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I am on Ep 10 and Khem is bland. He is way too passive. I also think the script has a major issue: we don't see anything happen between Peem and Khem that can make us believe THEY are in love. Instead, the series relies solely on the reincarnation plot to convince us they are in love. For Charn and Jet, they make us see them falling in love. We can actually believe it is not just the reincarnated souls that are pulling them together.

This series, thus far, is poorly written. It has many plot holes, a lot of nothing happens between scenes. I have no idea why it is so popular. I will finish it but I am not very pleased with it. Seems I could be watching something better :(

And gosh, the trolls here are annoying. Why would people think it is disrespectful to criticize a series? It is art. Once you put it out there, it is meant to be watched, analyzed, and criticized. If you don't want to be criticized, don't publish it, don't put it out there.

But why is she not more mad at the person who kill her baby? Why not haunt her descendants? Or are they all the same?

Yeah. Seems like the ร shouldn't be there.

So much hate....

I think there is one scene where someone refers to Sorn as stubborn, but I could be wrong. I am 90% sure.... Its towards the end, one of the last episodes.

You need to take it down a notch. I wasnt mansplaning. I was giving you my pov. Now, I wrote an article on Thai BL history (thats pretty high on Google. I think the AI uses it in its explanation, which is funny) but even I have to Google yaoi because I forget the acronym (and how its spelled). So i wasnt explaining as much as laying out the background for my thesis on why this series is pure yaoi.


While its sort of common knowledge that Thai BL comes from Yaoi, its not commom knowledge that Yaoi was criticized for lacking plot and meaning. It was more titillating than it was cerebral.

The closest to Yaoi we had before in Thai BL was Mame, but I personally think this is the truest Yaoi series ever to come out of Thailand. Whether that is a negative or positive critique is up to you to decide, not me. I never defended the series. I never said it was not shallow.

It sort of had a climax? It had a denouement for sure. It had very little in the way of a plot and the story had no meaning. Its just them getting together.

I think the climax is supposed to be when Sorn confesses his love to Jun. So its Yaoi without the Y hahaha

U didnt look it up. YAOI means yama nashi ochi nashi imi nashi. Means no climax, no plot, no meaning.

My Stubborn is a series that goes back to the roots of BL: Yaoi stories. Its pure Yaoi.

Its Yaoi. Look it up.

Its YAOI, what do you expect? :D Yama nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi ("no climax, no point, no meaning"). This is pure yaoi and it is great! Same thing with My Stubborn (do we even know what company they work for? What work do they do?) :D

I agree. I keep thinking this is one of the very few series in which the couple not having sex right away makes a lot of sense.

I really liked that in My Tee they have Drake's character trying to put his hands down Frank's characters pants very quickly within them meeting each other, but overall I prefer the slow-simmering romance and honestly here it became physical pretty quickly with them kissing before they even say they are BFs. In most BLs, they first declare their interest and then they kiss. So I really like that about the main couple.

I think the hesitation from Shane is also very realistic. He barely knows Kit and he is afraid of love in general. He pulls back not because he is the typical Uke (is he an Uke?), but because it is in his nature. He also eventually relents to the pursuit, not because he is tired, or for whatever random reason most Uke's relent to their Semes, but because internally he was in conflict and he needed to resolve that conflict first...

I also hope for a Per/Tar ship. They are very cute together. It doesn't have to be the kind of relationship that we get to see "all of it", but at least I hope by the end it is clear they are a couple.

I agree with your analysis. I remember being so mad in the episode where Mhok and Day fight about the issue of Mhoks job offer. I kept thinking but he is scared of not being there for Day. Like, nothing up to that point made me think Mhok was over protective of Day or had any kind of toxic relationship with him. In fact, i thought that he was able to heal through his relationship with Day.

And then they gave Day his vision back and I lost it lol. Just so mad.

But yeah, spot on analysis of the series. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

ATOTS was ok. The ending was really bad, thought not nearly as bad as the ending of Last Twilight. I think both shows follow the general tendency of Thai BLs to have a strong beginning and middle and a terrible last stretch.

ThamePo is similar in this regard. When I thought it was finally getting better, it took a left turn and headed straight to nonsensical.

Now, I will tell you, at least ThamePo didnt hype us as much as Last Twilight. Day almost loosing his vision only to get it restored at the end of the series was a total betrayal of the message the series was trying to tell about disabilities.

You didn't connect to the story. That is fine. Personally, I think it was the best series I watched this year.

Btw its an FB group.

Hey, quick question, are you USA based or native? We have a usa based group and i think you would be a good fit. You dont know how many ppl (usually non westerners) i have fought over about the distinction between queer and BL. Just the fact you understand it makes me want to add you to our group. If you are interested, let me know here!

I would call this a queer series with BL elements. The BL elements are there: the boys all turn out gay, friends don't really care their friends are gay, there is no coming out, there is no consequences for being gay in public, you get hints of seme and uke dynamics, etc.

IPYTM was the same, maybe even more queer than BL.

I think that it depends on how you interpret the scene.

Did we watch only the first few minutes of them making out in the photobooth or was that the whole thing? Did they kiss off-camera? IDK

When they were in the Chian's room, I think they did AVOID kissing. That was definitely a director's choice. I interpret it as they are not wanting to acknowledge their feelings for each other. "I am horny" seems to be the message they want to say to each other.

Again, it goes back to the tagline of the series: they are avoiding showing their true emotions.

Maybe if I watch it again I will see something I missed, IDK I have a feeling there is more to this... :O

The article doesn't cite sources. What is the source? Only IQYI knows what its viewership is...

You do know that wasnt directed at you?

I will die on fhis hill. This show is not about consumerism and the best proof of that is how it wraps up its last chapter.

I am not arrogant. I am opinionated. And i welcome other POVs. Just giving you my own. No idea why you take it so personal. I am not insulting you.