I am at Ep 9. Why bother find the accomplice? The case was almost 18 years. What if the accomplice is already…
people think the accomplice is the ML and he was aware of his father's crimes.. one of the main reason is to clear his name.. then its the duty of the police to find any culprit regardless of how old the crime is esp when similar cases are happening..
I am talking about the coversation he had with his daughter at the restaurant after he made her apologize to her classmates.. I don't remember the ep no.. This scene and ep 16 are two different scenes..
He admitted to jiwon that he was being manipulative in ep 16 and he also admitted to his daughter on why he made her say sorry and even told her that next time if she does something wrong nobody will doubt her..
he was being manipulative in both the scenes.. he said he forgave the man only to make him feel more guilty and confess the truth.. he didnt had any consideration towards that guy.. he manipulated to get what he wants.. thats why ji won had it enough and decided to end it with him coz only he can tell whether he is lying or being sincere.. he didnt made his daughter apologize coz he didnt want to create bigger issues b/w the parents.. he did that so that his daughter wont be suspected again when the toy disappears.. after that he took the toy and dumped it.. this time no one will question or doubt his daughter for the disappearance of the toy.. he was teaching a 6 yr old child to be maniplative.. thats very twisted.. also kids fight and the other kid is also just a 6 yr old and taking away her toy was not a cool move.. he did that as a revenge and someone with a normal mind wont do such things to another child..
the last 2 episodes didnt add up to the initial episodes and i dont feel satisfied after watching it like other suspense thrillers.. they could have easily shown jea han exposing the bad guys and the trio has a happy ending.. it kind of dragged a little in b/w.. it should have been 12-14 episodes instead of 16..
she clearly is a good and responsible mother and knows her daughter very well.. thats the reason why she stood up when her daughter was wrongly accused by the mother of the other child.. she also taught her daughter to be good and straightforward and didnt tell her to apologize when she is not at fault.. she didnt even once doubted her daughter could be wrong because she knows her daughter isnt capable of lying or doing something like she is accused of.. ji won also taught her daughter to respect and love her grandparents even though they never respected her or accepted the daughter.. she clearly spends enough time with her to know about her daughter and teaches her good morals..
hyunsoo loves and takes care of the daughter more but he clearly isnt the good influence she needs in her life because he was teaching her to be manipulative.. he forced her to apologize to the mother and classmate only coz if his daughter does something wrong the next time no one will question her and he even taught her that.. he dont care if his daughter does something bad, he was teaching her to get away with it.. he even took the toy of the other child and dumped it.. the other child is also just a child.. it was her mother that was being problematic.. ji won saw 2 children fighting as something normal whereas hyunsoo and the other mother took it personally and got themselves involved in it.. ji won clearly was a better parent out of the 3.. the other mother is shown as a housewife and she clearly isn't a better mother than jiwon.. so being with your kid 24x7 isn't a criteria for being a better parent.. its the values and teaching that you insert in them that matters and jiwon clearly knows how to do it..
hyunsoo at the start clearly wasn't capable of teaching her to differentiate good and bad because he himself wasn't aware of it.. so its obvious that all this was taught by jiwon and her mother..
a lot of fathers miss the first word or first steps of their children.. will their parenting skills be at question just because they missed all of that? why is ji won's parenting skills being questioned just because she isn't as involved in the daily activities of her daughter?
All this hype in the comments ... And people saying u should pay attention to detail? Well yeah, I'm paying goood…
i hope you will be an epitome of forgiveness and grace when you find out that your husband and father of your child has been lying and manipulating you for 14 yrs and said never loved you even for a second and is also a murder suspect with a serial killer father..
will you still do all of that if your husband is perfectly capable of doing all that like hyungso? you clearly have to do all that because you yourself said your husband is not perfect at it and its tiresome to handle both.. you will let him handle the kid if he did everything perfectly esp if your work keeps you busy like jiwon.. she is a detective in the crime department and has to work around the clock.. she isnt an office employee with a 9 to 5 job where she can wake up at a fixed time and go to bed at a fixed time.. the father has equal responsibility towards the child and if he is willingly doing all that, then why should jiwon do it? its not that jiwon let him do it, he does it on his own and its also not like she has no attachment towards her child.. the daughter loves her a lot and thats why she excluded her father from her drawings and she never rebelled with her mother to meet her father even though she knew he didnt go for vacation.. she was a good mother and thats why the daughter chose to trust her even though she is more attached to her father.. cooking food, cleaning up the house and bed the kid is not the only criteria to be a good mother or a good wife.. if so then what is the criteria to be a good father or a good husband? you need to think out of the patriarchal norms set by people.. will do hyung so be called a bad father if he was the one who has to work around the clock?
