If in the first two ep it really has glorified those who killed innocent people then for now I'm going to keep…
after the first 2 episodes i am so confused as to how people are still claiming that the drama is distorting history or glorifying the NSA. both episodes paint the NSA in a terrible light, the politicians, the wives obsessed with status, the NSA breaking into the girls dorm and risking student safety, threatening the headmistress with a gun for simply asking for a warrant, the protest scene that showed tear gas and NSA agents beating people with sticks all of these scenes show how the NSA is evil. even young ro's roomate said something about the NSA calling all protestors communists and falsely arresting and killing protestors. so how are people still claiming that the NSA is being glorified?? i keep seeing comments saying the drama is distorting history but no one is commenting actual evidence from the 2 episodes we have. i am so genuinely confused and just want someone to actually clarify and point out specific scenes where history is distorted. also i am not trying to come across as angry i jsut keep commenting the same thing and nobody has been able to give me a clear answer
It is sad to see people trying to justify this drama...i feel bad for the actual victims, this drama is pure disgusting…
i have read that twitter thread multiple times and i understand the korean public's concerns, however, after the first 2 episodes i am so confused as to how people are still claiming that the drama is distorting history or glorifying the NSA. both episodes paint the NSA in a terrible light, the politicians, the wives obsessed with status, the NSA breaking into the girls dorm and risking student safety, threatening the headmistress with a gun for simply asking for a warrant, the protest scene that showed tear gas and NSA agents beating people with sticks all of these scenes show how the NSA is evil. even young ro's roomate said something about the NSA calling all protestors communists and falsely arresting and killing protestors. so how are people still claiming that the NSA is being glorified?? i keep seeing comments saying the drama is distorting history but no one is commenting actual evidence from the 2 episodes we have. i am so genuinely confused and just want someone to actually clarify and point out specific scenes where history is distorted. also i am not trying to come across as angry i jsut keep commenting the same thing and nobody has been able to give me a clear answer. can you please point out the specific scenes in the first 2 episodes that glorify the NSA or distort the history
It doesn't just make people uncomfortable, it distorts a one whole country history.
i have read that twitter thread multiple times and i understand the korean public's concerns, however, after the first 2 episodes i am so confused as to how people are still claiming that the drama is distorting history or glorifying the NSA. both episodes paint the NSA in a terrible light, the politicians, the wives obsessed with status, the NSA breaking into the girls dorm and risking student safety, threatening the headmistress with a gun for simply asking for a warrant, the protest scene that showed tear gas and NSA agents beating people with sticks all of these scenes show how the NSA is evil. even young ro's roomate said something about the NSA calling all protestors communists and falsely arresting and killing protestors. so how are people still claiming that the NSA is being glorified?? i keep seeing comments saying the drama is distorting history but no one is commenting actual evidence from the 2 episodes we have. i am so genuinely confused and just want someone to actually clarify and point out specific scenes where history is distorted. also i am not trying to come across as angry i jsut keep commenting the same thing and nobody has been able to give me a clear answer
the person who wrote this drama & the famous actos who chose to act in this drama are all sick ( i can forgive…
i have read the twitter thread multiple times and i understand the korean public's concerns, however, after the first 2 episodes i am so confused as to how people are still claiming that the drama is distorting history or glorifying the NSA. both episodes paint the NSA in a terrible light, the politicians, the wives obsessed with status, the NSA breaking into the girls dorm and risking student safety, threatening the headmistress with a gun for simply asking for a warrant, the protest scene that showed tear gas and NSA agents beating people with sticks all of these scenes show how the NSA is evil. even young ro's roomate said something about the NSA calling all protestors communists and falsely arresting and killing protestors. so how are people still claiming that the NSA is being glorified?? i keep seeing comments saying the drama is distorting history but no one is commenting actual evidence from the 2 episodes we have. i am so genuinely confused and just want someone to actually clarify and point out specific scenes where history is distorted. also i am not trying to come across as angry i jsut keep commenting the same thing and nobody has been able to give me a clear answer
