Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
Ok, out of morbid curiosity, I went to check out your MDL watchlist more carefully.
My goodness, aside from the fact that your highest rated dramas are mostly Thai BL dramas, among two of your most highly rated are Cutie Pie I & II. (Apparently, Cutie Pie is such a cinematic masterpiece that the Thai entertainment industry felt compelled to make a sequel! Are you on the waiting list for Part 3, by any chance?)
Let's be honest here. Maybe you're fooling yourself (& your fellow snowflakes), but you're not fooling me. From the start, I had trouble taking you seriously, but I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were arguing in good faith.
But despite your high falutin' virtue-signaling talk, you couldn't give a rat's a$$ about respecting persons who identify as gay (or lesbian), let alone treating them with dignity. All your woke-speak is just a not-so-subtle cover for you to express your unrighteously indignant anger & frustration that the Chinese government won't appeal to your lowest common denominator & basest instincts. Basically, you're just pi$$ed that China rightfully refuses to expand your global soft gay p0rn entertainment options.
Feel free to keep attacking my moral character. At least I'm not a holier-than-thou liar & a hypocritical fraud, no matter what political stripe you label me as wearing.
Although the first two are probably in the top 5, it doesn't make my top 3.
"Is it a happy/sad ending?" is one of the other two I was thinking about.
I wonder if it ever occurs to the people asking this question that "happy" & "sad" are subjective as well as relative terms. That so-call "open" endings are distinctly possible.
Observe that rarely, if ever, does any MDLer ask whether the ending is logical (or not). This silence (not to mention indifference) speaks volumes, so to speak (pun intended).
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
Your MDL screenname suggests that you can't even be remotely neutral & objective in your stance. Your watchlist of Thai BL dramas only confirms your inherent (possibly subconscious or even unconscious) bias.
The Chinese government couldn't hold a candle to the sexually erotic Thai BL dramas when it comes to dehumanizing gay men by objectifying & "Orientalizing" (exoticizing) them even if it tried.
But so long as your Asian "rice queen" fetish gets satisfied, no?
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
False. I hate Fox News.*
I hate extremist views, from either the left or the right.
Thanks for "othering" me though. I also hate to be lumped together with virtue-signaling SJWs, which I used to be in high school & college.
The real world disabused me of my illusions & delusions real fast. You should also touch grass once in a while. I don't do it enough because I waste time humoring (usually pampered & privileged) snowflakes on MDL.
*Oh, by the way, when was the last time you heard a Fox News "analyst" use any or all of the following terms: cultural imperialism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, etc. that I've brought up? If you have, then who's the one being spoon-fed Fox News again?
This is just one of the three most annoyingly repetitive & redundant questions in the C-drama MDL comments sections. Can you (or anyone else) name the other two?
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
Thanks! I'm actually deriving some amusement & pleasure from all these virtue-signaling snowflakes downvoting me to oblivion.
How dare China cancel BL entertainment content? I know no Chinese except for a couple of words & phrases that I teased out from watching C-dramas. I've never actually step foot in China, but most of the C-dramas I watch take place in China, so that's kind of the same thing, isn't it?
Chinese government censorship couldn't hold a candle to the culture-canceling woke agenda.
Basically the modus operandi of these brainwashed "woke-a$$e$ is: be tolerant, except for things you don't agree with, in which case, intolerance is perfectly fine.
If they spent less time regurgitating their indoctrinated nonsense & canceling anyone who doesn't buy their propaganda and more time actually practicing the open-mindedness they preach, the world would be a much better (or at least less annoying & insufferable) place.
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
Sigh. My goodness, I am not defending homophobia or any phobia, for that matter. In fact, I went out of my way to criticize the xenophobia I've seen on MDL.
If you actually took the time & effort to understand, or even read what I'm saying instead of what you think I'm saying, you'll see my argument is fairly straightforward. I am arguing for a general principle & using the particular example of C-ent policy re: BL content as a single case study to make my bigger point.
The point is that paternalism, which I define as the restriction of privileges for certain demographic groups for the sake of collective welfare may be justified in certain circumstances. Note I am intentionally not talking about rights here because this would be a stronger claim that would require stronger evidence & support. Not to mention, no group or persons within a group have the basic & innate ("inalienable") right to be represented on TV. If you feel otherwise, by all means, explain what would be the fundamental basis for such a "right?"
