So does this mean she really DID die in the joseon era and can now not return back and she now only exists in…
I think this needs a spoiler tag!! Also - maybe.
My initial guess/theory is: Transportation (like not just the soul but completely physical bodies)
Given what is showed in Ep 8 when PYW sees flashback while speaking to Cheon Myeong in front of that mossy Virtuous Woman structure in the woods. Not sure if they retrieved her body from the well or not, she must have been AT LEAST declared dead for the virtuous woman structure to be erected and it to be noted in the history books/journal. But we cannot be certain if she is truly dead.
Transportation also because Sa Wol followed suit and reached present Seoul. She was not forced like Yeon Woo, but could have either fallen in the well while checking for Yeon Woo or in sorrow, she did jump after her but does not remember.
In either case - the well and the tree are probably a portal between past and present. But only at a certain time can it be activated (that weird moon phase time). So there is still a chance that these two ladies were on verge of death, but the portal activated and they simply transported through time. Their bodies were not discovered, cause in past one simply believed them to be dead since they fell in a deep well.
Also, why I believe Transportation also holds true cause other characters are definitely reincarnations, as they have other worldly ties. Like stepmom has her own family, backstory of having a hand in killing Tae Ha's mother, marrying his father, having Tae Min. Tae Ha too has other memories - with his mother, grandfather etc. So does Midam owner. They are reincarnations for sure. Sa Wol and Yeon Woo - do not have any such backstories or ties in the present world.
Hence, I believe they transported to Present World. Their bodies are yet to be found in Joseon, where they could be barely alive. So through some magic they transported in their physical forms and therefore can still go back.
Had they been truly dead in Joseon/past and cannot go back - then I cannot find the explanations of how are they here in this present world? Like is it rebirth/reincarnation? If that is the case then it would mean their soul travelled from past to present. But then it needs to be dwelling in a physical body that has some connect in the present which is not told.
I know am being too scientific about it, and the show and writers might play it out in their own way - but the nerd in me just wanted to type it all out 😅 hope it makes some sense tho!
I wish to find Jung Joon Hyeong in real life 😅 This article description of this character, my own interpretation when I watched the drama and Nam Joo Hyuk's portrayal were all great! 💚
Sung Hoon's character in Perfect Marriage Revenge would have made the cut, but agree in Noble My Love he was so meh. Handsome, but red flag 🚩
Yet, to watch the rest to know about them (especially Love Me If You Dare, it has been on my PTW list since too long) - but what an amazingly fun article! It took time as you mentioned, but thank you for not giving up on it @kkdrama ! #arigato
the male lead from hanayori dango/boys over flowers/meteor garden.He is easily my most disliked male lead of all…
I watched them when Asian wave had started (2009-ish) and tbh it was a fever and I loved Gu Jun Pyo (BOF - Korean). But even then I knew if he was real, I don't think I would like that person, but it was the whole vibe and pre-teen me loved it and discussed/crushed hard with my other friends!
But yes, now they will be the reddest of red flags. Even the show because it is one of my first dramas are ranked in range of 6-7, today I might not even watch it and if I do it would not be 2-4 in rating.
Still, I feel they are classics - and if you can, do watch it. Kind of like history of K-dramas, they started the whole magic and hence you would appreciate the dramas of today, more?
I am yet to start this show - this is high on my PTW cause I love Si Wan. But given my love for him, I am not biased and also don't like all his work. But I and I don't think anyone can deny his acting prowess which is the biggest factor for me to see his works, cause he literally lives the character he plays.
So am reading a lot of comments that share that the show is not great. Wanted to know - what is bad, is it the story/acting/direction?
Would really love to know the opinions of those who are watching it. I will still binge it, but I want to set my expectations accordingly. TIA!
Anyone else like Jo Bok Rae and Bae In Hyuk voices and dialogue delivery? BIH - I have been a fan since long, but this is my first drama of Jo Bok Rae and really love his voice too.