After reading this Twitter thread I completely understand why this show is problematic: https://mobile.twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1471205914174967808The…
i have read that twitter thread multiple times and i understand the korean public's concerns, however, after the first 2 episodes i am so confused as to how people are still claiming that the drama is distorting history or glorifying the NSA. both episodes paint the NSA in a terrible light, the politicians, the wives obsessed with status, the NSA breaking into the girls dorm and risking student safety, threatening the headmistress with a gun for simply asking for a warrant, the protest scene that showed tear gas and NSA agents beating people with sticks all of these scenes show how the NSA is evil. even young ro's roomate said something about the NSA calling all protestors communists and falsely arresting and killing protestors. so how are people still claiming that the NSA is being glorified?? i keep seeing comments saying the drama is distorting history but no one is commenting actual evidence from the 2 episodes we have. i am so genuinely confused and just want someone to actually clarify and point out specific scenes where history is distorted. also i am not trying to come across as angry i jsut keep commenting the same thing and nobody has been able to give me a clear answer
after the first 2 episodes i am so confused as to how people are still claiming that the drama is distorting history or glorifying the NSA. both episodes paint the NSA in a terrible light, the politicians, the wives obsessed with status, the NSA breaking into the girls dorm and risking student safety, threatening the headmistress with a gun for simply asking for a warrant, the protest scene that showed tear gas and NSA agents beating people with sticks all of these scenes show how the NSA is evil. even young ro's roomate said something about the NSA calling all protestors communists and falsely arresting and killing protestors. so how are people still claiming that the NSA is being glorified?? i keep seeing comments saying the drama is distorting history but no one is commenting actual evidence from the 2 episodes we have. EVERYONE KEEPS COMMENTING THE SAME TWITTER THREAD OVER AND OVER INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY POINTING OUT SPECIFIC SCENES WHERE THE SHOW DISTORTS HISTORY/GLORIFIES THE NSA. i am so genuinely confused and just want someone to actually clarify and point out specific scenes where history is distorted. also i am not trying to come across as angry i jsut keep commenting the same thing and nobody has been able to give me a clear answer
Okay now that the evidence is there with the first ep they should cancel it.
hi i don't mean to be rude i am just genuinely wondering what evidence you are talking about? after the first episode i personally see the NSA as evil and the bad guys. first of all, all of the politicans seem very evil. second, you can see how the NSA doesn't care about the publics safety. this is seen when young ro's roommate goes to one of the protests and they tear gas her and the other protestors and then start beating them with sticks. this scene defintiely makes the NSA look like the bad guys. we also see the NSA's diregard for student safety when they break into the female dorm and just start ransacking the place looking for sooho and they don't even leave after the headmistress asks for a warrant. also seung jo's character who everyone said was "a hero who caught the bad guys" literally himself was being a bad guy the entire episode. he literally threatened the headmistress to arrest or maybe even kill her for not letting them search the droms without a warrant. we can also see the girls revolting against the NSA because they help sooho who they think is just a peaceful protestor who got wounded by the NSA. after watching the first episode i have been genuinely confused as to why people are still claiming that it's glorifying the NSA so please comment back and tell me what evidence you saw. i hope my comment doesn't come off as rude i am just genuinely wondering and want to be better educated on the matter.
a good starting point is this person's threads:https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1471205914174967808https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1472435661978632192
yeah that is why i am confused because i didn't really see any historical distortion and yet there's a new petition being signed to get the show off air. i definitely will keep watching with the history in mind, i do agree koreans know more about the history than i ever will so i definitely will listen to their opinions and have an open mind with every episode.
