The same people involved did The Warp Effect, which was the most graphic thing GMMTV has ever produced. So here's…
Pretty graphic. There was simulated sex with thrusting and such. GMMTV was always a fade-to-black company, so I was quite surprised to see a woman's head bobbing in the opening as she went down on New. I'm actually not sure how they got away with what they showed on youtube, but yeah, it was all there. Possibly the brevity of these scenes had something to do with it. There were three m/f scenes in particular that were quite graphic and at least one m/m scene that was rather graphic, plus a bunch of less graphic but still surprising scenes for GMMTV between m/f, m/m, and yes, f/f. The f/f stuff was oddly the least graphic, but they had their moments.
I finally found a source with Benz talking about liking men. I'd heard he was openly gay for a while, but sources are seriously tough sometimes. It also features Oat and some discussion about his boyfriend, all of them being in the closet in the past, etc. so Benz and Oat can both be added. ^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8eVfBYGdQ&ab_channel=FAIRYTELLS%F0%9F%A7%9A%F0%9F%8F%BB
While i agree it was disappointing, I do think that was what he was doing. They were going to meet up.
He was going to the wedding. You can hope they met there, but the show did nothing to indicate that that was what was happening, other than the significance of the date. We don't even get a shot of someone waiting for him or anything. You're welcome to interpret it as them meeting up, but the show makes no effort to actually back that up. I think it's more of an assumption based on years of BL fans having to just imagine happy endings for the guys they were slashing because nothing could be legit gay or happy. I'm okay with an open ending if it's done right, but this was just a flop, like they don't care about the viewers at all. If they were actually meeting, the least they could have done was show him stepping onto the bridge at the end or something significant. Him getting on a plane to Thailand doesn't signify anything beyond him attending Din's sister's wedding.
Like, I'm sorry, that ending was worse than if someone had died. We don't get a final embrace, a kiss, a loving glance. We don't get anything. It just felt tacked on like nothing was resolved. There was so much emphasis on people I didn't care about. Like he couldn't even hold Ken hostage? It was so weird, like their relationship stopped being a thing.
I would have honestly given this a solid 8.0, just based on how much fun it is despite the plot holes and silliness. I was even planning on re-watching this with my best friend. Never mind. Giving it a 6.0 at this point feels generous, unless they release a special episode or something. I'm so disappointed. I just wanted more action BL and they just fucked it up.
Nah man. That ending wasn't it. I know some people want to read into that ambiguous hinting, the seventh day of the seventh month, but there's no guarantee that wasn't just a painful coincidence for him. His reaction didn't seem hopeful, just sad. Then the after credits shot was just pointless. I kept expecting more. I think in the final episode the show forgot it was a BL. It focused way more on het characters and their happy ending, etc. I just think after all that, it has no rewatch value. I actually was enjoying the schlocky, b-movie action stuff. It was a fun series. But the ending was such a let down. They literally don't even interact in the final episode.
Does anyone know the instagram of the actress who plays the prostitute (A16) turned nail technician? I'm guessing she doesn't appear much (or maybe again, after episode 3?) but I liked her so far, and she's not listed on MDL.
Oh my god, I'm so excited to see Lee Ki Taek in this. I loved him and had lots of feelings about him in The Devil Judge, ugh. I didn't know who he was when this was first announced, but I really need this to actually come out.
Damn i was hoping for prem and wad’s relationship to bloom but it never did. 🥹
Honestly, the way it ended I have to wonder if something happened behind the scenes. Their arc seemed to very clearly lean toward them as a secondary couple, then all of a sudden Wad pretty much just vanished from the show. I wonder if something happened with Fluke that prevented them from doing the full storyline.
I highly doubt they're removing them. I haven't seen a single official thing hinting at it, just a lot of fans…
Yeah, I haven't liked how many kiddos have tried to make it all about their BL pairing. That isn't what the show is about. To be fair, shared pairings in the spotlight are pretty common in anything that isn't straight. I do feel bad for people who haven't experienced this with BL and are only having this happen for the first time, because it's frustrating. Even now, BL will have random het couples taking up a bunch of time, like who is this here for? As someone who likes both BL and GL, I like having a BL side, but I do understand that feeling of disappointment when there aren't as many options.
Is this actually going to be R-rated or not really since it’s on GMMTV YouTube? I saw someone saying it was…
The same people involved did The Warp Effect, which was the most graphic thing GMMTV has ever produced. So here's hoping they'll bring some of that spice to Only Friends.
Heard g4 isn’t in there anymore and being switch out with another w|w couple, lemme removed it from my list…
I highly doubt they're removing them. I haven't seen a single official thing hinting at it, just a lot of fans jumping to conclusions. They may have heard the fan backlash about the lack of a secondary GL ship and added in new characters. Or maybe they had intended to all along, as I read that there are three GL pairings in the novel. A second f/f couple would be great. It doesn't mean Gemini and Fourth will be written out. Don't believe all the stuff you read on twitter. Wait for GMMTV to say something before you get upset. They're in the business of making money. It's very unlikely they'd remove a popular ship like GeminiFourth after hyping people up about them being included.
Not every series needs a 12 episode run to tell it's story. Telling a compelling and satisfying story is completely…
I agree, though I do find it odd that several of their supernatural shows are much shorter, while a show about a girl who has two different guys who like her has 18 episodes. Slice of life rarely needs to be that long. But I guess we can just view the shorter stuff as an extended movie and hope for the best.
