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Ik i am being biased here. Yan xiao should not have hit GJZ. But i think i guess where he is coming from. All his life he is constantly hearing from everyone that he is born with heart illness so he can't become marquis then when GJZ said that that he does nothing with his life. It's like putting oil in the fire. I mean those carrying weapons and always trying new modifications somehow shows that he didnt want this life. He want to fight and become someone.

Also why the whole world is so obsessed with Yan xiao not able to become marquis and carry his family lineage? Does heart illness means it's the end of the world as people constantly portraying in the drama. Why it's not that people who understand his pov or empathize with him instead of giving him scars to carry?

GJZ also assumed that he chose this life and he is really dumb. Just because she at the age of 15 is intelligent and smart i don't understand why she is expecting everyone to be like her? I mean it's not that Yan xiao is dumb but he has father's status although he doesn't seem to care about yan xiao and mother's love that spoiled him where in capital nobility class people were seem to be worshipped. Of all people I think GJZ should have understood his pov that he didn't chose this life.

That being said i am not defending yan xiao beating GJZ out of anger and jealousy. But this whole incident was so sad.

I am in ep 6 and I must say this drama is addicting. The whole plot, characters will keep u engaged.
But there is one thing in ep 6, CYY when he fought he looked so powerful compared to his scholarly demeanor. It's contrasting and amazing as well. Also i am impressed with GJZ and CYY bond. They understand each other so well without communication. So far GJZ don't see him as romantic interest but I think CYY has some soft spot for her. In ep 1, when she burnt whole room by randomly taking his lantern, he went to see her that who is she? Maybe that's when it started. After that I think CYY also is impressed by GJZ intelligence and how she understands the risk associated with land equalization and tax reforms. Ig that's why when she made remarks about his paintings it was in his head and he painted a new one and one jewellery( i don't recollect this rn what exactly was that ) as if he is saying to her in mind this is my sincerity. And everytime, anything that deals with GJZ like marriage talk if he didn't had any feelings for her idts he would be concerned to beat Yan xiao so as he can go and resolve the matter. It was ig his hidden interest as well. But i don't think he knows that GJZ like CXQ. I wonder how CYY react when he know about this.

Or maybe I have been spoiled by the emotional depth and wonderful plotline, cinematography, good acting of to my shore that in this drama the emotional stake seems less. I don't understand why everytime yi chen has to push lu feng? Why I am only seeing lu feng giving his all to have the person he wants but the only time I saw yi chen suffering is when lu feng was leaving in ig second episode.

Apart from that the actor playing yi chen has stiff acting according to me. It doesn't make me feel anything.

Plus I am impressed by other dramas stories rn whether it's bl, bromance or straight drama. It's the plot that is imp. Since this series deals with toxic lovers a market filled with FF, saturation of plots, it's the execution that matters here which I think is the main problem.

The story between lu feng and yi chen looks more like lovers in school to one sided love now to me than the lovers who can't be together due to society or family.

This is probably the first time I want after my stand in for ml to not end together. Because lu feng deserves someone who can choose him with warmth completely. He was a good person but now someone who uses physical force when things doesn't go his way. I get his suffering but he is becoming red flag for a person who is always giving him cold shoulder. He is always asking for one validation and attention from yi chen. In real life it's better to move on from that Person. That's why ig this is one of reasons this drama is not working out for me rn.

Plus it's a drama from china. I had high expectations tbh.

I thought i am the only one. This drama has everything good cinematography, good looking actors, toxicity but for some reason I feel that drama is not able to make me emotionally invested. It feels like I am watching just because all i hear is this series is good. Or maybe I think there are lot of good dramas that are going on i am not able to do justice with this drama. Maybe i should check it out when I am in proper mindset to accept this drama.

Not sure about that. But sometimes I feel that jj does not know what to do with his smile and face sometimes. Not that I don't like his acting. his acting is good in emotional scenes and intense scene. It's just that during romantic scenes where he has to look into net eyes his eyes don't show me emotions like warmth, shyness all i can see him is smile. Or maybe net is a very good actor, the way he sees nakun/ klao the warmth, love, fear, sadness, fear to loose someone he love and hold him dear and never let it go u can feel his feelings through his eyes, actions, touch. When you pair someone that capable actor with somehow who is new and young and still learning, the acting difference u can feel.