Now, of course, you could have problems with my argument for paternalism, but to call me a "homophobe" just because I suggest that the BL policies may not necessarily be irrational (maybe not even ill-advised) tells me you're reading more than what's there, not to mention making unwarranted assumptions about me & my moral character just because you've been indoctrinated with contemporary liberal Western ("woke") propaganda that tells you anything less than waving a rainbow won't do.
Ironically, you don't hesitate for a moment to condemn China for canceling BL entertainment content (without having even an iota of an idea about the thought process behind the policy recommendations). It's hypersensitive & overreactive, "woke" & virtue-signaling snowflakes like you & your kind that are first in line to trash anybody & any entity that cancel things that you want, but at the same time, have no problems canceling things or people that you don't like.
This holier-than-thou hypocrisy of the highest order is what has led to our current, sorry state of cancel culture. It's what made a martyr of someone like Charlie Kirk who, by the way, IS a true & diehard homophobe.
But feel free to keep accusing me of being a "homophobe" like Kirk. Talk about your "false symmetries!"
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
Not really.
Your argument is: why ban something (watch BL) if people are going to do it (watch BL) anyway?
I gave you various (counter)examples of things that are banned despite the fact that people do it anyway. And there's plenty more where that came from.
Not only isn't this "false symmetry," but also it's about as perfect an analogy as an analogy can get.
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
If you don't know or understand the rationale behind the Chinese entertainment industry policy recommendations, start by learning Chinese so you can read the relevant documentation in its original Chinese (instead of regurgitating gossip, rumor, & speculation you've heard on Western social media).
Then study Chinese history, culture & philosophy so that you can get proper context regarding what you've read in its original Chinese. Then maybe I'll consider discussing this issue with you, but only if you ask nicely & politely!
Nope. This is a wuxia drama with straight romance as side stories. The ML has 2nd FL as his love interest. It…
I typed out a lengthy response on my phone, but accidentally deleted the tab.
The gist of what I said is that you seem to see paternalistic government policies to be generally bad, so to the extent that China's communist government is paternalistic, you're going to disagree with what they do. In other words, your premise assumes the conclusion.
I think this is something that is an irreconcilable difference & a natural departure for our conversation.
It'll give me some time to process my thoughts better, but I still don't see how we can get around moral philosophy when discussing public policy because whether or not we subscribe to objective morality determines what we recommend and seek to implement.
Those who point to objective moral standards would prescribe liberal democracies for all governments, regardless of history & circumstances. I envision more pluralistic systems of governments, adapted to the historical cues & contexts from which they emerged.
My goodness, aside from the fact that your highest rated dramas are mostly Thai BL dramas, among two of your most highly rated are Cutie Pie I & II. (Apparently, Cutie Pie is such a cinematic masterpiece that the Thai entertainment industry felt compelled to make a sequel! Are you on the waiting list for Part 3, by any chance?)
Let's be honest here. Maybe you're fooling yourself (& your fellow snowflakes), but you're not fooling me. From the start, I had trouble taking you seriously, but I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were arguing in good faith.
But despite your high falutin' virtue-signaling talk, you couldn't give a rat's a$$ about respecting persons who identify as gay (or lesbian), let alone treating them with dignity. All your woke-speak is just a not-so-subtle cover for you to express your unrighteously indignant anger & frustration that the Chinese government won't appeal to your lowest common denominator & basest instincts. Basically, you're just pi$$ed that China rightfully refuses to expand your global soft gay p0rn entertainment options.
Feel free to keep attacking my moral character. At least I'm not a holier-than-thou liar & a hypocritical fraud, no matter what political stripe you label me as wearing.
You're more likely to hear it from relatively new & inexperienced C-drama audience members (frequently K-drama & K-pop "migrants").
Although the first two are probably in the top 5, it doesn't make my top 3.
"Is it a happy/sad ending?" is one of the other two I was thinking about.
I wonder if it ever occurs to the people asking this question that "happy" & "sad" are subjective as well as relative terms. That so-call "open" endings are distinctly possible.
Observe that rarely, if ever, does any MDLer ask whether the ending is logical (or not). This silence (not to mention indifference) speaks volumes, so to speak (pun intended).
Polly wants a cracker...and got five in a row!
Edit: Six in a row! Can I get seven heaven? Or is that too much to ask?
The Chinese government couldn't hold a candle to the sexually erotic Thai BL dramas when it comes to dehumanizing gay men by objectifying & "Orientalizing" (exoticizing) them even if it tried.
But so long as your Asian "rice queen" fetish gets satisfied, no?