you are not extremely critical about drama, you are extremely critical about working women.. i am pretty sure no one would have questioned the absence of one parent in the day today life of a child if it was the father.. even though she wasnt there to take the daughter to the school or make her food, she clearly taught her good things.. she tried hard to make her daughter love her in-laws even though they were terrible to her and the daughter.. just because the man did what normally a woman does for their child doesnt mean the woman is a bad mother or bad wife.. it just means the husband knows what gender equality means.. he dont think doing house-hold things as something only women can do and she dont think force her husband to have a 9 to 5 job and let him pursue his hobby.. if the child didnt love her mother, she wouldnt have been considerate towards her and kept out her father who she loves the most from her drawing just so her mother wont cry..
she blindly trusted her husband for 14 long years and she comes to know he has been lying, manipulating and forged his identity for 14 yrs.. she handled all of that really well. did you forget the fact that he is a suspect to a murder and has psychological issues, on top of that she heard him saying he never loved her.. anyone with a brain wont try to provoke a person with psychological issues by directly confronting him and she had the brain.. even after the betrayal she gave him a benefit of doubt and didnt go by the evidences that proved him to be a killer.. she tried to find out the truth about him.. the least she could do is show her pend up frustration and she has every right to be angry with him..
just because he was perfect at looking after the daughter and doing the house-hold doesnt compensate for the fact that everything about him was a lie, starting from his name and family. forget married woman, will any woman handle the fact that the guy she loved lied about himself from the start? she still chose to trust his good behavior towards her and their daughter above the pile of lies he has said to her..
for someone who is so critical about dramas they watch you seems to turn a blind eye towards all the flaws of the ML and just bash the FL for literally nothing..
I think she was closer with HH than we know. HH did say once that he stepped aside for HJ in the past but he doesn't…
JH didnt do anything and if that video gets out then her name will be cleared.. she was also unaware that someone recorded their convo.. we have to wait and watch whether the video will be a pro or con for her... as for the rest of the staff, they hate her because they believe whatever is said by the other woman.. so if she gets exposed JH wont have any problem at the work place... it will be harder for the bitchy woman to work there as no one will believe her after that..
it's just me who get kind lost? according to the writer we already hit 2020 but seems like just three months pass…
they didnt hit 2020 because if so then HH and HJ will have to enlist and thats their last chance.. they both will be 28 and they can no longer extend their military service.. both of them havent made it that big.. HJ is just on the first stage of becoming famous..
Incredibly boring and irrelevante family and side stories apart, i'm watching just for curiosity how the love…
its rated 15+ and airs at 9pm on tv which is prime time so they cannot show the leads jumping on each other.. also the last 2-3 mins of the drama is just a mini version of whats gonna happen in the next episode..more like an extended precap.. in one scene they are inside a hotel and in the other they are dancing in the rain.. so there is more to the scenes which will be shown in the next episode..
I think she was closer with HH than we know. HH did say once that he stepped aside for HJ in the past but he doesn't…
i dont think JH has to resign because i just remmeberd someone recorded the conversation b/w JH and the bitchy woman.. probably by the girl who is friends with JH.. it that she tries to slap JH and i think she also confesses of spreading fake rumors about JH.. if her youtube career takes off then i guess its better than working at the salon but as of now she only has HH and HJ as her clients and she cannot go forward with just the two of them..
I think she was closer with HH than we know. HH did say once that he stepped aside for HJ in the past but he doesn't…
Sorry, I don't remember HH saying he already lost one girl to HJ.. if JH is the 2nd one then HH seriously has an obsession with whatever HJ likes.. also I love the way HJ gave cold shoulders to the ex.. what was she expecting after what she did to him..
