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I agree with your observations about Thai BL, but I fail to see how it raises any concerns about this first episode of this remake. Yes, BL has turned to more adult stories, but it doesn't mean we are done telling stories about first love in high school. In fact, currently we have 2 other high school BLs, telling first love stories. Now, I will agree that these other 2 series deal with slightly more mature topics, but they are still set in high school.

The other points you bring up about the evolution of Thai BL and how the stories have become more queer centered, I 100% agree, but again it is too early here to pass any judgment. The Angel's gang has been updated to the Barbie gang and we are still waiting to see if those characters will be developed. The maids are now played by two trans characters, which is nice, but they are still playing a comedic role. However, considering this is a Cheewin series (the director of Playboyy, Make It Right, Why R U? etc), I just see it as his signature. He likes that kind of humor.

I actually thought they did something super nice and I am looking forward to how the story develops, but if you watched ep 1, you should notice that Phun says something I think is critical to the themes they will develop later in the story. He says that no matter if you are rich or poor, when family doesn't understand, it is always an issue. I think he was referring to him being gay or loving a boy and how he expects his father to not understand him. This is a critical update needed in the story.

In the OG, the last episodes shows Phun going to his dad and sort of declaring his love for someone, but that someone is never directly referenced as a he, nor does Phun ever say Noh's name. This was frustrating because I think we all wanted to see Phun come out.

I have a feeling this version will be updated to show a coming out and I think this is critical because, as you said, BL needs to adapt to modern times. It is not that modern Thai society is THAT open, but that in this type of work of fiction, it is important to show acceptance and how the older generation CAN change its attitudes.

LOL This Khom seems more interesting than the OG Khom. The OG Khom turned out to be not as sharp as they had us believe in the first episodes.

I wonder if the Playboyy cast will make a cameo.

like what? can you give examples?

Of course you have to come at me with ad hominem arguments because if you have watched episode 1, it is clear this is far from "sexualizing children".

To be clear, this is the bottom line, so I will quote myself:

"@Slvrdolphin You are so prudish. And i dont enjoy the drama because they are minors, i enjoy it because they are portraying innocent, first love. As a heterosexual person, you probably dont get how cute and healing it is to see gay love portrayed so innocently.

So for me, its the lack of explicit sex in this context that i enjoy the most."

Read that line twice.

Thank you.

Thats why i say "should" and added a smiley face.

Didnt want it to come out the wrong way!

If you watch BL, you should know. Love Sick is considered the Mother of the Thai BL series. :P

To learn more about BL history: https://boyloveperusal.com/2020/06/07/a-brief-history-of-thai-bl/

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Hi. I think its possible this is just fictional and we cant find logic to it. However, i have a chinese friend who says he can get drunk on one beer. The issue is some asian ppl dont have an enzyme that detoxifies alchohol so in theory, its possible.

I have also gotten drunk of one beer. Happens with high abv beer.

In Thai BL, neither term is correct. I would use the term Uke and Seme. In Thai BL Semes are not always tops, Ukes are not always strict bottoms, and neither has to be submissive or dominant, thought usually the Seme has a dominant personality and the Uke has a submissive personality.

What defines Seme and Uke in Thai BL is who pursues who.

In Japanese BLs, Seme and Uke correspond more to top/bottom and dom/sub, but I would still refrain from using those terms in English when describing Japanese BL, since the most correct and descriptive term is still Uke/Seme, as they are literal archetypes while in English top and bbottom only describes ONE aspect or dimension of the character. The term seme/uke encompasses all of the character's traits.

Yeah, I don't see it. I watched the trailer again to see if I was missing something, but no. I don't see it.

Absolutely nothing girly about him in this role. I also don't see any female energy or vibes.

Just to clarify, August became a huge star after Love Sick. He is in fact one of Love Sicks most successful alums. He has been in a couple of blockbuster movies and lakorns. He has now 10 years of acting experience and afaik is the only LS actor to have done supporting or main roles every year for the last 10 years.

Also, watch the OST for 2moons2. August was the singer and is on the MV. He didnt totally disappear ;)

I think you should try to watch On1y One. It is pretty good.

hahaha My favorite line of the series. I SCREAMED! LMAO

What does Q mean?