a good starting point is this person's threads:https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1471205914174967808https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1472435661978632192
actually in the first episode there is a protest, one of young ros roomates actually goes to, and in the episode we see them get tear gased. we also see the NSA agents beat the protestors and chase them down. this shows how bad the NSA is and how they are hurting peaceful protestors. young ro also talks about how her brother was arrested for being a protestor which further shows that the NSA was bad. the thread says they leave activist students alone but they literally dont. this is a perfect example of why comments like these shouldnt be made before the drama airs because we clearly do see students being traumatized by the NSA. also when young ros friend is at the protest young ro and the other roomates worry about her because they knoww aht the NSA is capable of and that they hurt people and students. also to my understanding we don't know if sooho is a spy yet i believe so the NSA may be just framing an innocent student which is historically accurate to what they did
a good starting point is this person's threads:https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1471205914174967808https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1472435661978632192
i guess that’s understandable but i feel like the first episode does an actual good job at showing why the NISis bad. i understand what the person in the thread is saying about the character descriptions but tbh i didn’t even like the agent guy who worked for the NIS and i HATED all the politicians. so isn’t that a good thing? doesn’t that mean the show is doing a good job at saying the NIS was very evil
a good starting point is this person's threads:https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1471205914174967808https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1472435661978632192
i’ve read the threads and i’m still s confused because after watching the first episode i didn’t feel like the NIS was being romanticized so i’m confused what the problem is
posting this again because nobody commented last time but please comment and express your point of view!!
im really confused as to why people are sayig this drama romanticiezs the NIS and is disrespectful to victims who grew up in SK in the 80's. i am from the US so obviously i don't know SK's history but i have tried educating myself a bit more on the topic and i've read knets comments who disapprove of the drama to see a different pov on the matter. after watching the first episode, i don't see how the drama romanticizes the NIS at all. after the first episode i personally see the NIS, jung yoojins character, and jang seung jos character as a bad organization. i also see the politicians as evil too, so idk why people are saying the drama romanticizes the NIS. also one of young ros roomates was at the protest for socialism and democracy which i loved and rooted for! when she came back to the dorm i was worried for her and thought she'd get caught or something. i also feel like the show makes the audience want to sympathize with young ro and her brother who was arrested for protesting. omg also the headmistress refusing to let the NIS search the dorm also made me feel like the show isn't giving power to the NIS. personally i dont think sooho is a north korean spy but just protests the current korean governement and that he might be at risk of being framed by the NIS for being a spy which is what the organization actually did. i think this aspect of the show is also meant to make the audience dislike the NIS. again, idk SK history so my comment may just be completely wrong so just know i'm not writing it to shut down claims about history distortion. if anyone knows SK history and could explain the history distortion claims and NIS romanticization i'd greatly appreciate it. also please dont attack me for this comment this is just what i've pieced together after watching the first episode.
There's some part that she still need to work it on but as a rookie artist, she doing sooo sooo great tho portraying…
yeah i agree!! people keep ignoring that she literally auditioned and beat out other actors and just say she got the role because of her popularity. i also just feel like the director isn't one to cast people based off popularity. the writers also worked on sky castle so this drama would have immense hype regardless whether jisoo was in it or not. i def think she earned her role!
idk but I still don't consider IU as a great actress even after hotel del luna. She's popular and pretty and she…
it's your preference whether or not you like IU's acting but it's a fact that people started hyping up her acting career way more after hotel del luna and stopped seeing her as another idol actress. i will say i disagree that the storyline and other actors helped carry her. i think her character was very similar to moon young from it's okay to not be okay and yea ji got immense praise for that role. in my opinion both IU and yea ji portrayed similar characters equally in terms of acting.
i do agree it is unfair if an idol gets a role over someone else because of their popularity, but jisoo auditioned for the role like everybody else. people are acting as if the director called YG and asked to cast jisoo just because shes famous. in the presscon the director also said he was having trouble figuring out who young ro was and went through so many auditions before jisoo, but she brought the character to life for him. i guess you could argue that he's just saying that for the cameras but at that point that's just being spiteful and discrediting him and jisoo. and i understand that this is a debut role for jisoo but i don't understand why that means she needs to be compared to her castmates just because they have experience on her. like for example in the US say there's a new movie coming out with like a huge movie star like leonardo dicaprio and an a new actor. in the US nobody would compare the new actor to leonardo dicaprio in terms of who debuted and who's a veteran, but in the kdrama world this happens all the time and i just don't get why lol. like i feel like in the US if an actor is bad they will get called out for it but if they aren't bad then they'll get praised, whereas with kdramas even if the actor isn't bad they will still get compared. idk if this makes the most sense in writing but i'm trying my best to explain what im thinking. also what you said about compairng differences in ability to portray micro-expressions, that again just feels so nitpicky to me. like obviously an actor wouldn't be good if youre nitpicking every single microexpression and comparing to every single cast mate in every single scene. thank you for your explanation tho!!
