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This happens to be A DRAMA COMMENTING AND CRITICISM PAGE. Not a fanpage. Pls, take your condescending attitude elsewhere and don't read comments if you don't like them.

spewing insults=rudie. Pls get some manners.

This content and situation would easily have made a good 20-40 episode sageuk. We would have learned all about why the clans fight with each other, what is at stake. We would know how the situations and strifes evolved, from the very start. We would have started from the childhood of the main characters. We would get to know all the characters, including supporting ones, through and through. We would have deeply cared about happens to them. We would have understood every party's motives and goals, and had the chance to reflect ourselves on where people make mistakes. We would have been shown how the new king or prime minister is just as ruthless as the previous one after all this fighting (as in Empress Ki). I also noticed that people who think this is "one of the best historical dramas" or "refreshingly different historical drama" have not actually watched the classic sageuks at all. With classic sageuks I mean (of course) Six Flying Dragons, Tree With Deep Roots, Scarlet Heart Ryeo....I don't think I can ever forget the personalities of the main characters in these dramas. Now we get 2 minute characters. And a lot of meaningless killing and violence which we're supposed to enjoy? (with the 2 minute characters). It's wondrous how some watchers have the skill to expand, have by their own imagination expanded, this 8 hour drama into a full fledged story.. I'm not talented that way. I remember looking at the close-up shot of the White Wolves leader's face and thinking "holy hell this definitely was not made for me." Definitely a different historical drama, but not in a good way, imo. But I know already that it'll sweep all the awards bc there are very few of us purists who really appreciate the distinct qualities of k-dramas and those giving awards do not.

spewing insults=rudie. Living in delulu land=projection. Delulus think that explicit content is the only reason we don't like this garbage. That it is otherwise good. Gonna post my explanation what is wrong with it again.

the only option is kisskh

No, I subscribed. Will also watch a couple of other interesting c-dramas.

I stopped at ep 1. One of main reasons was that the filters were so strong that the actors seemed almost faceless. Only the most generic features visible.

this drama is great (9/10 level) but it's getting a bit stressful bc I feel angry at the villagers and want them in jail. The cop son shouldn't get away with the actual murder attempt (car crash) but most likely the two rapists are going to walk free next week

ep 8 was finally what I expected from this drama from the beginning. The first 7 episodes were just kind of hollow and the humour and emotions were missing.

He didn't get any awards for Worst of Evil, although he should have (in my view also Sound of Magic and If You Wish Upon Me were very award-worthy) but it's buzz, popularity and money that counts these days, unfortunately I have no trust in those who decide on the awards anymore.

yes. Indeed it's a minefield with no healthy boundaries for discussion. Begins Youth really is very special, it's just mindboggling how something having so much heart and soul can go almost entirely unnoticed.

What you call erotic was actually rape (one woman drugged, one wife violently taken) or power play. If you ignore the sound effects, you can keep the fancy that it was erotic and art. But I don't think you actually watched this at all, since what you say is all theory and nothing corresponding to what was actually shown on screen.

it won't have another season. The ending is open, but that's purely satisfying in this drama. I would strongly recommend, this one leaves a lasting impression.

Calling other commenters "haters" if they don't share your opinion basically means stepping on others freedom of speech. Freedom of speech must be protected at all cost. This is a commenting AND CRITICISM site and you don't get to say who is allowed to comment. I find Queen Woo incredibly bad for a multitude of reasons. It turns my stomach that it will get all the awards whilst really great k-dramas like Begins Youth and Like Flowers in the Sand will go unnoticed. Queen Woo is the ultimate failure in storytelling. All you get is violence, shock effects and 2 minute characters. I don't watch dramas for skipping, if I watch, I watch closely. This one is unique in a very bad way. I will def watch it until the end without skipping to see whether it really is the ultimate decadence or whether it can somehow redeem itself. A huge pile of money went into it, I want to see how it was used. Even though it's my conviction that huge budgets and quality are not in any way correlated. And if you're tempted to refer to GoT, I couldn't and wouldn't watch it. PPS: I became a Youku subscriber today. If you want something that is adventure, exciting to the max, high-end production and basically good for your soul, watch Escape From the Trilateral Slopes.

Totally agree. It's failing to be a fully fleshed out story.

Projecting.

Yes indeed. And as if everything was about a single person watching. I have a larger interest in k-dramaworld. It seems these people can't understand that.

Don't read comments, if you don't like them.

I guess the only choice is to subscribe to Youku, but this is well worth it.

No eng subs from ep 15 on, does anyone know where to watch 15-21 with eng subs?