Your points are well-stated. I just listened to Kim Soo Hyun’s presentation. The following comments seemed unrelated…
To your point about blaming KSH for KSR's death, some people see the age gap and her tender age as having a huge impact on the bond which formed between them which was so much more real for her than it was for him. This perspective suggests she was groomed for dependency.
What is never discussed is the breakup, which obviously had a huge impact on her. Everything she did after that—including her self-harm & marriage—can be viewed in the context of her twisting in the wind after having her expectations mismanaged, her hopes dashed, and finally herself cast adrift.
Wow you guys are something else. It’s just so sad how you can go from been a fan to hater in just few minutes.…
This is a teachable moment. And a cautionary tale. Maybe we can learn to pity a little bit—rather than just hate entirely—the fool who shed his loyal girlfriend & his humanity to become a star.
Mdrrrrrrrr très drole....mais pq tant de Français défendent-ils ce pédophile ? Après ce qui est arrivé…
For the past couple of days, I've been tempted to make a joke about how God doesn't visit Kim Soo Hyun, anymore. But here you are! (I hope you've been well. 😘)
It is not unreasonable to speculate that KSH's actions both during their relationship and after their breakup…
GM is KSH's agency. But both KSH and KSR were co-founders. Today, KSH remains a part-owner, and the GM CEO is KSH's half-brother (who is also involved in their other scandal about the Kpop idol/actress who committed suicide after co-starring with KSH in the film Real (2017), which the CEO produced and directed (after the original director left. Check out his recent comments on this scandal!)
Anyway, part of the grooming evidence revolves around KSH luring KSR away from her then-agency to GM. And her deal included an apartment (the one where KSH's naked ass photo was taken). So KSH lured KSR away from her entire support system. She lost her manager and staff from her old agency (who cared about her) and she became somewhat estranged from her family (moving into her own apartment at a young age). People suspect KSH did this to A) keep others from finding out too much, and B) Keeping KSR entirely dependent upon him and his cronies at GM. GM wasn't getting her many roles and no good ones (just a few commercials). So KSR helped out doing office work. But she was unpaid and received no equity in the agency she helped create.
This also plays into KSR's distress after KSH broke up with her and GM declined to renew her contract. (And KSR did move to a new agency after this, but not her original one.)
Comme d'habitude la Corée crucifie sa star. Qu'importe l'innocence d'une personne , si on peut se donner de l'importance…
L'innocence est l'affaire des tribunaux. La culpabilité est l'affaire de l'opinion publique, et c'est le cas ici.
Les personnes compatissantes dont le cœur saigne d’empathie pour une actrice en difficulté, poussée à un point de désespoir où elle a senti que le suicide était sa meilleure ou sa seule option, peuvent fournir un service bien nécessaire à d’autres qui comprennent peu les circonstances entourant les événements qui ont conduit à ce scandale actuel.
Lee Soo Hyun ne peut s'en prendre qu'à lui-même pour sa situation actuelle. S'il avait avoué la vérité sur sa relation secrète il y a quelques semaines – et présenté ses excuses à sa famille – au lieu de publier à plusieurs reprises des déclarations contenant des aveux de mensonges antérieurs, il aurait pu éviter une grande partie de ce à quoi il est confronté aujourd'hui.
Kim Sae Ron en est arrivée à un point où elle a cru qu'un choix fatal était sa seule, voire sa meilleure option. Elle était finalement sa propre victime et son propre bourreau. Mais les victimes apprennent souvent à devenir bourreaux pour tenter de faire face à une situation impossible.
Il n'est pas déraisonnable de spéculer sur les raisons qui ont contribué à son désespoir. Les calomnies et le harcèlement de Lee Jin Ho en font évidemment partie. Studio Gold Medalist en est une autre. Tout comme Kim Soo Hyun lui-même.
Les circonstances sont aussi alambiquées et extraordinaires qu'un « Makjang K-Drama », mais, à mon avis, la défenestration actuelle de l'acteur n'est la faute de personne d'autre que de lui-même.
It is not unreasonable to speculate that KSH's actions both during their relationship and after their breakup…
I don't blame KSR's family. They were doing their absolute best trying to support her the whole time. Look up the circumstances surrounding KSR's 19 (I think) previous suicide attempts. Her family was there for all but three of them (when her mom was herself overwhelmed and asked her agency to attend to her.)
Sorry I don't have any relevant links to share. People discussed all of this in recent days on this page.
Lee Jin Ho (the YouTuber), Kim Soo Hyun himself, and his agency (Gold Medalist) were by far the most significant external factors pressuring KSR into feeling like suicide was her best or only choice.
That monetary threat from GM last March 2024 had a huge impact on her. The agency then ghosted her while she was desperately reaching out for clarification, help her understand what it meant.
That ghosting took on a much greater significance when GM recently tried to to evade accusations of culpability by claiming it was all a misunderstanding, that KSR never actually owed the money, that the certified letters were only sent as a formality, for "tax reasons". But it seems it was important to them that the troubled actress think she was in dire straights, liable for a debt she could never ever pay.
what happened with the husband drama? i was off the whole time last week and couldnt catch up.
Kim Sae Ron's husband released a statement which is entirely supportive of Kim Sae Ron and her family. He addresses Lee Jin Ho (the YouTuber who has been sued by KSR's family for defamation and harassment) as well as Kim Soo Young as her oppressors. And he says they were in love, but their brief long-distance relationship wasn't sustainable and he was seeking an annulment at the time of her death.
Skeptical peoples. Basically, Online news is easily twisted and when a "scandal" is fresh a LOT more of misinformation…
That's one reason why I've really appreciated and have been sharing the Koreaboo links (as echo has, above). They have published well over 200 articles about this scandal over the past three weeks, and most of them are very concise. Some are merely a single paragraph in length. They stick to the details and keep speculation to a minimum. Or, when they do post a speculative article, it is clearly labeled as such so as to minimize any confusion which might result, such as you describe.
