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I also thought so before the drama tried to steal from everyone to literally give the highlight to Xiangliu.
They even took Hong jiang's resolve to give to him and his subsequent actions all 'broke' XL's character setting.

From the novel, I thought Xiangliu was cold, proud, and he was willing to follow his foster father into death.
Now the drama showed even Hong Jiang faltering, and for some inexplicable reason, Xiangliu who only joined this rebellion for less than 300 years, was the one who was unshakable in his faith that everyone should 'die on the battlefield'? The same Xiangliu who told Xiaoyao that as long as there is beauty in the world, life is worth living?
I still wonder why this cannot apply to the soldiers of Chenrong. Are they beyond redemption?
And what is worst, instead of being battle ready with his troops Xiangliu is really free to go everywhere to 'help' others.

The drama wanted him to have a hand in finding Tushan Jing, but also absolve XL of keeping Jing for 6 year from Xiaoyao for his own political agenda. That was Xiangliu. He would have stopped at nothing including letting Xiaoyao try to assassinate the clan leaders of Dahuang, including Cangxuan. But in the drama, wow he will give everyone else what they wish for in life! yay! Except poor Fenglong, who had to die as a casualty of his fight.
And that scene where he went Qingshui town alone to lie down on Xiaoliu's bed. What was that about? If he has so many regrets, why did he choose death? When Hong Jiang was unsure, why did he seem so certain of their path?

If the bugs did not turn into heartbreak bugs... why did Xiaoyao have
chronic heartache over Tushan Jing? Now the drama made it even clearer, when she think about him the bugs will backlash and give her a stabbing pain...
It actually made more sense as to why Xiangliu eventually gave up trying to win Xiaoyao, because he knew they became heartache bugs. If he cannot be first, he won't be second. That was his demon's pride.

Especially when in chinese there are 4 worded idioms that have to be a huge chunk of text after being translated because if its done literally sometimes it makes no sense at all... or its some kind of reference to some other existing poem or historical fact... and the beauty of the language also lost after that big chunk lol

Give me a break. This is not fan conspiracy but if you just look at C ent for a few years, its very obvious that is how they deal.
How they work is, who brings in more money to the project, who gets more highlights.
Just look at how badly butchered LYF S2 is, and you know they did a horrible job this time.

Don't have to look too far to see how much TCJ's team places importance on this role, which I think they probably see as a career making role, like how Wei wuxian was for Xiao Zhan. Even the marketing materials for TJC is on a different level, better than even Yangzi, the first billed lead of LYF.

You are the one with misinformation.
"Plus, censorship is going to drool over XL's character because he basically a walking billboard for Confucian thought."

"To Confucius, family relations were key to happiness. In his view, as long as family members are respectful to each other and citizens are respectful to the ruler, the whole society becomes a gigantic family in which everyone is supported and happy."
How is being a rebel general, fighting against the peace, reflecting 'Confucian thought'? Xiangliu's very existence goes against "citizens are respectful to the ruler"...

So Tushan Jing is filial to his grandmother, paying her due respect after her death even after she basically backstabbed him and destroyed his every happiness. Yet you only mock him. But XL's values are to be praised?
Being suicidal and going against 'unity' is great? I bet if the censorboard take a closer look they are going to think XL is not their poster boy at all. let me tell you, I don't think their country likes the idea of 'resistance' being beautiful.

"XY's true love was always been XL" you can keep lying to yourselves about that.Even the so called 'lovers bugs' proved that they were heartbreak bugs in the end. I really don't know how you can just pretend that XY and XL didn't have heartache because of backlash.

But seeing what you write, I am hardly surprised.

FYI Tushan Jing is the one who actually risked the wrath of both the Xiyan kings to bring Xiaoyao to Haoling for closure about her mother, because he noticed she was still suffering over knowing the truth of her birth secret.

Jing was the one supposed to meet her mother in the burning desert with the King of haoling and Xiaoyao, and get her blessings to be with Xiaoyao.

In the end, the drama half-assed the entire arc, and even Cangxuan got to go pay his respects, while Jing, with his botched big proposal, can't even pay his respects at all.

XL is 'squeezed in' because TJC has backers and the team even steal Jing's lines for him. Eg comforting words like ' we can't choose our parents' belonged to Jing. So while you all ooh and aah at how great XL is, and how boring Jing is, its because all his moments are taken away.
Even his fight scene with Hou was supposed to last longer than 5 minutes and way cooler with 9 tailed foxes fighting tiger leaping around in mist...

Looks like many people who bash Jing don't even know how biased the team is against him and how much is taken away.

I didn't say its a bad translation.
But koala mistranslates many of the flowers that TH gave special meaning to especially for yaojing- like osmanthus, the mujin flower etc so that the meanings are lost on the fans who read it.

She also mistranslated some important lines which lead to misleading about the relationship between Xiaoyao and xiangliu... recalling offhand its that scene where Xiaoyao thinks back to qingshui town ...

Its too bad that such a successful IP has not been translated officially and we still need to rely on free fan translated version. I don't look down on her translation and I recommend to others. But its good to give note that it does in fact have errors.

The drama team rewrote so much and took so much important arcs from Jing, its really criminal. Especially how after it aired, so many antis even step all over his character precisely because of what they did to his character.

Jing was the main driving force for Xiaoyao to get her closure with her mother. In the end he was relegated to being just a background extra. His proposal was beautiful, which would have boosted the 'romance' for yaojing, but the team axed it and made XY botch it. So much so that even when the final arc when Xiaoyao chose to marry him on the full moon, was lost because Jing was the one who picked the date in the first place.

