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I never said that chen yi led tuli on. But chen yi was also wanting to be in fake relationship to push away his admirers. U can't just say that only tuli wanted to be there. And just because she is fake gf doesn't mean she don't deserve a proper closure. And just because she is fake gf and chen yi said to miao jing that he has gf although fake and although sus, she should have avoided flirting with him romantically unless he says he is single. It's a grey area for me. I have this problem and i am not imposing my opinion to anyone. I am just stating that I didn't liked how this whole situation was handled.

About miao jing someone replied to me that if she would have revealed their history it would look as it coming from a bad faith. So i get that point. But i never said that i wanted miao jing to feed on tuli's delulu. Infact I wanted opposite. I wanted tuli to know the truth and get a closure so that she can move on.

Miao jing shopping thing disappointed me. That's it. She should have said " she asked me and I agreed to come." To cool down the atmosphere that time. I didn't asked much.

This is my preference that i don't like if a man is committed or pretending to be committed and the girl is flirting with him. Want something new then clear old baggage. Again it's my preference. My moral standard.

Where i like miao jing i liked her. Where i hate chen yi I hated him. Or vice versa. I don't have beef with any of the characters.

I get it girl. I am just overly emo about this whole situation of tuli getting hurt. Afterall she is innocent here. 😕

And i am not saying that u defended her actions. But i am tired of people not seeing that tuli was wronged. I get her she was in fault to fall for a wrong guy. But miao jing did saw her while doing her nails that she is insecure. She did said "do I count" and tuli said " obviously u don't" but she should have said that they had history. And that shopping thing I was already disappointed with her. Am not saying that she deserves hate or she is perfect or without flaw. I just felt bad for tuli.

Sometimes it's not about who is responsible for explanation. Sometimes it's more about u are seeing a person getting hurt and it's nothing secret that she can't say. So she should have told her as a girl, as a human being.

But i blame chen yi here. Everything here is about cen ye and miao jing. But why we are forgetting that chen yi also hurted tuli. The way he talk to her is not nice. And that hurts.

Why we always want our love to be good to ourselves only? We should want our love to treat others also with care. Just that with us make us feel special. I don't like the idea of one person not talking nicely with other or don't feel responsible for an explanation just because that person is not his love interest or his real gf.

I felt bad that he one day just said let's not continue fake relationship without explaining his side to tuli. U know what's more hurtful is? A person suddenly acting badly towards u or unilaterally breaking of an agreement. He didn't even said that in future he will help her if she needed any help. He just said now that ur shop is there u don't need my help. He didn't even said let's be friends. It's hurtful.

That's it. If miao jing and cen ye thing is hurting both cen ye and chen yi then chen yi is hurting tuli. And the fact that here people are not even talking about this and only focusing on cen ye thing looks unfair to me. It's not for u. It's more about why to start something new u need to hurt someone without ending things properly. That's it.

He truly didn't hold back. That scene was so good but now that i think of chen yi should have told tuli properly that he can't continue and will help her in future of she needs him ever but she is already interested in miao jing that's it. A simple communication. But here chenyi is hurting tuli and the way he talks to her. I mean I get it why bht still.

Edit:- my problem is why this fake relationship can't get ended before starting anything new? Why to hurt an innocent?

Did tuli was given clarification that why chen to is suddenly asking her to break off their fake relationship? No. Did miao jing despite having suspension of their fake relationship ever thought how it looks and how insecure tuli is when he is asking why chen yi is acting strange and if he is seeing a girl? Can't she understand a girl's condition? Can't she step in when chen yi was angry with tuli to take miao jing to shopping? Can't she say..." Ok she asked and I came on my own with my own will?" To calm things down? Where was that girl who used to be mature? Yes her abandonment fear is valid but that doesn't mean she will put another women in uncomfortable position. So she also ain't saint.

Ep16, things finally is moving ahead with these two. When chen yi was carrying miao jing on his back i was smiling.

But why all these has to come with tuli getting treated like this. Yes they were in fake relationship but tuli has already started liking him. Ig somewhere she thought their whole fake relationship will be a win win situation. She will get strong backup and he will push away his admirers. She knew atleast this way she can be close to him and call him bf and who knows maybe one day he started falling for her. Also she was sure if she will play this fake thing she will know when chen yi is actually interested in other girl. And she did noticed. She already understood that chen yi is pulling himself away and he can be interested in other girl which is the case now that miao jing is back and ice is breaking.

I hate that tuli is not aware that the person she is painting nails on and talking to her is actually not his "mei mei" but his "xiao mei mei" or love interest. She is asking her unaware that chen yi is in love with her. I felt bad. The way chen yi was talking was also bad. I felt like yes she fell in love with a wrong guy but she can get clarity from him and she can move on after getting closure. This sudden abrupt of the fake relationship anyone would think what really happened. And chen yi did thought of himself purely i liked it but the way he handled things didn't sit right to me.