JH could have cleared her name and proved to the rest of the staffs that she was never wrong.. that way the bitchy woman will be the one who will be isolated at the work place and JH don't have to quit the job either.. I am not saying she has to create a scene at the salon but can tell the manager what happened and manager will privately talk to that woman and let her know that the manager is aware of whatever is happening..
Ok, so here is my problem with this: I don't like where this is going. If we say that we should not have any more…
It was only the shower scene that they had to be shoot first and it's understandable if jcw cannot maintain the diet and workout once he starts shooting for 10 to 12 hours at minimum on sets.. also as I said his body looks unrealistic because they use makeup to highlight all those abs and biceps and then there is VFX as well..
Male actors rarely have to starve themselves to have that kind of body..
Athletes also have super ripped body.. take a look at any runner.. he will have a super ripped body with no fat anywhere to be found.. they workout and train themselve for hours and have a strict diet to follow so obviously they can maintain ripped body for a longer time than actors who have difficult work hours.. it's mostly because of the work hours that it's hard for actors to maintain those body unlike athletes..
Ok, so here is my problem with this: I don't like where this is going. If we say that we should not have any more…
those chiseled abs can be obtained with healthy diets.. my brother had 6 pack abs when he was in college and he will be the last one in the world to starve himself.. guys need to consume a high level of proteins and nutrients to maintain that kind of body.. its mostly the females that have to starve coz women are supposed to look petite and slim and guys are supposed to be bulky.. men mostly only have to say no to junk foods.. they dont need to starve themselves.. most athletes have 6 pack abs and they have it because they work out for their profession and athletes cannot starve themselves because it affects their performance. usain bolt has a toned body and he obviously didn't starve himself for that body.. he is a runner and he works out to keep his stamina up which automatically resulted in him having a tonned body..
the actor's body looks unrealistic coz first they use makeup on the abs to highlight it and then add vfx but they do have a good body to start with.. like for example even in the rehearsal of the fight scenes of k2, jcw still had a very good body..
also diet changes according to body type.. henry cavil might belong to the type that gets fat easily and is way too puffed up to the level he looks unnatural.. he has to play superman so he had to change his body type to a comic book character which has an unrealistic body.. on the other hand, most of the korean celebs have a lean body and looks very natural.. most of them dont look like they are on steroids.. these actors just have to look like the healthier version of themselves..
also being healthy dont mean one should have a toned body.. it just means one has to eat healthy and keep the body active.. eating junk food sitting on a couch whole day and getting fat is never better than starving oneself to get an unrealistic body.. both are equally harmful..
also, i dont like the fact that JH decided to quit her job due to her bitchy coworker.. she could have simply taken a video of those two together and then show it to the manager of the salon before throwing water at her..
I don't remember the ep no..
This scene and ep 16 are two different scenes..
he didnt made his daughter apologize coz he didnt want to create bigger issues b/w the parents.. he did that so that his daughter wont be suspected again when the toy disappears.. after that he took the toy and dumped it.. this time no one will question or doubt his daughter for the disappearance of the toy.. he was teaching a 6 yr old child to be maniplative.. thats very twisted..
also kids fight and the other kid is also just a 6 yr old and taking away her toy was not a cool move.. he did that as a revenge and someone with a normal mind wont do such things to another child..
they could have easily shown jea han exposing the bad guys and the trio has a happy ending.. it kind of dragged a little in b/w.. it should have been 12-14 episodes instead of 16..
hyunsoo loves and takes care of the daughter more but he clearly isnt the good influence she needs in her life because he was teaching her to be manipulative.. he forced her to apologize to the mother and classmate only coz if his daughter does something wrong the next time no one will question her and he even taught her that.. he dont care if his daughter does something bad, he was teaching her to get away with it.. he even took the toy of the other child and dumped it.. the other child is also just a child.. it was her mother that was being problematic.. ji won saw 2 children fighting as something normal whereas hyunsoo and the other mother took it personally and got themselves involved in it.. ji won clearly was a better parent out of the 3.. the other mother is shown as a housewife and she clearly isn't a better mother than jiwon.. so being with your kid 24x7 isn't a criteria for being a better parent.. its the values and teaching that you insert in them that matters and jiwon clearly knows how to do it..