Wait, I take #5 back. There was a hint in the last episode that suggest that Wang is in love with Tian. This is when Wang says he wanted a brother "but now...", then he didn't say anything else. I think the unsaid part is, "back then I would have love you as a brother, now I want to love you as more than a brother"....

So, I think that unsaid part is the hint that Wang knows how he feels about Tian.

I am not sure what you mean by having a "stronger" POV, but in any event, I can tell you that this series is less expositional and more subtle about what's going on. For example, in the last 6 episodes I have gathered that:

1) Wang feels abandoned by his dad. He feels like everyone leaves him. Mom died, dad is always out doing something. He moves a lot so he doesn't make any friends. He has withdrawn like a turtle into his shell.
2) Tian's relationship with his mom is good. I think they are hinting Tian has daddy issues (while Wang has both mommy and daddy issues, but his mommy issues are stronger). Tian is more withdrawn than Wang. His grandpa said he doesn't get close to anyone. I think he does this to protect himself, but why, we still don't know yet.
3) Mom is trying her best to win over Wang and has slowly gotten closer to him. I think there is an important connection here of love and food. Wang's mom died in the kitchen. He had a hard time accepting Tian's mom's food. For some reason he accepted Tian's grandpa's food faster, probably because he sees the mom as competing with his mom. I think these are all relationships that will grow as the series goes on.
4) Based on Tian's first moment (EP1), I think we are meant to assume that Tian fell for Wang the moment he saw him. This explains his behavior towards Wang very well. He is smitten and probably feels mixed emotions about moving into the house (he wants to be close to Wang but he also fears falling in love)
5) I am not sure if Wang knows that he is attracted to Tian, but he knows that he needs Tian. He knows Tian makes him happy. This is one of the mysteries of this series for me. Does Wang really know he is gay? At first I thought he did, but based on a few hints in the last two episodes, I am starting to think he doesn't. I think he is confused.
6) In the last episode we learned that grandpa is trying to look out for Tian. He warns him of the consequences of trusting in someone who only sees friendships as transactional. I am not sure where this is going but I am glad Tian didn't follow his advice for now.
7) Wang is not comfortable accepting Tian's "gifts" (water, medicine, etc) and always seems to want to reciprocate. As I said, Grandpa sees this as a bad omen, but I think the reason Wang is like this is because he moved around so much, he never developed the kind of friendships that are not transactional.
8) We also learned in the last episode that Tian is opening up to Wang and that he is starting to feel like he can unpack. Unpack his bags and probably his feelings...
9) We are also getting an adult gay side couple who are showing the boys what life could look like for them.

So I think we are getting a LOT of character development. I don't know why you think we are not. This series has been EXCELLENT when it comes to character development IMO.

GL has to start somewhere. Frankly, I see more GL in BL as a good thing.

BTW Cranium is going to be a really good GL and it is coming out soon. It is from Sain'ts production company, IdolFactory and it is a spin off of The Sign. So, you are already seeing more GLs. :)

Why do they need to cast 18 year old when this series is about teenagers?

If you want to see soft-core porn, there is plenty of BL to watch. This is just a really sweet story about first love and the pains of falling in love for the first time.

There were only 2 scenes that were borderline "sexual" in the OG. One is a sort of forced sex scene of a female character, but if I recall correctly, it was more implied than anything else. There was no skin shown or anything like that.

The other scene is the kiss between Phun and Noh, but by today's standard, it was very tame. There was a second kiss that was a bit more passionate, but it was cut from the OG when it aired and was shown years later at a fan meet.

And that's it. Oh, the "sex" scene was basically them going into bed and then they panned down to a fish tank in the room and showed two goldfish sort of chasing each other. Only way to know they had sex is if you had read the novel.

I believe that there is also a few double entendre, including the friend group telling Noh that he has pretty much sold his ass to Phun for money. Noh also asks Phun if he has forgotten about the front door (Aim's woman's parts) after trying out the back door (Noh's ass). So yeah, there is lots of double entendre but nothing really that would not pass the muster of censorship. After all, MCOT is a government owned channel.

The OG was not 18+. Whoever told you that doesn't know what 18+ means.

They also created Make It Right. In fact, Cheewin was an assistant director in the OG Love Sick