Wait because he dated her does that mean he killed, yeah i know dating a minor is bad but you know girls are childish…
It is not unreasonable to speculate that KSH's actions both during their relationship and after their breakup contributed to the distress and sense of hopelessness which drove KSR to making her tragic fatal choice.
Insurance adjusters are expert at assigning percentages of culpability when multiple individuals and/or other causes make choices which result in an accident. Some of us believe that—while KSR is ultimately the sole person responsible for her death—others likely also did affect her decision-making.
KSR's story over the past few years reads like a prolonged cry—or an escalating series of cries—for help. This was not directed at her friends, family, or her managers (who were powerless to assuage her), but to one person only—Kim Soo Hyun.
You (and everyone) of course are encouraged to make up your own mind(s), in your own timing. But IMO there is little to gain from arguing legal evidentiary standards in the court of public opinion.
Btw, Koreaboo's timeline is very extensive, tracking myriad details & developments.
As the saying goes - "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain…
KSH would land in the absolute center of hell (the 9th ring), which is completely frozen and is reserved for those who coldly betrayed their loved ones.
That prima facie evidence exists is an indisputable fact, and not conjecture or opinion. Those enter when evaluating its value, as you obviously have done sight-unseen. FYI, member @Tiah has provided an excellent list of the evidence on KSH's page:
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What is never discussed is the breakup, which obviously had a huge impact on her. Everything she did after that—including her self-harm & marriage—can be viewed in the context of her twisting in the wind after having her expectations mismanaged, her hopes dashed, and finally herself cast adrift.
Anyway, part of the grooming evidence revolves around KSH luring KSR away from her then-agency to GM. And her deal included an apartment (the one where KSH's naked ass photo was taken). So KSH lured KSR away from her entire support system. She lost her manager and staff from her old agency (who cared about her) and she became somewhat estranged from her family (moving into her own apartment at a young age). People suspect KSH did this to A) keep others from finding out too much, and B) Keeping KSR entirely dependent upon him and his cronies at GM. GM wasn't getting her many roles and no good ones (just a few commercials). So KSR helped out doing office work. But she was unpaid and received no equity in the agency she helped create.
This also plays into KSR's distress after KSH broke up with her and GM declined to renew her contract. (And KSR did move to a new agency after this, but not her original one.)
Les personnes compatissantes dont le cœur saigne d’empathie pour une actrice en difficulté, poussée à un point de désespoir où elle a senti que le suicide était sa meilleure ou sa seule option, peuvent fournir un service bien nécessaire à d’autres qui comprennent peu les circonstances entourant les événements qui ont conduit à ce scandale actuel.
Lee Soo Hyun ne peut s'en prendre qu'à lui-même pour sa situation actuelle. S'il avait avoué la vérité sur sa relation secrète il y a quelques semaines – et présenté ses excuses à sa famille – au lieu de publier à plusieurs reprises des déclarations contenant des aveux de mensonges antérieurs, il aurait pu éviter une grande partie de ce à quoi il est confronté aujourd'hui.
Kim Sae Ron en est arrivée à un point où elle a cru qu'un choix fatal était sa seule, voire sa meilleure option. Elle était finalement sa propre victime et son propre bourreau. Mais les victimes apprennent souvent à devenir bourreaux pour tenter de faire face à une situation impossible.
Il n'est pas déraisonnable de spéculer sur les raisons qui ont contribué à son désespoir. Les calomnies et le harcèlement de Lee Jin Ho en font évidemment partie. Studio Gold Medalist en est une autre. Tout comme Kim Soo Hyun lui-même.
Les circonstances sont aussi alambiquées et extraordinaires qu'un « Makjang K-Drama », mais, à mon avis, la défenestration actuelle de l'acteur n'est la faute de personne d'autre que de lui-même.
Sorry I don't have any relevant links to share. People discussed all of this in recent days on this page.
Lee Jin Ho (the YouTuber), Kim Soo Hyun himself, and his agency (Gold Medalist) were by far the most significant external factors pressuring KSR into feeling like suicide was her best or only choice.
That monetary threat from GM last March 2024 had a huge impact on her. The agency then ghosted her while she was desperately reaching out for clarification, help her understand what it meant.
That ghosting took on a much greater significance when GM recently tried to to evade accusations of culpability by claiming it was all a misunderstanding, that KSR never actually owed the money, that the certified letters were only sent as a formality, for "tax reasons". But it seems it was important to them that the troubled actress think she was in dire straights, liable for a debt she could never ever pay.
To me this is despicable and wantonly cruel!
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/kim-saeron-ex-husbands-bombshell-statement-sparks-anger-towards-kim-soohyun-lee-jinho/
Insurance adjusters are expert at assigning percentages of culpability when multiple individuals and/or other causes make choices which result in an accident. Some of us believe that—while KSR is ultimately the sole person responsible for her death—others likely also did affect her decision-making.
KSR's story over the past few years reads like a prolonged cry—or an escalating series of cries—for help. This was not directed at her friends, family, or her managers (who were powerless to assuage her), but to one person only—Kim Soo Hyun.
Btw, Koreaboo's timeline is very extensive, tracking myriad details & developments.
https://kisskh.at/people/424-kim-soo-hyun#comment-21457586
https://kisskh.at/people/424-kim-soo-hyun#comment-21457586
Also, Koreaboo has provided a comprehensive timeline of the relationship with over 200 separate posts for each development:
https://www.koreaboo.com/series/kim-soo-hyun-kim-sae-ron-relationship/timeline/