why do people who watch kdramas care so much about acting?? i've never seen comments like this under any american tv shows. people here are nitpicking every single scene that jisoo was in and are comparing her to the rest of the cast. also, why do people care so much if someone is a rookie or veteran actor?? again, in the US we never compare these things. i've seen so many comments comparing jisoos acting to her castmates and i just don't get it. these are all different characters that are portrayed differently by the actor playing them!! jisoo is playing her role of young ro perfectly well in my eyes. idk why people are comparing her protrayal of happy bubbly young ro to other characters like boon ok or sooho, THEY ARE ALL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTERS. like i feel like with american tv shows if an actor is bad then they are clearly bad and people make a fuss about it but jisoo is in no way acting bad. people are holding her to the standard of her castmates and that just makes no sense. i've seen this with other rookie actors, especially idol actors. when IU first started acting there was an entire frenzy about her and so much hate. but now after Hotel Del Luna everyone praises her acting skills.
im really confused as to why people are sayig this drama romanticiezs the NIS and is disrespectful to victims who grew up in SK in the 80's. i am from the US so obviously i don't know SK's history but i have tried educating myself a bit more on the topic and i've read knets comments who disapprove of the drama to see a different pov on the matter. after watching the first episode, i don't see how the drama romanticizes the NIS at all. after the first episode i personally see the NIS, jung yoojins character, and jang seung jos character as a bad organization. i also see the politicians as evil too, so idk why people are saying the drama romanticizes the NIS. also one of young ros roomates was at the protest for socialism and democracy which i loved and rooted for! when she came back to the dorm i was worried for her and thought she'd get caught or something. i also feel like the show makes the audience want to sympathize with young ro and her brother who was arrested for protesting. omg also the headmistress refusing to let the NIS search the dorm also made me feel like the show isn't giving power to the NIS. personally i dont think sooho is a north korean spy but just protests the current korean governement and that he might be at risk of being framed by the NIS for being a spy which is what the organization actually did. i think this aspect of the show is also meant to make the audience dislike the NIS. again, idk SK history so my comment may just be completely wrong so just know i'm not writing it to shut down claims about history distortion. if anyone knows SK history and could explain the history distortion claims and NIS romanticization i'd greatly appreciate it. also please dont attack me for this comment this is just what i've pieced together after watching the first episode.
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im really confused as to why people are sayig this drama romanticiezs the NIS and is disrespectful to victims who grew up in SK in the 80's. i am from the US so obviously i don't know SK's history but i have tried educating myself a bit more on the topic and i've read knets comments who disapprove of the drama to see a different pov on the matter. after watching the first episode, i don't see how the drama romanticizes the NIS at all. after the first episode i personally see the NIS, jung yoojins character, and jang seung jos character as a bad organization. i also see the politicians as evil too, so idk why people are saying the drama romanticizes the NIS. also one of young ros roomates was at the protest for socialism and democracy which i loved and rooted for! when she came back to the dorm i was worried for her and thought she'd get caught or something. i also feel like the show makes the audience want to sympathize with young ro and her brother who was arrested for protesting. omg also the headmistress refusing to let the NIS search the dorm also made me feel like the show isn't giving power to the NIS. personally i dont think sooho is a north korean spy but just protests the current korean governement and that he might be at risk of being framed by the NIS for being a spy which is what the organization actually did. i think this aspect of the show is also meant to make the audience dislike the NIS. again, idk SK history so my comment may just be completely wrong so just know i'm not writing it to shut down claims about history distortion. if anyone knows SK history and could explain the history distortion claims and NIS romanticization i'd greatly appreciate it. also please dont attack me for this comment this is just what i've pieced together after watching the first episode.