Yi-Chen's little brother can die with the mom. IDGAF, I said what I said, him and the mom are such selfish pieces…
The timing on the unveiling of their relationship was rushed. The mom would have had the health issues regardless. The brother was being circumspect about his relationship because he knew his mom wasn't ready to accept a M/M relationship. The whole thing at the hospital was chaotic and volatile. Probably a good idea to remember that all the 4 male leads or at least the Yi Chens and Lu Feng are only in their early 20's. How many people in their early 20's make calm wise decisions regularly when it comes to passionate situations?
that's life. fiction or otherwise. they will get back together after 21 years
I couldn't find an official novel on a free online account. However, if you contact [email protected] you can purchase all 3 volumes of the English translation.
I've only read through chapter 3 of volume 1. It's already added more depth to the characters and a better understanding of their developing relationship.
I hate that they’re probably going to run with the narrative that Lu Feng pushed Yichen, when it was Yichen…
I can see both of their viewpoints. But I do agree Lu Feng is being denigrated unfairly. Both Yi Chens could have handled things better as well. It's a difficult complex situation. I feel compassion for both Lu Feng and Yi Chen. Their non-traditional relationship isn't accepted by either family. Lu Feng is willing to sacrifice everything, but Yi Chen feels an obligation to not disappoint his mother since she insists one of her sons be "normal".😢😣
I admit I did look at the ML's real age. Lu Feng is more sophisticated looking and YeChan is cute...smaller and more delicate yet manly not effeminate. YeChan is intense in his own way with a lot of internal complexity. I liked how Lu Feng was portraying an urban well put together businessman and then in the next scene pouting or grimacing with frustration. ( He's only suppose to be 24 not 40🤪) I'm glad this is a Taiwanese production not Chinese. The kisses are passionate and the emotions are raw.
I've enjoyed the first 5 episodes. The characters are complex which makes for some messed up interactions sometimes. I love how Lu Feng falls for YeChan at first sight and keeps pursuing him until he falls as deeply. I stopped at episode 6 because I'm trying to prepare my heart for extreme shredding.
The negative comments are disingenuous. I'm not justifying nonconsensual intimate interactions...at all. This is fiction, but come on now? Is real life always perfect? Neither of the characters have had sex but yet Lu Feng has this consuming desire and love for YeChan. YeChan is young and confused. He's trying to accept he's attracted to a man and genuinely likes him and thinks he's a great person. He's confronting his emerging feelings, social stigma about homosexuality and losing his family's devotion. That's complex in anyone's book.
Let's put a different twist on this dark romance. In reality not fiction...how many wives have submitted reluctantly to their husbands advances even when they are not in tune with their husbands desires just to keep them happy. Is it right? Is it grape? Is it perfect?
Also, Lu Feng's father abusing him frequently with a frigging bat! That extreme manipulation and abuse hasn't even been commented about. From what I've been able to deduce that kind of parental abuse is actually somewhat accepted in the Asian cultures. Frankly if somebody's going to hit me with something that looks like a bat, I'm going to put their axx on the floor! As a child the power dynamics don't support retaliation, but as a grown man allowing another man to do that seems unrealistic. Yet again and again in several of the Asian dramas this is a reoccurring theme for parents to do this to their children even as adults. Does this kind of abuse make the story unacceptable?
In reality if adult situations came tied with a nice little bow and dripped sugar, wouldn't life be less complicated? Whether in fiction or life sometimes the push and pull of right and wrong and healthy and unhealthy makes situations that have to be confronted and worked through or walked away from.
So glad the courts are pursuing and conflicting this criminal and atrocious behavior. Hats off to Wang Yibo for being proactive!
I will forever grieve that Lee Sun Kyun 's situation was handled so poorly by the police, his agency and the social media. What happened to him was tragic!!!
I'm seriously looking forward to this. I don't know what happened between Net and his former partner, but I really feel like Net did an excellent job in Bed Friends. I think he got unfairly shunted to a back burner because their relationship dissolved. I hope this new pairing has good chemistry and staying power.
crazy take. Jira wasn't even suppose to be there! Pheem just wanted to deal with his feelings on his own. You…
I'm sorry I'm not really understanding your question. Personally I feel it's important to acknowledge another's opinion as valid even if you disagree with his/her opinion. That's respect. It's wrong to physically attack someone except in self defense or in a sport which requires it or war.
I've known several abused people and have personally lived in a verbally abusive marriage for years. I have an intense repugnance for abusive people. From my experience abusers don't usually feel any real accountability for their abuse because they usually have an entitled attitude. Their erroneous attitudes does not justify the abuse.
I think Pheem's going to a rage room was a healthy way to handle his pent up frustration and anger. He didn't invite Jira to witness his behavior or participate in it. Jira staying to hear his anger expressed was either brave and determined or poor judgement.
All 3 main characters seem to have some questionable values and perspectives. I think it makes for messy relationships, but then relationships aren't all "cinderella" ones in reality anyway. They involve conflicts, compromises and hopefully honest reflections on a person's thoughts and behaviors. This is philosophical on my part. But, I'm enjoying seeing how this story plays out.
You mentioned that a woman expressing rage is socially taboo. You definitely have that right. I live in the southern part of the United States. Girls here are taught to be differential and to express opposing opinions in a soft non- confrontational manner. Most men in our area can't handle a woman who flat out bluntly expresses an opinion or offers genuine and justified opposition. It's a real double standard. Anger from a woman is viewed as invalid and overly emotional, but a man is entitled to strong opinions and can openly express his anger with impunity. It really sucks!