Even in the end, after Jing returned, he also forgave Cangxuan for helping Hou kill him and told Xiaoyao not to blame herself. Everything good about him was just erased from the drama.

The team even made use of Jing to try to convince us that what the Chenrong rebels are fighting for 'made sense' with that extra scene. I still don't agree in their fight still. It was still a blatant waste of lives as far as I am concerned.

heheh your last line... yeah Xuanlong ship is sailing far stronger than yaoliu ship.. at least Fenglong could die for Cangxuan... meantime Xiangliu only chose Hongjiang and his men over Xiaoyao...

Its so ironic because those people moaning about how the great things Xiangliu did but not known or acknowledged by Xiaoyao and how unfair it all is, but they mock the very character who suffered at the hands of the LYF production team, who had to literally donate his dialogue, his scenes, even his plot points in the LYF story so that Xiangliu, who initially didn't have as much screen time, have things to do and say.

This loud few always claim to 'see the things that is not there' but they have already precisely fallen into what the production team wanted them to see and think, by negatively influencing the audience and successfully manipulating them to think that even the 'special supporting role' is now even better than the male lead, Cangxuan.

See, money talks in C ent. Its funny how some still can pretend that a certain actor didn't manage to get more ( illogical ) scenes added for his role, or benefit from the best CG in the entire series.
Even the fight scene between our two leads looked so silly because it was confined into one room, instead of being an epic air battle where Xiaoyao shoots at Cangxuan's flying mount.

What the drama team did not expect, is many of the audience are already old novel fans, or new drama fans who have read the novel before the S2 aired. So we know what they did, and its not pretty.

Please do read the novel, but do note that the only translation is biased towards Xiangliu as well and there are many mistakes that will weaken the understanding of TH's original intentions, especially about the flowers mentioned in LYF.
You can ask us if you wonder about anything, I love to discuss about the novel anytime.

LMAO my friend if I ever get to write that BL fic, I will msg you HAHAHAHAHAH

Read the novel before you make such claims please.

The China audience are not stupid. They know when a story has gone out the window and manipulative marketing is being done. S2 adaptation was really adapted half heartedly and undisguised bias that made what was actually on screen even more unwatchable.
I could rewatch S1 but I really doubt I can rewatch S2.

Firstly, the fangfeng siblings are the ones who are coming into break up what was an original CP - Xiaoliu and Shiqi.

Really unbelievable how you all twisted your facts just to look legit?
FFYY loves Tushan Hou and not Tushan Jing. She was in fact going to trap Jing just to gain a status position for herself and her clan.
I suppose your morals root for such gold digging aspirations since you seem so bent on defending FFYY's 'rights' as Mrs Tushan when she had not even been officially married? Enough to even accuse of Xiaoyao being a third party when FFYY is the third party since she's not even in love with Jing.

And my argument is not that Xiaoyao is married.
My issue was always because Xiangliu always only do questionable touching to her while she is unconscious.
Sure your argument is : he loves her so much and he doesn't want her to know! But I can say the same for any stalker of any woman.
Does it mean when a man loves this woman, or he did alot for her, he is now 'qualified' to do that? Please think hard before you jump to Xiangliu's defense here.

If she and the man does not have this 'understanding', even a close friend holding, sniffing, kissing any part of a woman's body IS A BIG NO!

Do you get it??

Aren't you also gloating that people have blocked you?
You can't handle people who didn't block you?

How is it a mistress when Jing was not married yet? You guys are really great at twisting issues aren't you?

Excuse me?
I am trying to do a PSA where someone with a 'legal' background like you is deliberately misleading others.

Anytime a man who is not a husband/lover, touches a woman inappropriately when she is UNCONSCIOUS ( some cases even if its the spouse - it can still be illegal btw ), you telling me that is not sexual misconduct? Xiangliu bowed out but he still can't 'help' himself from touching a woman who, while she was conscious, clearly told him hands off.

So lame of you to make this a fandom issue when many of us are clearly talking about behaviorial issues in-drama?

FYI things that used to be 'romantic' have fallen out of public acceptance.Take Korean dramas for example, it used to be 'hot' when the male lead grabs the female lead by her arm/wrist and dragging them away against their will. These days, its no longer acceptable and writers avoid such scenarios.

Why don't you wake up from your stupor over simping over a fictional character who used to be cool in the novel but was degraded into a sappy lovesick sad man so that he can try to get more sympathy points from the audience? Not everyone needs to buy into this 'romantic' moment when its clearly NOT. This moment was not in the novel, how surprising that it should be written this way just to make some questionable people swoon.

Gaslighting others for having opinions is also not reflecting well on your toxic fandom.

There are so many radical plot changes that its not possible to say in just one post
But if you ever have a chance, read the novel for yourself, its waaay better.

XL looked the best for a reason. The budget that goes into his scenes is clearly exceeding even that for the big female lead. Even adding strange ooc scenes just to increase his screentime, inserting in suddenly that by the end just made me laugh every time he popped up.
So much money and influence pulled to ensure this. Even the romance for the main CP had massive story plot changes and watered down so much just to ensure his sad 'loveline' can still tug at audience heartstrings.

The drama version might come back to visit? She didn't seem like she was leaving for good since this alternate version Cangxuan was not the scary 'I will kill your husband' version of her novel counterpart.
In novel, would you dare to go back when your 'brother' might still try to kill your husband?

Legal background and probably female and you stand on the wrong side just because of your blind loyalty to a 2d character LOOOOL

Why is it an ultimate fail? Why don't you have something solid to say instead of always just talking with a mocking tone and trying to come across as being more superior than others?

So loud and annoying!! They even attack fellow Xiangliu fans... such a weird group of people