i'm sorry but a lot of people here in the comments are acting like freaking saints. you can be angry at moeun…
Thank you! The amount of people in these comments lacking media literacy and basic empathy is concerning. Plus, in their eyes, the fault is entirely with Moeun and not at all with Jinwoo, which after seeing people saying she "went psycho" begins to reek of misogyny. They're both flawed humans but they love one another and want to try again, what's so difficult to grasp? Have a bit of empathy, please! π
was the ending satisfactory? for context I LOVED this drama until ep 9ish, 10 was slow and with the reviews for…
Hi! Personally, I loved and thought it was beautiful, but your mileage may vary, especially if you were thinking it was dragging by that point. However, there's a (or several) trolls going around spreading misogynistic hate in this comment section (writing and answering one another's posts/comments) and one of the usernames is the first commenter on your post here, so take their words with a grain of salt!
Thank you for your ted talk, I agree with you! Honestly, some of these comments are starting to have a whiff of…
The young at least have an excuse for wack behavior, it's worse to see someone who should know better acting immaturely, but it's hard to tell who's who online. I've been lucky enough to interact with some chill people in the comments for this show! It's only after the final episode aired that I started seeing more negativity, mostly stemming from two users (unless they're the same person!), which are mirtamina and Emilia_K.
It's always nice to find like-minded people though, so I'm still glad for your original post! It's a shame trolls zeroed in on it, but your points were solid!
Yeah, but you know, in the real life if someone tells you, I will love you until I hate you, which one day may…
Makes sense! While I'm well away from that age range, I suspect I may be older than many here based on their talking points. At least, old enough for the points I was making to be pulled from life experience. As I scrolled further down the page I clocked the repeating usernames spreading hate, and decided not to interact further (also warning others to not engage further). It's a shame that people choose to interact with media featuring flawed humans but seem unwilling to accept flawed behavior from them. Especially towards female characters. It ends up reeking of misogyny!
Most of you guys are yapping about fl for her behaviour and wishing ml to be with someone else but I think you…
Thank you for your ted talk, I agree with you! Honestly, some of these comments are starting to have a whiff of misogyny, but I've sadly come to expect that from this website. God forbid we depict flawed humans in stories! π (there's a few users being negative en masse and I've already seen them on other posts, including my own, so pay them no mind!)
Yeah, but you know, in the real life if someone tells you, I will love you until I hate you, which one day may…
And who's to say that's not what they're doing in the end?
As you say, love is continually choosing one another. That doesn't mean that difficult times won't come. Their reunion signifies an active choice to be with each other, a better informed choice than the first time around because now they know what the obstacles can look like and are better equiped to handle them. Not all love is forever and nothing is guaranteed (as the commenter above mentioned), we can't see the future and have no idea what the outcome of any given choice will be. People may enter relationships with lots of preparation and the best of intentions and still divorce/separate, and whirlwhind romances may last a lifetime. Thiugh planning for the future is good, you'll drive yourself insane if you spend all your time thinking about the possible outcomes of the relationship (positive or negative) as you're in it and forget to be present. The point is that we have no way of knowing what life will thow at us and the best we can do is try and keep trying for as long as it feels worthwhile.
Yeah, but you know, in the real life if someone tells you, I will love you until I hate you, which one day may…
What's applicable in fiction doesn't necesarily translate to real life and that's fine. I don't tend to take life advice from tv shows. I still think it's a good and compelling story!
As someone who was rooting for a happy ending against all hope I genuinely feel so vindicated. Like, hooray, I'm not insane! And yes, it's a happy ending. They loved one another the entire time, but the time apart allowed them to grow and actively choose one another when the time came, not just be swept up in the initial wave of emotions/conflicts. Moeun's entire monlogue from the play basically alludes to not trying to see the end of a relationship as it begins, but to be with the person and love them as long as the love lasts. That's what they're choosing to do here, and I think it works for this kind of more mature romance (especially with a last minute 'second chance romance' element thrown in). Also, they're pretty clearly together in the final shot (different day, holding hands as they walk off into the metaphorical sunset, etc) so idk why people are saying it's an open ending. An engagement, wedding and/or kids aren't the only ways to show a couple got together in the end. I liked the end, feels very understated but sweet, which fits the vibe of the show!
(Also, here's another trope, 'pair the spares'. I can't be the only one who was rooting for Seokyung and Mr Kwon and thought they were cute together in their final scene!)
it was decent watch but the OST really slapped here. so so good
The OST is fabulous! It takes a good composer to make music for scenes with no speaking that doesn't distract from the dialogue but doesn't just feel like filler ambient noise, either. Whoever they are, I think they did great at balancing that!