But still this doesn't impact the feel and plot of the story. Rest of actors also has done a good job. Plot will keep u hooked. Atleast for me i think they have maintained s very good balance between nakun past life realisation, discovering lost pieces of klao life which was a secret he kept within himself, love blossoming between phop and nakun, jom and kaew love life. At the same time drama gives u slow burn. They have really utilised 1hour very nicely so average acting gets ignored here.

Even I had the same doubt why yim is not hurt as written in synopsis. Generally people who are hurt again and again( as per synopsis) they don't usually even go to temple and ask for bf just after few days of breakup.

But I think the hookup between them should not be taken as the reflection of emotional state from yim pov. As it can be possible that he is still not up for attaching himself romantically in emotional level.

But again the bf wish and hookup does contradict the impact that is supposed to drive the plot.

Looks like in this drama I should not expect anything logical and go with the flow to enjoy. But it's still hard for me as i am plot driven peron.

I am at ep 5 and I have a doubt. Why when fourth master mentioned canal gang thing, chen yan yun slapped him. I mean that kind of gave me little bit red flag vibe from him as if he don't want to talk and let anyone know about this. And what exactly happened in canal gang? I didnt saw in series mentioned earlier will it be explained later? Or the rainy night where GJZ saw him killing someone is the incident this is talking about? Is ml a green flag person or grey flag. Can someone help me in clearing my confusion?

I was excited for this considering boss neoul is one of my fav cp. I loved them in boy next world and LITA. But looks like this drama is not for me. I get it that this was supposed to be fun and cringe at the same time. But for me atleast the concept lacks execution. It's way too cringe for me and the comedy is not hitting me either. Plus the plot wise all I can see till now is nothing new. It's better for me to drop this drama.

I hope I will see them in future projects where the characters or plot has more depth.

How do u know that they are homophobic?? Are they telling you? Remember some actors who actually in BL they literally are homophobic irl like the actor who played Pete in kinnporche.

Plus this series never promoted themselves as BL. I guess queerbaiting means when you are saying you are queer or LGBTQIA+ and promote the content like that but you don't get that. It's to attract the queer audience and people who supports community to increase views. But this series has never done that.

And for people who is watching this series, who told u that are homophobic? Or I can reverse the same thing and say those who don't want to see are people who don't respect straight people or have an understanding that bonding between two person can be more than just an romantic arc.

As a person who watch lot of BL dramas if I am also watching this series u want me label as homophobic??

Either u don't know what does homophobic word means or we are having different dictionary for the definition of Homophobic. Please be respectful of others choices and if you are uncomfortable please share your criticism but have a logic behind that.

Second episode was soo good. The way younger Niran was shown chasing a butterfly who is free and nature's beauty contributor and Niran who is supposed to be "Wu" who protects nature but yet surrounded by loneliness.
Then Pete discovering his birth mystery and who is he? What's beneath him?

The bond between niran and pete is just so pure. Before Niran's entry in Pete's life, Pete was just surviving doing multiple jobs and paying bills and just struggling for everything in his life. Surrounded by loneliness. When Niran said that he don't want pete to suffer and die it's like someone cares for Pete truly for the first time and he felt touched. Niran adds that excitement, adventure and purpose in Pete's life. Same goes with Niran. He has set his walls so high that he is not open to anyone enter in his life that's why whenever Pete gets friendly with him, Niran just rolls his eyes but I don't think he complain internally.

The way they said "I believe you and You believe in me" is so impactful not just on emotional level but it's a necessity for them to trust each other. Their hearts and mind need to be in sync and aligned in order to face the yao and demons. Truly deserving of tag bromance here.
Overall the plot, cinematography, acting is so good.

I know lot of people has said this series to queerbait but as long as I don't see any kind of romance arc between them like yearning for each other, tension between them, wanting more than just friends i dont think this "queerbait" thing is applicable here. I mean two people can be aligned with each other, love and care for each other, Go through life and death situations, be just like a friend or family where their souls are connected without having an romantic arc.

Oh sarcasm 😅. Sorry my bad. Then i have to watch. Because I loved the chemistry between cp in longest promise. Plus synopsis looks interesting.

I haven't watched rise of Ning. But I like the cp. I always felt Ren Min and ci sha has more chemistry in longest promise than with Xiao Zhan. Just sometimes I was not able to understand their heavy screen time because of boring plot between them. Plus I loved ren min in hold a court now.

Why? Is it too boring or is it too entertaining that I will not be able to wait for another day? 😅

How is this drama? Should I start? What should I expect from this drama?