Miao jing was not aware of his fake relationship so why she flirted or even made jokes "are u falling for me again" things? She ain't girls girl in this case. I didn't like her in this.

Huh? Am I not clear enough what I am saying? I am saying him to just give apology and take accountability of his actions. Simple.he can always reform himself and come back. I literally said if he comes after getting sensitised I will watch him again in screen. What are u on about? Why would I want him to loose everything? A person who think like this does not comment on a child's mental health and show concern. Please read my comments carefully before making any remarks. Don't come on me baseless.

I just said that drama has already suffered and people will have mix feelings while watching this because of scandal. And I just said some people even in future will not prefer to watch him( lot of don't) it's a fact. I never said that i include myself in it.

It's a very serious topic. And I will not tolerate any remarks which I have never said or meant. And i literally posted while growing up i saw injustice and I never knew it was wrong that time. U can check the posts in this thread only above. So ur point whether I have done nothing wrong is something i already acknowledged here. I ain't no saint. I am again saying I never wished a kid's sufferability. I even said terminating or banning him from GMMTV was harsh on him.

U can verify urself. Or if u are not bothered to do so atleast Don't make baseless remarks on me.

If u are looking for romance drama and u are expecting this then sadly u are going to get disappointed. Because I think these days dramas are catering to female audiences more. Generally in female audience these are highly appreciated.

Sadly, even in wuxia dramas these have become a theme like PoJ. There are rarely a wuxia drama that are coming whose focus is not on these. Earlier it was in huge nos. Last wuxia without much romance i heard was the litchi road.

But u can try xiao fang. It recently aired.so far it's good. It's more on comedic side. Or u need to shift to thriller dramas.

Because mostly again i am saying mostly people prefer fluffy drama that NES gave but LFY is not fluffy. Second i think most people if i read review dropped in the later ep or have negative review because of heavy rely on auditing and cen ye and the whole mother arc in the drama.

And please let's be real here when u have ever seen a drama which is not fairy tale types to have good reviews? I see only 12 letters and first frost as exception here. Plus there is also a thing that most people prefer yearning as romance. If u have a ML or FL that is in yearning despite being uncertain future it's seen as more loyal and romantic. So yeah.

I am not calling them as wrong. People have different preferences. For them this is not a 9-10 drama. But for some it's that.

NES was the drama as I heard didn't do well in China because one of the reason was whole Gaokao thing. They thought if u pass and get into top universities then u get so much appreciation and state funded money that FL financial issues would have been resolved. So they didn't found FL as relatable and NES has some things that doesn't make sense. But since overall drama was so beautiful( like first cp dancing in a party) that it gives u butterfly. Which was slightly toned down in LFY( like ML carrying FL or just collecting scraps with her). So internationally NES has done well than LFY.

Edit- Also there also comes the fact when an international person watches a drama that person don't usually care much about relatability and how china and their society, their organisations work. So the focus is mostly on story. But when a resident of China watches and see that oh they have shown how things actually work in China and more relatable to them they like that drama more.

Again what can u expect anything from a businessman? They will save themselves and their company. They don't care about anything.

Series has already suffered. Views will definitely get impacted. Whether GMMTV do anything or not doesn't matter. Damage is done..

Actually I agree they should be given training on these things. But before that it's about Justin's core beliefs. To mitigate- it needs to be taught in our school, in our society because till this date people are having hard time in understanding these topics. Our society still can't talk about homophobia without stigmatisation. Our schools and env needs to be aware of these topics. That way kids will automatically understand that this is wrong from start. Production houses can add another layer.

Tbh i think even after Justin comes back most people will still not watch him and that's understandable. So in short Justin's acting career is very uncertain.

But i care less about that. I care more about that child. Simple. Yes take future actions to avoid these kind of issues. But that child has a lot on his plate.

Actually u are wrong. I am not lenient with GMMTV. Its opposite. I think all production houses are same. All business are same. They only care about profit. They don't care about anything. So i don't expect anything from them. Because they never even supported Leng when people were bashing him out. People were threatening him simply because he got paired with Ohm. And that person had to take a break from acting and my god i still think about how much he would have suffered. So when GMMTV can't take a stand for its own artists when they are no where wrong then I must be a fool to think here GMMTV will show any maturity in handling things.