hyunsoo at the start clearly wasn't capable of teaching her to differentiate good and bad because he himself wasn't aware of it.. so its obvious that all this was taught by jiwon and her mother..
a lot of fathers miss the first word or first steps of their children.. will their parenting skills be at question just because they missed all of that? why is ji won's parenting skills being questioned just because she isn't as involved in the daily activities of her daughter?
you will let him handle the kid if he did everything perfectly esp if your work keeps you busy like jiwon.. she is a detective in the crime department and has to work around the clock.. she isnt an office employee with a 9 to 5 job where she can wake up at a fixed time and go to bed at a fixed time..
the father has equal responsibility towards the child and if he is willingly doing all that, then why should jiwon do it? its not that jiwon let him do it, he does it on his own and its also not like she has no attachment towards her child.. the daughter loves her a lot and thats why she excluded her father from her drawings and she never rebelled with her mother to meet her father even though she knew he didnt go for vacation.. she was a good mother and thats why the daughter chose to trust her even though she is more attached to her father..
cooking food, cleaning up the house and bed the kid is not the only criteria to be a good mother or a good wife.. if so then what is the criteria to be a good father or a good husband?
you need to think out of the patriarchal norms set by people.. will do hyung so be called a bad father if he was the one who has to work around the clock?
if the child didnt love her mother, she wouldnt have been considerate towards her and kept out her father who she loves the most from her drawing just so her mother wont cry..
she blindly trusted her husband for 14 long years and she comes to know he has been lying, manipulating and forged his identity for 14 yrs.. she handled all of that really well. did you forget the fact that he is a suspect to a murder and has psychological issues, on top of that she heard him saying he never loved her.. anyone with a brain wont try to provoke a person with psychological issues by directly confronting him and she had the brain.. even after the betrayal she gave him a benefit of doubt and didnt go by the evidences that proved him to be a killer.. she tried to find out the truth about him.. the least she could do is show her pend up frustration and she has every right to be angry with him..
just because he was perfect at looking after the daughter and doing the house-hold doesnt compensate for the fact that everything about him was a lie, starting from his name and family. forget married woman, will any woman handle the fact that the guy she loved lied about himself from the start? she still chose to trust his good behavior towards her and their daughter above the pile of lies he has said to her..
for someone who is so critical about dramas they watch you seems to turn a blind eye towards all the flaws of the ML and just bash the FL for literally nothing..
as for the rest of the staff, they hate her because they believe whatever is said by the other woman.. so if she gets exposed JH wont have any problem at the work place... it will be harder for the bitchy woman to work there as no one will believe her after that..
if her youtube career takes off then i guess its better than working at the salon but as of now she only has HH and HJ as her clients and she cannot go forward with just the two of them..
JH could have cleared her name and proved to the rest of the staffs that she was never wrong.. that way the bitchy woman will be the one who will be isolated at the work place and JH don't have to quit the job either.. I am not saying she has to create a scene at the salon but can tell the manager what happened and manager will privately talk to that woman and let her know that the manager is aware of whatever is happening..
Male actors rarely have to starve themselves to have that kind of body..
Athletes also have super ripped body.. take a look at any runner.. he will have a super ripped body with no fat anywhere to be found.. they workout and train themselve for hours and have a strict diet to follow so obviously they can maintain ripped body for a longer time than actors who have difficult work hours.. it's mostly because of the work hours that it's hard for actors to maintain those body unlike athletes..
the actor's body looks unrealistic coz first they use makeup on the abs to highlight it and then add vfx but they do have a good body to start with.. like for example even in the rehearsal of the fight scenes of k2, jcw still had a very good body..
also diet changes according to body type.. henry cavil might belong to the type that gets fat easily and is way too puffed up to the level he looks unnatural.. he has to play superman so he had to change his body type to a comic book character which has an unrealistic body..
on the other hand, most of the korean celebs have a lean body and looks very natural.. most of them dont look like they are on steroids.. these actors just have to look like the healthier version of themselves..
also being healthy dont mean one should have a toned body.. it just means one has to eat healthy and keep the body active.. eating junk food sitting on a couch whole day and getting fat is never better than starving oneself to get an unrealistic body.. both are equally harmful..