After their chemistry in The Warp Effect, I really wanted to see Fah and Gigie in a GL together. I think they'd be amazing. I was so sad to hear Gigie left GMMTV though. Now the low chance of that happening is pretty much nil. Still, I hope we see her in some good stuff in the future.
I dunno, at least in the pilot trailer she does seem to be a large source of conflict between them. I can't stand…
Seriously! That's the thing a lot of the people who like to toss around the word "fetish" fail to see. Is BL realistic as a rule? No. Is romance in general realistic as a rule? NO. It's reflective of the genre, and it's heavily case by case. It's like, just because Twilight was an unhealthy m/f romance, does that mean literally anything that has het romance in it is unhealthy and kinky? (Not that the romance industry in general doesn't get its share of hate, given it's a form of media geared toward women and thus must be mocked and scrutinized.)
The genre wars thing makes it even worse and especially pretentious, like people who differentiate between "film" and "movie," lol. Like I get that it's a semantics thing, but it causes confusion and strengthens negative voices when some people insist BL only refers to the pure fluff and the smut, and others use it as a catch all term. I've been a fan of m/m media since BL was the term used for sex-free gay comics. The definition has definitely evolved. I use it as a catch all for Asian media with gay romance in it, but I know some people like to draw a distinction and call the more adult, polished, or complicated/action-packed stuff LGBT rather than BL, but I think that muddies the issue. (Anyway, that's another issue, and I could honestly write a few books worth on these topics, haha.)
Yes, it's been great talking to you! I added you as a friend, not that that really does much on MDL. Or maybe it does, I still haven't gotten used to checking in on feeds, so I have no idea. XD
Oh man, if you're a GramBlack shipper, this is gonna really piss you off, but they're actually end game in the novel. Both twins are bisexual in the novel, and I don't know if Gram was gay or bi. The show took a lot of liberties, and I'm honestly not angry that they didn't make GramBlack a thing, but it was like they crapped all over it too, making them fight over a girl and acting cold toward each other in the end. They made Eugene, who was an awesome character on her own, seem uncomfortable with Gram the whole time, which was SO weird, like why didn't they at least make her seem like she was into him too if they were gonna get together? He ended up seeming so predatory, opportunistic, and manipulative. And the fact that they played with the people who read the novel and knew Gram loves Black, then used that reveal (the note White finds) to trick the audience... It was so strange. Like no one in this audience is going to be pleasantly surprised that you mislead them and forced in a het pairing. I honestly would have been okay with GramEugene if Gram had been in love with Black too. Two friends helping one another heal over the jerk who broke their hearts, and along the way they fall in love? Yes please. I don't like most m/f, but I'd love to see a bisexual guy end up with a woman in a satisfying way like that. But nope, just two straight bros fighting over a girl that neither of them deserves. Eugene needed a better ending.
Anyway, sorry if any of this is incoherent. I'm sleep deprived. But seriously, I just wish we could get some more respect as fans. It's harder as international fans too, because our voices aren't as directly impactful. But there have been some positive changes in the industry in a relatively short amount of time. Maybe there's hope. I have my fingers crossed, at least.
I would have honestly given this a solid 8.0, just based on how much fun it is despite the plot holes and silliness. I was even planning on re-watching this with my best friend. Never mind. Giving it a 6.0 at this point feels generous, unless they release a special episode or something. I'm so disappointed. I just wanted more action BL and they just fucked it up.
The genre wars thing makes it even worse and especially pretentious, like people who differentiate between "film" and "movie," lol. Like I get that it's a semantics thing, but it causes confusion and strengthens negative voices when some people insist BL only refers to the pure fluff and the smut, and others use it as a catch all term. I've been a fan of m/m media since BL was the term used for sex-free gay comics. The definition has definitely evolved. I use it as a catch all for Asian media with gay romance in it, but I know some people like to draw a distinction and call the more adult, polished, or complicated/action-packed stuff LGBT rather than BL, but I think that muddies the issue. (Anyway, that's another issue, and I could honestly write a few books worth on these topics, haha.)
Yes, it's been great talking to you! I added you as a friend, not that that really does much on MDL. Or maybe it does, I still haven't gotten used to checking in on feeds, so I have no idea. XD
Oh man, if you're a GramBlack shipper, this is gonna really piss you off, but they're actually end game in the novel. Both twins are bisexual in the novel, and I don't know if Gram was gay or bi. The show took a lot of liberties, and I'm honestly not angry that they didn't make GramBlack a thing, but it was like they crapped all over it too, making them fight over a girl and acting cold toward each other in the end. They made Eugene, who was an awesome character on her own, seem uncomfortable with Gram the whole time, which was SO weird, like why didn't they at least make her seem like she was into him too if they were gonna get together? He ended up seeming so predatory, opportunistic, and manipulative. And the fact that they played with the people who read the novel and knew Gram loves Black, then used that reveal (the note White finds) to trick the audience... It was so strange. Like no one in this audience is going to be pleasantly surprised that you mislead them and forced in a het pairing. I honestly would have been okay with GramEugene if Gram had been in love with Black too. Two friends helping one another heal over the jerk who broke their hearts, and along the way they fall in love? Yes please. I don't like most m/f, but I'd love to see a bisexual guy end up with a woman in a satisfying way like that. But nope, just two straight bros fighting over a girl that neither of them deserves. Eugene needed a better ending.
Anyway, sorry if any of this is incoherent. I'm sleep deprived. But seriously, I just wish we could get some more respect as fans. It's harder as international fans too, because our voices aren't as directly impactful. But there have been some positive changes in the industry in a relatively short amount of time. Maybe there's hope. I have my fingers crossed, at least.