While BIH is all serious - but he has a very mellifluous voice. Calm, soothing 💖 And Jo Bok Rae - can do so many variations with his pitch - from serious to comedy, really commendable 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It keeps getting better and better, se young looks really good and young for her age cuz I don’t feel the 6…
I have been seeing (read: crushing on) Bae In Hyuk since a long time but never really googled his age. I thought he must be leagues with actors like Jang Ki Yong, Yoo Seung Ho and idols like Jin, Chanyeol, Suga and in the age range of 29-32 years.
Never did I think he would be April 1998 - 25 year old. Say whaattt? 🫨🫨🫨 Like younger than Jungkook and Cha Eun Woo?
He looks really mature for his age - and that voice and face 💖🫰🏼💖
Girls don't want luxury items as gifts, they want choco pies and curling.
I personally feel the same - the best dates are amusement theme parks/arcade gaming and good food! And if you share desserts - that's the greenest flag 😎
well tbf they alway have English speakers speak like this for some reason. even the fluent and none fluent Koreans…
So I have a friend who is American, living in Korea since a very long time and is now an honorary citizen there. She is invited to SBS/MBC/KBS dramas to be part of the crowd actors/actresses scenes, where Westerners are needed in K-dramas.
I actually asked her this - and she said that it was done on purpose. Also, the actors here may not be full time actors, just like her. Like they might just ask someone to volunteer to deliver a few lines etc., someone can be asked from the same field too - and they read the lines on teleprompter (in that very typical odd accent cause they are asked to speak slowlyyy).
The real reason is unknown - but I can say the same for some Indian characters portrayed in American sitcoms. Kunal Nayyar for example in Big Bang Theory does not speak like Raj in real life, nor do Indians in general speak that way while nodding their head 😅 but that's how the stereotype has been and maybe done even today for comedic effect. 🤣 We can see the difference in shows like Never Have I Ever or other recent shows that are truly diverse.
I think both can either funny, annoying or both - but it is what it is 😂 More than actor's talent, it is probably the demand of the director etc.
I kinda hate what they did with Hae na's character. Its pretty low hanging fruit and unnecessary. The 2nd ML is…
So in terms of even her delulu romance towards Kang Tae Ha, I agree Ha Na is useless. Like there was just one instance (that was shown to us) and maybe more - but that is just a boss being fair/kind/sensible. She totally mis-constructed it in her head and is delulu. But yes, it is completely unnecessary. Like KTH and PYW have other set of issues, that can cause them to break apart. Ha Na is not even an ex- that can cause a rift between the two. So completely useless from that angle.
But I think she will play a role in terms of: 1 - Grandfather's schemes? There is something ongoing for sure. 2 - She just was a catalyst for last Ep 5-6 in the fashion show. Someone needed to ruin it, so that PYW could work and shine even in the face of issues. And in a way become more closer to KTH and Midam owner. 3 - This is my theory, but now that she has lost her footing with Grandfather and KTH, she may join the stepmother in her schemes. Stepmother may lure her by saying she will harm PYW only and not KTH. Ha Na may end up doing something, and in a way harm KTH too.
The second fl in this drama is sa wol and not hana. Can't really say tae min is the SML either. Taeha's secretary/bff…
Yes, I feel the same. Even the pairing is so...and we could have a third pair basis Ep 8.
Kang Tae Ha (ML) - Park Yeon Woo (FL) Secretary Hong (SML) - Sa Wol (SML)
Maybe: Tae Min can be considered TML - currently likes FL but may end up solo, or with Secretary Hong 's sister as she is interested in him. But too early to call her TFL.
Ep 7 & 8 - had a lot of cute moments and revelations about the past and present culprits. But it was a tad bit slow for me. And looks like the next episode will be as well.
Personally I like fast-paced stories (how the initial episodes were and think Mr Queen, Signal etc) so it could differ with others. But last few weeks I have praised this drama too much, and I hope I don't have to eat my own words of praises 🤣 and this drama does not mellow down but finishes on a high note, keeping the suspense and romance high! 🤞🏼
Lovely review! I am seeing this now in 2023 - and for the longest time I felt it was hyped (even the MDL rating is 9.1 atm)
But I gave it a chance and went headfirst and just finished binge-watching. I was left with a bit of mixed feelings and seeing so many reviews with 10 rating left me even more confused, as if I had missed something, Reading your review, am glad that someone else also thinks this is in the 8-rating range.