In episode 8 Koh becomes more 3 dimensional. He displays more vulnerability. Jira has been attracted to him from the beginning and had openly agreed he's a red flag.
Pheem has his sweet and vulnerable moments. However, he's a little confusing. His intentions seem 2 fold: 1. He wants Jira and is willing to financially support him. 2. He told his roommate that it's his turn to mess with Jira's emotions.
Jira seems to be straddling the fence with his loyalties. That attitude seems dishonest.
crazy take. Jira wasn't even suppose to be there! Pheem just wanted to deal with his feelings on his own. You…
I can understand what you're saying. Practicing self discipline and controlling rage is important. When you're angry and you scream flying into a tantrum, it increases rage and causes the person you're angry at to escalate their behaviors. But when you're in a passive role with no outlet for your anger, a good screaming session in your empty car is therapeutic. Frankly bashing a lot of objects in a "rage room" seems appealing. Destroying your own stuff or someone else's is unproductive and self defeating.
On a different note: does it really de-escalate an abusive person's stress? An abusive person doesn't need an excuse to hit someone or verbally attack someone. They don't think anything they do is wrong anyway.
The whole thing at the hospital was chaotic and volatile. Probably a good idea to remember that all the 4 male leads or at least the Yi Chens and Lu Feng are only in their early 20's. How many people in their early 20's make calm wise decisions regularly when it comes to passionate situations?
I've only read through chapter 3 of volume 1. It's already added more depth to the characters and a better understanding of their developing relationship.
I love how Lu Feng falls for YeChan at first sight and keeps pursuing him until he falls as deeply. I stopped at episode 6 because I'm trying to prepare my heart for extreme shredding.
The negative comments are disingenuous. I'm not justifying nonconsensual intimate interactions...at all. This is fiction, but come on now? Is real life always perfect? Neither of the characters have had sex but yet Lu Feng has this consuming desire and love for YeChan. YeChan is young and confused. He's trying to accept he's attracted to a man and genuinely likes him and thinks he's a great person. He's confronting his emerging feelings, social stigma about homosexuality and losing his family's devotion. That's complex in anyone's book.
Let's put a different twist on this dark romance. In reality not fiction...how many wives have submitted reluctantly to their husbands advances even when they are not in tune with their husbands desires just to keep them happy. Is it right? Is it grape? Is it perfect?
Also, Lu Feng's father abusing him frequently with a frigging bat! That extreme manipulation and abuse hasn't even been commented about. From what I've been able to deduce that kind of parental abuse is actually somewhat accepted in the Asian cultures. Frankly if somebody's going to hit me with something that looks like a bat, I'm going to put their axx on the floor! As a child the power dynamics don't support retaliation, but as a grown man allowing another man to do that seems unrealistic. Yet again and again in several of the Asian dramas this is a reoccurring theme for parents to do this to their children even as adults. Does this kind of abuse make the story unacceptable?
In reality if adult situations came tied with a nice little bow and dripped sugar, wouldn't life be less complicated? Whether in fiction or life sometimes the push and pull of right and wrong and healthy and unhealthy makes situations that have to be confronted and worked through or walked away from.
I will forever grieve that Lee Sun Kyun 's situation was handled so poorly by the police, his agency and the social media. What happened to him was tragic!!!
I've known several abused people and have personally lived in a verbally abusive marriage for years. I have an intense repugnance for abusive people. From my experience abusers don't usually feel any real accountability for their abuse because they usually have an entitled attitude. Their erroneous attitudes does not justify the abuse.
I think Pheem's going to a rage room was a healthy way to handle his pent up frustration and anger. He didn't invite Jira to witness his behavior or participate in it. Jira staying to hear his anger expressed was either brave and determined or poor judgement.
All 3 main characters seem to have some questionable values and perspectives. I think it makes for messy relationships, but then relationships aren't all "cinderella" ones in reality anyway. They involve conflicts, compromises and hopefully honest reflections on a person's thoughts and behaviors. This is philosophical on my part. But, I'm enjoying seeing how this story plays out.
You mentioned that a woman expressing rage is socially taboo. You definitely have that right. I live in the southern part of the United States. Girls here are taught to be differential and to express opposing opinions in a soft non- confrontational manner. Most men in our area can't handle a woman who flat out bluntly expresses an opinion or offers genuine and justified opposition. It's a real double standard. Anger from a woman is viewed as invalid and overly emotional, but a man is entitled to strong opinions and can openly express his anger with impunity. It really sucks!
Pheem has his sweet and vulnerable moments. However, he's a little confusing. His intentions seem 2 fold: 1. He wants Jira and is willing to financially support him. 2. He told his roommate that it's his turn to mess with Jira's emotions.
Jira seems to be straddling the fence with his loyalties. That attitude seems dishonest.
increases rage and causes the person you're angry at to escalate their behaviors. But when you're in a passive role with no outlet for your anger, a good screaming session in your empty car is therapeutic. Frankly bashing a lot of objects in a "rage room" seems appealing. Destroying your own stuff or someone else's is unproductive and self defeating.
On a different note: does it really de-escalate an abusive person's stress? An abusive person doesn't need an excuse to hit someone or verbally attack someone. They don't think anything they do is wrong anyway.