I can understand Jin Woo having a difficult time to say I Love You after he was abandoned by his family AND his…
Yeah, I think most of the main characters could benefit from some therapy. I mean, the one thing tying together Jinwoo, Seokyung and the other guy who went to uni with them (I forget his name) is literally having survived a traumatizing event. So basically, anyone who survived the fire should get a free pass to therapy, but then in the case of Jinwoo he already had a lot of baggage prior (being an orphan, his disability etc) and added some more after the breakup. But then again, Seokyung also had family issues AND the stalker situation before the fire and the breakup. She still needs to learn to stop living in the past, or her regrets will drown her.
However, I feel like Moeun has one particular situation that keeps getting overlooked. She knows that the woman who raised her (and, for all intents and purposes, is her mother) is not the woman who birthed her. We are shown that she knows this information, but that her parents don't know she knows. We see that the knowledge left child Moeun with deep insecurities with regards to her place in her family and a fear of abandonment for not 'truly' belonging and not 'really' being her mother's child. I think part of the behavior she's exhibiting now is rooted in that fear of abandonment, the fear that she's not good enough for people to stick around for. Again, both Jinwoo and Moeun need to practice their communicating skills. Sure, there's a language barrier and they both appear to be introverts but I'm rooting for them to find a way!
are you kidding me? He's very handsome and is doing great as Cha Jinwoo. not everything's about looks, "most promising…
Yeah, I personally can't stand the obsession with looks. And anyway, it's unfair to put that kind of pressure on other humans by creating conditions that make them believe beauty is their only export, the only currency worth trading in. The media may be at fault for creating these conditions (well...sorta??? I'm not gonna write a whole thesis here, lol) but fans are guilty of internalizing them and turning them into expectations. Vicious cycles and all that. Putting people on pedestals is never a good idea!
are you kidding me? He's very handsome and is doing great as Cha Jinwoo. not everything's about looks, "most promising…
Imagine having the audacity to imply JWS is not handsome. I'll admit I didn't know him before this show (haven't been watching kdramas for that long, lol) but his acting is one of the things that drew me into the show! He has such expressive eyes! I think a more seasoned actor is a good choice for the role here. (And I'd lie if I said he hasn't made me blush once or twice over the course of the show). People need to stop acting like 30-35 is an expiration date for both looks and skill π
Maybe this is why the drama title is like this dont you think? I didnt watch Jdorama version so Im not sure if…
I haven't watched that movie but I can easily see how, when taken literally, a can of worms could be a *very* bad thing, lol! I meant it more along the lines of wondering whether wanting your disabled partner to do something that may be beyond their range of ability would be considered ableist. It certainly feels like it, so I wouldn't want it in this version of the show since I feel like they've been very tactful in their handling of disabled characters so far and wouldn't want that to be thrown out the window in the last two eps for the sake of cheap melodrama!
It's always nice to find like-minded people though, so I'm still glad for your original post! It's a shame trolls zeroed in on it, but your points were solid!
(there's a few users being negative en masse and I've already seen them on other posts, including my own, so pay them no mind!)
As you say, love is continually choosing one another. That doesn't mean that difficult times won't come. Their reunion signifies an active choice to be with each other, a better informed choice than the first time around because now they know what the obstacles can look like and are better equiped to handle them. Not all love is forever and nothing is guaranteed (as the commenter above mentioned), we can't see the future and have no idea what the outcome of any given choice will be. People may enter relationships with lots of preparation and the best of intentions and still divorce/separate, and whirlwhind romances may last a lifetime. Thiugh planning for the future is good, you'll drive yourself insane if you spend all your time thinking about the possible outcomes of the relationship (positive or negative) as you're in it and forget to be present. The point is that we have no way of knowing what life will thow at us and the best we can do is try and keep trying for as long as it feels worthwhile.
(Also, here's another trope, 'pair the spares'. I can't be the only one who was rooting for Seokyung and Mr Kwon and thought they were cute together in their final scene!)
However, I feel like Moeun has one particular situation that keeps getting overlooked. She knows that the woman who raised her (and, for all intents and purposes, is her mother) is not the woman who birthed her. We are shown that she knows this information, but that her parents don't know she knows. We see that the knowledge left child Moeun with deep insecurities with regards to her place in her family and a fear of abandonment for not 'truly' belonging and not 'really' being her mother's child. I think part of the behavior she's exhibiting now is rooted in that fear of abandonment, the fear that she's not good enough for people to stick around for. Again, both Jinwoo and Moeun need to practice their communicating skills. Sure, there's a language barrier and they both appear to be introverts but I'm rooting for them to find a way!
I meant it more along the lines of wondering whether wanting your disabled partner to do something that may be beyond their range of ability would be considered ableist. It certainly feels like it, so I wouldn't want it in this version of the show since I feel like they've been very tactful in their handling of disabled characters so far and wouldn't want that to be thrown out the window in the last two eps for the sake of cheap melodrama!