwise, they are just talking shit.

It's so cringe that people are even defending the writers writing such fake male lead.
he was just doing nothing for 8 years, not even a women in his sight. even typing this shit is making me cringe...and people actually want to say, it's realistic and there are men like that. No there are not. may be in fantasies of writers who want these kinds of pure virgin men while they are themselves shagging multiple men.

I guess you would not have liked the drama if it was the FL waiting, deeply in love with ML, not even glancing at another man, while the ML was dating half a dozen other women. Oh, he would be still be in love with the FL, he is just trying to move on, sadly shagging other women to get over FL.
Let me know how that storyline sounds? And why no Kdrama was evre made with this story line?

I said man, if I wanted to say 'alpha big boy', I would have said so.

an alpha big boy, a nerd, a sportsman, a physically handicapped man, a man with mental issues etc etc all have very basic biological qualities, just like all women have.

imagine if someone starts making kdramas where most FL's have their first period after meeting and falling in love with ML. Until then, no matter their age, they never have a period, until the ML comes. And more importantly, if thatML breaks up with her life, the FL stops having periods until that same ML comes back into her life.
it would very weird if some one starts making a whole lot of dramas with a FL like that.
Pretty sure, i would not call them as woman, if that ever happens.

You got a point.

we should keep pretending that the Male leads are actually men, when they clearly aren't.
Or these writers can do a Gender reveal of their male leads. May be it's a completely new gender....it;s the fashion now a days anyway to invent genders.
These drama writers may be on to something..

Go to any school or university anywhere in the world.
Just observe the boys and men there for 15 mins, you will get the answer.

Also, you know exactly what I mean, anyway. 😏

My demon - it's pretty much implied FL dated. In first 10 mins of first episode she asks ML if he was some she dated before. Also, she has a 2ML who is like her shadow, he is everywhere.
The male lead never even had a female dog in his house for 200+ years

TSOPMC - yes, FL does not, neither does the ML. In fact, the ML like almost all other ML's does not even a have another woman with in 100 miles

My man is Cupid - The ML only shows interest, they don't date or anything. Then for god knows how many centuries the ML again does not even another woman with in 100 miles. The FL on other hand had numerous exes, we can ho into symantics but the fact is it's only the FL who has multiple relationships

Welcome to Samdal - This is one garbage romance at a new level. The ML has only ever loved the FL. no other woman 100 miles radius.
The FL dated half a dozen men & now there is a love triangle with ML and his friend trying to woo FL...It's pretty much raining virgin men for the FL in this drama.

Destined with you - FL pretty much has an orgasm when sees 2ML. You can literally count a dozen orgasms she has on screen when 2ML is near her. the ML is a sus, virgin cold CEO who seems to have serious impotency, rather than the terminal illness he is supposed to have.

What is the common denominator in all these dramas?
The ML never ever dates any woman. There is not a single other woman 100 miles radius og ML.
The FL comes in many varieties, some like ML who have never dated, may have dated multiple men. Many show interest in multiple men, some have shagged multiple men. but all of them have multiple men in their life.

While the ML is a raging virgin and the FL is only the woman ever in his life,
the FL comes in different variety.

I bet you can't name a drama where the FL only ever loved the ML and waiting for him for decades while the ML dates and shags multiple women and then has a love triangle with FL and her sister/bestie
This is basically 'welcome to Samdal' with gender swapped. Name one kdrama like this in last 5 years.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing when facts stare in our face.
While there would an odd ML in kdrama that is written differntly, 9 out of 10 kdrama pretty much have ML who are pure, virgin and only ever loved and dated the FL...
in 9 out of 10 kdramas, the FL has other men, if not dating, she would at least be sexually attracted to 2ML or other men before settling with ML.

not masculine but attributes that are most basic to man, at biological level.

except for the way they dress, there is nothing that tells you that the person on screen is a man.
He is a completely new gender invented for kdrama and Cdrama purposes.