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The director, Cheewin, was involved with Love Sick and Make It Right. He also did Why R U?

I consider P'Andy, New and Cheewin as the 3 "fathers" of modern Thai BL. So yes, having Cheewin helm this is huge!

Keep watching! If they follow the book and the OG, you will get to change your mind on Phun! :)

Technically, Yuri is not Noh's girlfriend. Keep that in mind as you watch because it is a HUGE point later on...

How long have you been watching Thai BL and what other BLs have you watched?

Phun was assertive, just not as cocky maybe? Well, I take that back. There is another famous line in the original in which Noh says something along the lines of where are your [word for male genitalia], and Phun pushes his hips forward and says "they are right here". LOL

This Phun is different, but I don't think it has to do with his assertiveness. I think the director is trying to make sure we know Phun likes Noh. In the OG, they never made it clear. The book makes it very clear. Phun has liked Noh for YEARS.

why?

They will, I am sure. They are already at the end of Episode 4 of the OG in just 1 episode. I have a feeling next episode will be 5 -7. I think this series will be done with LS OG season 1 by Episode 6 at the least.

I call it the Mother of all Thai BL series, while I call the Grandad, Love of Siam ;)

Earn and Pete, Per and Mawin (Win), and Ohm and Mick.

In the OG, Khom has a girlfriend from the convent school.

Hmmm... you do know this is based on a book? And the numbers not matching is not a trope of the OG. It was in the book. It is just a plot device to get the boys to find out that Noh slept at Phuns house so they become suspicious.

Actually, I think that more than that, maybe the thing that is more important about the uniforms is that in both the OG and in this one, Phun proudly tells the convent girls that Noh is wearing his uniform because he slept in his house (You can only see this scene in the IQYI version). Phun is proud of this. Why? In the book, Phun has been in love with Noh for A LONG TIME. Noh staying with him at his house is the highlight of the day.

As a gay man, I can assure you, there is something special about sharing clothing like that with your crush and something even more special about being able to spend the entire night with him.

So, I don't see it as a trope. It is necessary for this story and for the characterization of Phun.

TBH I thought that in the OG and the novel, Phun came out as a bit of a manipulator and kind of too much into the "physical" aspects of the relationship? Like, he was more interested in sex than in loving Noh. IDK maybe it is just me. I am realizing it as I watch this new version that it is one thing I didn't like about the OG. Phun was not someone that I would put out as an example to follow. He had Aim but wanted Noh. He deflowers Aim and then deflowers Noh. Some of this is coded in the series but more explicitly addressed in the book.

I just can't see this Phun being like that. He seems sweet. He seems like he is giving hints to Aim that he doesn't want her at all.

I really love Almonds take on Phun. He is killing it.

LOL OMG I was thinking the same thing and I just went and look how old he is and he is 19. Still young but I think he stands out because of how much older he is. Like, all the other ones look pretty much like kids except him and Earn. :)

Earn looks good too, but I agree that Pete looks the best.

I am glad you recognize the importance of this series in the history of Thai BL even if you didn't like the OG and I am so happy you are watching this remake.

I am a huge fan of the OG and I am enjoying this remake so much. I think the Noh and Phun story is still one of my favorite stories. Noh really and truly ends up loving Phun, and while I don't think Phun came out as loving in the novel or the series, I think he does in this remake. Almond doesn't always smile but he smiles at key moments that let you know the character is falling in love with Noh. He really has the marks of a great actor.

I actually liked it. It was a good way to introduce the old characters and learn what their faces look like in this version. It is also a good way to learn all the new characters in this version.

It was also great for us Thai learners to practice reading the Thai script ;)

I hope they get some development. The original characters were dark skinned, and thus it was a rather colorist stereotype.

The issue here is that this is a Cheewin series (he is the director) and he LOVES that type of humor and he loves putting trans characters in it and super girly characters in general. Like, he even played one himself in Make It Right and he did a cameo in Love Sick season 2 in which he was also a very effeminate character being overly gay for comedic purposes.

So lets just hope they get at least a little bit of development.

I agree with your observations about Thai BL, but I fail to see how it raises any concerns about this first episode of this remake. Yes, BL has turned to more adult stories, but it doesn't mean we are done telling stories about first love in high school. In fact, currently we have 2 other high school BLs, telling first love stories. Now, I will agree that these other 2 series deal with slightly more mature topics, but they are still set in high school.

The other points you bring up about the evolution of Thai BL and how the stories have become more queer centered, I 100% agree, but again it is too early here to pass any judgment. The Angel's gang has been updated to the Barbie gang and we are still waiting to see if those characters will be developed. The maids are now played by two trans characters, which is nice, but they are still playing a comedic role. However, considering this is a Cheewin series (the director of Playboyy, Make It Right, Why R U? etc), I just see it as his signature. He likes that kind of humor.

I actually thought they did something super nice and I am looking forward to how the story develops, but if you watched ep 1, you should notice that Phun says something I think is critical to the themes they will develop later in the story. He says that no matter if you are rich or poor, when family doesn't understand, it is always an issue. I think he was referring to him being gay or loving a boy and how he expects his father to not understand him. This is a critical update needed in the story.

In the OG, the last episodes shows Phun going to his dad and sort of declaring his love for someone, but that someone is never directly referenced as a he, nor does Phun ever say Noh's name. This was frustrating because I think we all wanted to see Phun come out.

I have a feeling this version will be updated to show a coming out and I think this is critical because, as you said, BL needs to adapt to modern times. It is not that modern Thai society is THAT open, but that in this type of work of fiction, it is important to show acceptance and how the older generation CAN change its attitudes.

LOL This Khom seems more interesting than the OG Khom. The OG Khom turned out to be not as sharp as they had us believe in the first episodes.

I wonder if the Playboyy cast will make a cameo.

like what? can you give examples?

Of course you have to come at me with ad hominem arguments because if you have watched episode 1, it is clear this is far from "sexualizing children".

To be clear, this is the bottom line, so I will quote myself:

"@Slvrdolphin You are so prudish. And i dont enjoy the drama because they are minors, i enjoy it because they are portraying innocent, first love. As a heterosexual person, you probably dont get how cute and healing it is to see gay love portrayed so innocently.

So for me, its the lack of explicit sex in this context that i enjoy the most."

Read that line twice.

Thank you.

Thats why i say "should" and added a smiley face.

Didnt want it to come out the wrong way!

If you watch BL, you should know. Love Sick is considered the Mother of the Thai BL series. :P

To learn more about BL history: https://boyloveperusal.com/2020/06/07/a-brief-history-of-thai-bl/