Maybe this is why the drama title is like this dont you think? I didnt watch Jdorama version so Im not sure if…
If I had to guess, then yeah, for sure! I've seen people have different takes on why but I think is the most probable, as it's the most obvious one! I think there's a similar problem in the jdrama, but it plays out differently (and I think the title translation is also "Tell me you love me"). In that one, I believe FL wants ML to say ILY with, like, his actual voice. This opens a can of worms I don't really wanna deal with, so I'm kinda glad it's different here!
I agree that Moeun is struggling with the self confidence stuff (I can't say I wouldn't in her circumstances)…
As a final thought, we see the difference in Moeun withdrawing and wallowing in her fear of their differences vs trying to overcome them when we contrast the moments of her listening to music loudly and crying vs the one where she plays guitar and places his hand on the instrument so he can be part of the moment. The latter makes me think she's capable of getting past the current bump in the road, and that she has both the imagination and willingness to make it happen. She just has to shake off the fear and Jinwoo needs to get it together and lay all his cards on the table! Maybe I'm delulu but I have hope!
I agree that Moeun is struggling with the self confidence stuff (I can't say I wouldn't in her circumstances) but I'll add one thing in her favor. I think the reason she's struggling so much is because Jinwoo hasn't said "I love you" to her. Sure, she's introverted but I don't think she completely lacks self confidence because otherwise she wouldn't have pursued something as unstable as acting. Trying to put myself in her shoes, I'd say she probably feels like she's initiated a lot of the moves in their relationship and while he does often match her, he seems to hesitate in going past a certain point. For example, she says ILY and he hugs her in response. This shows he cares enough to want to be with her, but he doesn't return the ILY. I can see how Moeun may begin to wonder whether she cares more for him than he does for her. It's an uncertain place to be, not enough to warrant a direct breakup but enough to cause fear. In the midst of her fear, she begins to see all the ways in which they are different, rather than the ones in which they are similar. They both withdraw when they're afraid/upset, and that plus the language barrier equals miscommunication. But it's important that in ep 14 we see Jinwoo clearly state he does love her and wants to spend his life with her, only that the admittance wasn't directed towards Moeun (what a headache!).
Now that we know he feels it, we just need him to spit it out, and learn that he can be more forthcoming with his feelings towards Moeun, rather than wait for her to pry so he can give a half-answer. I love Jinwoo but MAN, does he love half-answers. Moeun can learn to be more assertive with what she wants, make her needs known and begin to set boundaries. We had a glimpse of what that could look like for her when she told Seokyung that Jinwoo is not, in fact, alone and that he has her. Both of these things feel doable for these characters (at least, a start on that road), so I have hope that we can still stick the landing next week!
The way she said "I don't understand what you're saying" as he tried to explain himself in ep 13 made me want to throw myself off a cliff, so thanks a lot writers!!!
Something about her delivery of the line made it feel like a sword through the heart for me. It just feels like the crux of their problems and I just want them to be happy :(
Just dropping by to say that the reveal of why he used the name 'Dino' made me cry actual tears for the first time watching this show. Poor bb Jinwoo π
how do you know its 20 years? I think its around 10ish years 15 max
Ok, long but loose attempts at math ahead! So FL is canonically stated to be 33 and we know ML is older than her. They use 2013 (10 years ago) as the starting point for his professional career, then mention the 7 year gap before then where he was working in isolation, presumably just after finishing university (around 2006). That would put their breakup at about 17 years ago (yes, I rounded up for dramatic effect but it's not far from the truth). I also used this to calculate a rough age for the ML and SFL bc, assuming theirs was a four year program (and going off the knowledge of ppl starting university at about age 20 in Korea), they would've been about 20 in 2002, which would put them at around 41 in 2023.
Feel free to verify this tho, bc math is not something I'm natuarally gifted at! π
thatβs my greatest fear. although I also have this feeling that the bullied boy might be his son π
I was about to say "no shot the boy is his kid!" but then I did the math and, oh boy, new fear unlocked! I hope it's just a red herring bc the idea of such a revelation makes me want to scream in a bad way.
He lost his hearing at a young age, even if you know how to speak it still takes a lot of speech therapy to speak…
Yup! Also, he grew up in an orphanage. That means he grew up with little means and limited access to specialized care/resources (he even went to regular school without an interpreter!) so it was probably never an option for him!
Have you tried communicating with a hearing impaired person before??? Asides the slow motion talk, the female…
I personally love that we can see her struggling to communicate! She's talking at the speed she can sign, which is pretty slow and hesitant at this stage. Like with learning any other language, it's a slow road to fluency!
True :) But keep in mind that the friend knew what means to be deaf, learned the sign language for the sake of…
You have a good point about the circumstances being different for these two characters! There's less external pressure on him for sure, but I still think the story is positioning them as an example of what this kind of relationship (hearing/deaf person) could look like. We'll have to be patient and see what they do with it, but it feels like a very deliberate choice and it I just want to hope that they have a chance of making it in the end!
OH I hope that's how it's gonna be!! If anything, Kihyun and his wife should be a perfect example of being able…
Exactly! I don't care about how much angst is in a story if it ends well, lol. It would be unrealistic if they didn't have ANY issues, given the circumstances, but I love believing in the possibility of working through these things, as it usually makes for compelling character arcs.
I'm thinking that if the japanese version has a sad/bittersweet ending because of insourmontable differences between the leads (in being a relationship with a hearing person and a deaf person), then the characters of the friend and his wife (another hearing/deaf couple) exist to show that it *is* possible for this type of relationship to work (they have a kid and talk about their obstacles but overall seem happy!). Maybe I'm delulu, but I see it as a sign that maybe we're going for a happier resolution in this version. Wouldn't it be nice if in this remake, done decades after the original, we had a happier ending to show changing attitudes in society over time? Again, maybe I'm delulu but I really like the leads and I want them to be happy!
really love the music in this kdrama, every scene has some nice soothing music to it.
Yeah, it fills the space without drawing too much attention to itself (an excellent thing when we're having to pay close attention due to sparse dialogue). I think it's super well done!
Now that we know he feels it, we just need him to spit it out, and learn that he can be more forthcoming with his feelings towards Moeun, rather than wait for her to pry so he can give a half-answer. I love Jinwoo but MAN, does he love half-answers. Moeun can learn to be more assertive with what she wants, make her needs known and begin to set boundaries. We had a glimpse of what that could look like for her when she told Seokyung that Jinwoo is not, in fact, alone and that he has her. Both of these things feel doable for these characters (at least, a start on that road), so I have hope that we can still stick the landing next week!
Something about her delivery of the line made it feel like a sword through the heart for me. It just feels like the crux of their problems and I just want them to be happy :(
Feel free to verify this tho, bc math is not something I'm natuarally gifted at! π