Hmm. That kid needs a proper guidance that's all I can say. Rest it's upto him. But this would be heavy on him as well. Criticisng on wrong things is definitely ok just I am concerned about him. Getting this much hate and seeing whole world against him I fear if that child instead of reflecting himself and improving himself would go under depression. Because even as an adult sometimes it becomes too much for us also. He should definitely apologise for these and take a break to process and understand what's happening and what to do further to improve himself.Let's hope for his best.

Actually I am ok with GMMTV terminate his contract. Somewhere he needs to take accountability. By this he will understand that one cannot see him in screen with this attitude. Later if he reform himself then we are ready to see him. Afterall he ain't Chris Wu( taking an example of a person who even after completing his jail sentence i will never watch him)Idk if cancel means he can never work with GMMTV or what? Because that's slightly tuff on him. But u can't blame GMMTV. They need to show that they don't support these. And keeping him would be a question on GMMTV itself considering that production house produces LGBTQIA+ content.

Yes, that's y i am saying he needs to get education. I remember one time when I was at school I saw something so unjust I just felt uneasy on my heart. But I didn't knew why? Because even my teachers were making fun of that student. Years later i understood why i felt uneasy that day. And i literally cried a lot for days. I even vomited because I saw an unjust thing in front of me and I was 13 that time. I didn't understood what is happening around me. That's why I still think he can reform himself.

I am definitely agreeing here whether he is celebrity or not these are not ok. And ig it's a fact that he became popular that's why this thing came into light otherwise it wouldn't. But the fact remains same it's wrong.

I get u. These are not ok topics he would have encountered with that. But it's also a fact that AI has already proven to show u what u search. There was a huge controversy of biasedness and showing suicide contents to a person who have already suicidal thoughts and have searched it. U can't rely on social media much to teach u this.

There comes society as the institution to teach u these topics. Sure, u are right to point out that his parents would have taught him about these and his teachers. But ig either he didn't understood it properly or he listened that this is wrong and still his mind told him to agree on these beliefs. I don't want to think about second option. As that would be a huge claim to even think about.

Either way I still think he needs to reform himself through education and guidance and sensitisation of these issues. Additionally it would be better if he somehow meet who are the victims of these issues. It will give him more insight.

He surely needs to take accountability for these. But considering his age I think it's possible to mend his core values. It's not too late. He needs to focus on him being a good and empathic person.

😅😂 seems like tedious work after my work. But anyhow whatever happened is so sad.

But sometimes u don't search these. It automatically comes in ur feed. I remember one day after clearing cache and browsing data i encountered with one video of andrew tate when I didn't even knew him. So it doesn't hold good in all times.

But i am really concerned about that kid. Even if he get all these beliefs from social media then it's so sad that in fast moving world we can't hold tiktok responsible for these things when it has already started to influence kids. It's not a good start. Plus we can't even control the content as there is no slabs for kids, 18+ or mature contents like u have for movies. Even Netflix has child account option to contain this. But tiktok has none. I maybe wrong as I have never used tiktok.

Also, that kid need to learn how these topics are sensitive and what is the reality. He needs to learn ethics and morality. I am little bit concern if that child is in contact with anyone or has seen anything like this in his life so as to believe these. He needs education. And that can be given. Let's hope he become a better person in future. Afterall he is just a kid. Not defying his actions but he should be given chance to improve himself. Before that it's good that he got fired from GMMTV. He can focus on his education and before an actor he can become a good person. But he definitely should apologise for now. Sad.

These are heavy accusations. Pro trump posts i still understand considering their age they might not have understanding of geopolitics or how one decision shapes the whole world. But other accusations? Those can't be defended even with age. Nope.

But what i am curious about does tiktok really have no regulations against the posting and resposting of these topics? Is tiktok that unregulated? And really these kind of contents are available in tiktok id surprising to me.
I am genuinely surprised because I have never used tiktok in my life as in my country tiktok is banned.

Edit:- was he not aware what he was doing? I mean generally we get the sensitisation of these topics and the reality and impact these crimes left behind in our schools and in our surroundings. And that's scary. Because Justin is popular so it came into light but he also could be influenced from what he is seeing or learning from his surroundings or internet specially tiktok. Idk what to even say.

Woww..this page suddenly blew up but I am still confused what is whole issue with Justin? What in the world has happened

Ep15, someone please help me in understanding why auditing team will do audit for another company? Unless there is a sus going on? And also why a third party auditing team will do anything? Is it because they are trying to go public? And govt or state province has hired a third company on contract to look up for the audits if they are clear Before going public?

Also, the company they are auditing for is a logistics company and so i am not understanding the mention of smuggling in this case. Unless zhang bin is using logistics network to smuggle the counterfeit liquor and maybe drugs from his another business of billiards bar.

Also, yes chen yi has connections but what he did to have connections? And what he is famous for in country jin? What he did in overseas? God this suspense.

Makes sense