You are right until Ep 5, it is actually exciting, endearing to see the three boys' bromance/friendship. The later half felt rushed and tad bit confusing, leaving me to ponder why this is a 10/10 drama for so many.
10 for me is perfection, but this one while a massive binge watch as keeps you on the edge and memorable, it has some flaws and again I might think twice for watching Season 2, if it is on similar lines. Thanks again for the great review and sharing your perspective!
Found another one while watching Weak Hero Class 1 - Park Ji Hoon in this drama looks like a younger brother or distant relative of Ahn Hyo-seop... Anyone else think same?
I have questions about Lee Yeon as Baek Seong U (the first case offender). If you have finished the show - please…
1. I know the character is played by the actress who underwent a transformative journey for it. But in the drama wasn't the character Baek Seong U, a guy?
2. At end of episode 10, we see that Kim Hye Soo as Shim Eun Seok is presiding over another case. The defendant is a juvenile that is all tattooed up - and am not sure, but is it Baek Seong U?
Implying that he/she did not change her ways, and got even worse and hence standing for yet another trial?
I have questions about Lee Yeon as Baek Seong U (the first case offender). If you have finished the show - please let me know your thoughts (adding it under spoiler tag first comment)
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My initial guess/theory is: Transportation
(like not just the soul but completely physical bodies)
Given what is showed in Ep 8 when PYW sees flashback while speaking to Cheon Myeong in front of that mossy Virtuous Woman structure in the woods. Not sure if they retrieved her body from the well or not, she must have been AT LEAST declared dead for the virtuous woman structure to be erected and it to be noted in the history books/journal. But we cannot be certain if she is truly dead.
Transportation also because Sa Wol followed suit and reached present Seoul. She was not forced like Yeon Woo, but could have either fallen in the well while checking for Yeon Woo or in sorrow, she did jump after her but does not remember.
In either case - the well and the tree are probably a portal between past and present. But only at a certain time can it be activated (that weird moon phase time). So there is still a chance that these two ladies were on verge of death, but the portal activated and they simply transported through time. Their bodies were not discovered, cause in past one simply believed them to be dead since they fell in a deep well.
Also, why I believe Transportation also holds true cause other characters are definitely reincarnations, as they have other worldly ties. Like stepmom has her own family, backstory of having a hand in killing Tae Ha's mother, marrying his father, having Tae Min. Tae Ha too has other memories - with his mother, grandfather etc. So does Midam owner. They are reincarnations for sure. Sa Wol and Yeon Woo - do not have any such backstories or ties in the present world.
Hence, I believe they transported to Present World.
Their bodies are yet to be found in Joseon, where they could be barely alive. So through some magic they transported in their physical forms and therefore can still go back.
Had they been truly dead in Joseon/past and cannot go back - then I cannot find the explanations of how are they here in this present world?
Like is it rebirth/reincarnation? If that is the case then it would mean their soul travelled from past to present. But then it needs to be dwelling in a physical body that has some connect in the present which is not told.
I know am being too scientific about it, and the show and writers might play it out in their own way - but the nerd in me just wanted to type it all out 😅 hope it makes some sense tho!
Sung Hoon's character in Perfect Marriage Revenge would have made the cut, but agree in Noble My Love he was so meh. Handsome, but red flag 🚩
Yet, to watch the rest to know about them (especially Love Me If You Dare, it has been on my PTW list since too long) - but what an amazingly fun article! It took time as you mentioned, but thank you for not giving up on it @kkdrama ! #arigato
But yes, now they will be the reddest of red flags. Even the show because it is one of my first dramas are ranked in range of 6-7, today I might not even watch it and if I do it would not be 2-4 in rating.
Still, I feel they are classics - and if you can, do watch it.
Kind of like history of K-dramas, they started the whole magic and hence you would appreciate the dramas of today, more?
So am reading a lot of comments that share that the show is not great. Wanted to know - what is bad, is it the story/acting/direction?