I hate extremist views, from either the left or the right.
Thanks for "othering" me though. I also hate to be lumped together with virtue-signaling SJWs, which I used to be in high school & college.
The real world disabused me of my illusions & delusions real fast. You should also touch grass once in a while. I don't do it enough because I waste time humoring (usually pampered & privileged) snowflakes on MDL.
*Oh, by the way, when was the last time you heard a Fox News "analyst" use any or all of the following terms: cultural imperialism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, etc. that I've brought up? If you have, then who's the one being spoon-fed Fox News again?
Do better. Or at least try harder.
I appreciate your getting "haunted" by my commentary. Why else would you hang onto my every word.
Four consecutive replies to me...in a single hour, no less. I'm deeply flattered.
Can you go for a handful? I could use the ego boost.
Quick quiz:
This is just one of the three most annoyingly repetitive & redundant questions in the C-drama MDL comments sections. Can you (or anyone else) name the other two?
How dare China cancel BL entertainment content? I know no Chinese except for a couple of words & phrases that I teased out from watching C-dramas. I've never actually step foot in China, but most of the C-dramas I watch take place in China, so that's kind of the same thing, isn't it?
Chinese government censorship couldn't hold a candle to the culture-canceling woke agenda.
Basically the modus operandi of these brainwashed "woke-a$$e$ is: be tolerant, except for things you don't agree with, in which case, intolerance is perfectly fine.
If they spent less time regurgitating their indoctrinated nonsense & canceling anyone who doesn't buy their propaganda and more time actually practicing the open-mindedness they preach, the world would be a much better (or at least less annoying & insufferable) place.
If you actually took the time & effort to understand, or even read what I'm saying instead of what you think I'm saying, you'll see my argument is fairly straightforward. I am arguing for a general principle & using the particular example of C-ent policy re: BL content as a single case study to make my bigger point.
The point is that paternalism, which I define as the restriction of privileges for certain demographic groups for the sake of collective welfare may be justified in certain circumstances. Note I am intentionally not talking about rights here because this would be a stronger claim that would require stronger evidence & support. Not to mention, no group or persons within a group have the basic & innate ("inalienable") right to be represented on TV. If you feel otherwise, by all means, explain what would be the fundamental basis for such a "right?"
Now, of course, you could have problems with my argument for paternalism, but to call me a "homophobe" just because I suggest that the BL policies may not necessarily be irrational (maybe not even ill-advised) tells me you're reading more than what's there, not to mention making unwarranted assumptions about me & my moral character just because you've been indoctrinated with contemporary liberal Western ("woke") propaganda that tells you anything less than waving a rainbow won't do.
Ironically, you don't hesitate for a moment to condemn China for canceling BL entertainment content (without having even an iota of an idea about the thought process behind the policy recommendations). It's hypersensitive & overreactive, "woke" & virtue-signaling snowflakes like you & your kind that are first in line to trash anybody & any entity that cancel things that you want, but at the same time, have no problems canceling things or people that you don't like.
This holier-than-thou hypocrisy of the highest order is what has led to our current, sorry state of cancel culture. It's what made a martyr of someone like Charlie Kirk who, by the way, IS a true & diehard homophobe.
But feel free to keep accusing me of being a "homophobe" like Kirk. Talk about your "false symmetries!"
Your argument is: why ban something (watch BL) if people are going to do it (watch BL) anyway?
I gave you various (counter)examples of things that are banned despite the fact that people do it anyway. And there's plenty more where that came from.
Not only isn't this "false symmetry," but also it's about as perfect an analogy as an analogy can get.
speculation you've heard on Western social media).
Then study Chinese history, culture & philosophy so that you can get proper context regarding what you've read in its original Chinese. Then maybe I'll consider discussing this issue with you, but only if you ask nicely & politely!
The gist of what I said is that you seem to see paternalistic government policies to be generally bad, so to the extent that China's communist government is paternalistic, you're going to disagree with what they do. In other words, your premise assumes the conclusion.
I think this is something that is an irreconcilable difference & a natural departure for our conversation.
It'll give me some time to process my thoughts better, but I still don't see how we can get around moral philosophy when discussing public policy because whether or not we subscribe to objective morality determines what we recommend and seek to implement.
Those who point to objective moral standards would prescribe liberal democracies for all governments, regardless of history & circumstances. I envision more pluralistic systems of governments, adapted to the historical cues & contexts from which they emerged.