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LOL...I don't know, I never couldn't finish the synopsis, so I never watched ... Since someone did us all a huge favor and shortened the synopsis, maybe now I'll read it and give it a go.

Well, I've been around a while ... most comments on K-dramas are from memory, since I watched most before joining MDL. :P

Good idea!

Good point about female hero vs. female villain ... But I am happy there's a role for Gong Li.

♥♥♥ Gong Li ♥♥♥ ... and the rest of the cast ♥, I will watch only for them. .. but I doubt I will like anything by Disney :P

And I got all that from Ep 1, I dropped it after that.... Older lakorns are usually better :)

It's a maybe .. so no spoilers yet.
I didn't make this chart, just translated it after finding it online .... I made one for myself on paper first, as I was writing the synopsis and trying to understand :P ... After the subbed trailer, it took almost a year for this to get subbed.

I didn't exactly rave about it, it has many weaknesses , LOL ....
The makjang and Intertwining relations of all characters is fun.... Hope u like it!!.
I liked the original, Ching Chang much more, but had to watch mostly raw :((

Ken's BEST performance w/ Aff's worst performance ever!!!
While Ken has saved this lakorn entirely on his own ... Aff could have easily taken it down entirely on her own.

Aff is not just bad, she is the worst kind of actor ... bad actors either Overact, seem unnatural... OR ... Underact, no facial expressions... BUT ... Aff is worse than that!!!
--->>> she either had the WRONG expression... OR ... CRIED incessantly to the point of extreme annoyance!!! .... All can be forgiven, except giving the Wrong expression which leads to misunderstanding the character and the scene!!!

Not is perfect as the second lead!... Vicky is also good, much better than FL.

As for the drama, a heart-wrenching story, very deep emotions ... the writing is a bit weak, I wish it had better scenarios as to why & how she went away, and why she returned , and why she chose to be w/ Doc .... they could be overlooked to enjoy Ken and his heart-ache.

NOTE: just rewatched w/ Eng subs ... My first impressions from 4 yrs ago is below in comments, but since back then I had watched w/ Spanish subs, I didn't understand half the dialogue .

I think his performance here is even better than in Sawan Biang, has more subtlety.
Too bad he was paired w/ Aff who gave her worst performance ever:((

It is also streaming on YT. Search for
---> "Jao Rai Eng Sub" or for this playlist "Jao Rai (Cracked Heart / Fractured Heart)" ... Notice: different spelling of title!
If it still doesn't show up (it doesn't on my iPad YT App) then try searching for the
--->channel by user : n91667

Please DO NOT put direct link, especially if it's YT, vidz may disappear, like so many others. :(

Yes!

I agree!!! Most interesting when both heroes & villains have some of each other's traits w/in them. They're complex, gray and often conflicted.
I also like the no-excuses villain, when not 1-Dimensional.... he/she may be conflicted, but he is what he is , and he does what he must w/ a laid back chill attitude: MiShil from Queen Seon Duk is such a great villain of this type.

Are any of these is what u r looking for?... I found these songs from OST:
Bath scene, It seems they may not have released the single, since this is all that CH 3 put out on YT:
ผมไม่ปล่อยจนกว่าคุณจะหายบ้า
"I Won't Let You Go Until You've Gone Crazy" (I think that's the title) : https://youtu.be/JxfEsnMTrVk?t=180

Openning Song:
ถึงฉันจะเลวก็รักเธอ
"I'll Be Damned if I Love You" (His) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAVvlMbN11M

Closing Song:
ทำไม
"Why?" (Hers) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-lGXMEczk

The part about her making him doubt his brother or planning to run away w/ Jian Chi, aka Lian Ping, I did not understand since there are no subs .... In ep. 1-7 , Lian Kai asserted his confidence in his brother and she rejected Jian Chi 's return; only accepted that he help her support Lian Kai as leader to fulfill her mom's wish before leaving, she has not forgiven ....
In later episodes, it was obvious she admitted her love for Lian Kai .... I'll have to wait for the subs to see.

I like Lian Kai's complex personality, so far .... He is in emotional turmoil, due to his mom's tragedy, his dad's apathy for him and his unrequited love ... I haven't seen any violence from him yet.

We may have different tastes, I can see why some may find Lian Kai as a jerk..
Although, I don't understand why u think she's annoying, I completely understand why she is still repelling Lian Kai after 2 yrs of marriage...she has also accepted her fate, and supports him publicly.

Thanks for the Twitter link, very interesting, I love it!

I believe that's him ... I read an article about him when I first watched TLTSILY, and have since lost it, that's why I couldn't recall his name.... But I remember reading about him as 6th master, thus the censors' intervention ... I'll have to read more about him from other sources.
I knew you would know, I just thought to include info about Murong Feng, for anyone interested in details ;)

I just checked photos of him on google, he is very young ....By age of 21 he commanded an army as Major-General, took over for his father at 27 ... His English pronunciation is impressive!

Are you watching on Productiveprocrastinatorsite.wordpress ?
She not only subs, but gives episode overview and has articles explaining the multiple names and the warlords .

It seems she is subbing at least 2 other dramas at same time, so progress is only 2 eps per week .... I want to put it on hold until subbing is done, but worried videos will not be available ...

Although it has finished airing, only 27 eps are released raw ...I'll have to check out Maple Stage if has more.

I'll be starting Rule The World now.

I understand ur confusion. At first I too didn't know who she was eating lamb with, or who was surrounding the mountain, or how they are friends yet enemies .......

When Pan Jian Chi first walked into the train compartment wearing the Murong army uniform, I thought it was Murong Feng ....
The first few episodes, I kept looking at the cast tab to compare faces and look up names, since it all got confusing .... and then I got it all cleared up later ....
I was frustrated they used actors w/ similar features and so many names.
watching raw does not work in this type of drama, large reliance on dialogue and little action most of the time.

Siege in Fog ... same feel of tension and passion b/w the couple , both MCs are smart and cool - Males are cunning, Females are calm and tough, not feisty or cute ... Relationship based on true attraction of similar personalities.
Romance focused, same novel author, Republican Era, and many small trope similarities ... also has Murong Feng in his younger days - he's called Liu Shao (sixth master) as the historical figure he is based on ....
In TLTSILY , he was renamed Si Shao (4th master) b/c Chinese Censors did not allow reference to actual historical figure.

I think episodes b/w 10 to 20 reveal bits of info , like how her mother forced her to marry, later the wedding night, and later how she first met him. ... not in chronological order, but it works just fine .