Would really love to know the opinions of those who are watching it. I will still binge it, but I want to set my expectations accordingly. TIA!
BIH - I have been a fan since long, but this is my first drama of Jo Bok Rae and really love his voice too.
While BIH is all serious - but he has a very mellifluous voice. Calm, soothing 💖
And Jo Bok Rae - can do so many variations with his pitch - from serious to comedy, really commendable 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Never did I think he would be April 1998 - 25 year old. Say whaattt? 🫨🫨🫨
Like younger than Jungkook and Cha Eun Woo?
He looks really mature for his age - and that voice and face 💖🫰🏼💖
I actually asked her this - and she said that it was done on purpose. Also, the actors here may not be full time actors, just like her. Like they might just ask someone to volunteer to deliver a few lines etc., someone can be asked from the same field too - and they read the lines on teleprompter (in that very typical odd accent cause they are asked to speak slowlyyy).
The real reason is unknown - but I can say the same for some Indian characters portrayed in American sitcoms. Kunal Nayyar for example in Big Bang Theory does not speak like Raj in real life, nor do Indians in general speak that way while nodding their head 😅 but that's how the stereotype has been and maybe done even today for comedic effect. 🤣 We can see the difference in shows like Never Have I Ever or other recent shows that are truly diverse.
I think both can either funny, annoying or both - but it is what it is 😂
More than actor's talent, it is probably the demand of the director etc.
But I think she will play a role in terms of:
1 - Grandfather's schemes? There is something ongoing for sure.
2 - She just was a catalyst for last Ep 5-6 in the fashion show. Someone needed to ruin it, so that PYW could work and shine even in the face of issues. And in a way become more closer to KTH and Midam owner.
3 - This is my theory, but now that she has lost her footing with Grandfather and KTH, she may join the stepmother in her schemes. Stepmother may lure her by saying she will harm PYW only and not KTH. Ha Na may end up doing something, and in a way harm KTH too.
Kang Tae Ha (ML) - Park Yeon Woo (FL)
Secretary Hong (SML) - Sa Wol (SML)
Maybe: Tae Min can be considered TML - currently likes FL but may end up solo, or with Secretary Hong 's sister as she is interested in him. But too early to call her TFL.
The end will give us the winner of who was the most annoying delulu character.
#foodieVSdelulufan
But it was a tad bit slow for me. And looks like the next episode will be as well.
Personally I like fast-paced stories (how the initial episodes were and think Mr Queen, Signal etc) so it could differ with others. But last few weeks I have praised this drama too much, and I hope I don't have to eat my own words of praises 🤣 and this drama does not mellow down but finishes on a high note, keeping the suspense and romance high! 🤞🏼
Why do I feel he is getting typecast.... ☹️
I loved him in Love and Leashes, I hope he gets more roles as a romantic ML 🤞🏼💗
But I gave it a chance and went headfirst and just finished binge-watching. I was left with a bit of mixed feelings and seeing so many reviews with 10 rating left me even more confused, as if I had missed something, Reading your review, am glad that someone else also thinks this is in the 8-rating range.
You are right until Ep 5, it is actually exciting, endearing to see the three boys' bromance/friendship.
The later half felt rushed and tad bit confusing, leaving me to ponder why this is a 10/10 drama for so many.
10 for me is perfection, but this one while a massive binge watch as keeps you on the edge and memorable, it has some flaws and again I might think twice for watching Season 2, if it is on similar lines. Thanks again for the great review and sharing your perspective!
Park Ji Hoon in this drama looks like a younger brother or distant relative of Ahn Hyo-seop...
Anyone else think same?
[Edit] Adding in some pictures for the context. See post: https://kisskh.at/profile/omo-omo-omo/feeds/RoJLAUP
2. At end of episode 10, we see that Kim Hye Soo as Shim Eun Seok is presiding over another case. The defendant is a juvenile that is all tattooed up - and am not sure, but is it Baek Seong U?
Implying that he/she did not change her ways, and got even worse and hence standing for yet another trial?
If you have finished the show - please let me know your thoughts (adding it under spoiler tag first comment)