Edit:- Thanks all who recommended me to watch this drama. Not a single sec is boring. Everything is depicted so beautifully. I am really enjoying it. I wonder why it's rating is low.

I am finding synopsis very unique. Usually in period drama it was always modern person going into past. Change history and past lover yearn and meet in present to finally be happy. This time I like the fact that a historical person went to present.

But first few min gave me the untamed vibe where both wei wuxian and kang dang sim looks like died an unjust death where they were not villian but was declared as villian. And same here ml has maintained bad guy persona. This will be an interesting watch for me. It has mystery which i am liking. I have so many questions which is a good sign that this drama has made me engaged.

My only complain here is the language she uses. I mean I get it she was first rank women in kings harem so she will think others as not equal to her. But in every 2 sentences when she was using "wench" word I didn't liked it. I really hope she stop seeing every other person as low to her. Also i just didn't liked that she was using other person facial features to determine their character. If she would have used their expression and situation instead for judgement it would be so good. But considering the setup is ik modern world i kind of get it why it was shown in this way.

Overall from first ep I am looking forward to this drama. Maybe after lovely runner this will be first kdrama that i am watching.

Qimin does have resemblance with tantaijin where both crave for love that they didn't got and at the end they both died with the hands of their most precious one.
I will not say filler episodes. But sometimes yeah for me atleast I think it is too much focused on romance. I was ol with more focus on female lead journey from being a butcher to female general just few parts I think drana haven't done justice. For eg- for me after 28-30 episode they finally started talking about female lead family background and 17 year old case which was starting and prince Changxin finally entered much later.

Basically i understood from comments and reviews that if you go with the expectation of romance, characters and entertainment u will love it. But if you expect drama to give u details about plot and political aspect it will happen much later and something u will not get ans to. Because of which u can get disappointed.

So based on your mood now u can either go with this drama or drop it if you don't like it. It's ok if some people like drama soo much and you didn't. And remember you are not the only one who feel like this. Because even I have taken long to finish this drama. Sometimes I was not in mood for romance and sometimes I found other dramas more interesting.

In this entire mess. I forgot why Jack and Dean even broke up in the first place in the beginning of drama or they haven't told it in drama. Because the entire JackDean situation is annoying me in the sense that why Jack has so much trust issues? What Dean has done that he can't give him chance when he just hugged arnold and nothing else. Now they make up but again in preview they are talking about going separate ways. Honestly in ep11 i liked only arnold tua. Because romeraffy screen time was too less to even talk about it. I got upset with the fact that Rome was acting so nonchalant when Raffy was trying to make things like before between them. But then after the kiss he melted a little bit and atleast gave Raffy a smile.

I have a genuine ques. What makes this drama so popular. I mean i am still at ep 27. So it's safe to say that I have already watched more than half of drama and yet despite having a very beautiful cinematography and the way it potray the relationships is beautiful. I am very much confused on political part. 17 years mystery never mentioned seriously after Yan Zheng encounter with FL. Prince Changxin despite being the main personality behind the whole war. I don't even know him. Why? Who? Left me unanswered. While strong FL is my fav i don't understand is it that easy to fight in front lines and kill the leader with no past experience and just being a butcher? I mean when there are generals who have much experience they are also cautious but she can kill like he is nobody. Then the famous marquis entry in capital which went viral everywhere. Why I see him marquis in name only? I mean i love that this story focuses more on FL journey and her relationship but sometimes i think marquis is here to just show his love and face to FL.

Not that this drama is bad. But for a 9.1 rating as a viewer i would expect atleast 50:50 balance in romance and politics. I would have been completely ok if this drama never mentioned about the problems and issues of political aspect and focused on romance.

Because I have been watching cdrama for a very long time . I am Little bit confused on this high rating. To me it's mediocre.When we have untamed, blossom, reset, love like a galaxy, TTEOTM where story has been written in a much better way. Is it because of romance? Or lot of people have watched this as first wuxia drama? Or it gained so much popularity because of Netflix?

If someone who sees my comment not as criticism but as a viewer who really want to understand the hype and change the perspective while watching remaining episode. Please share ur view on this.

What an episode!!! I just hope the mystery and supernatural elements will be executed like how it has set up the bar in first ep till the end. Because story line is amazing. It has unique plot.

Somewhere I feel that raffy being hurt was necessary so that he finally get the closure on his own. There was one line Rome said that sums why raffy didn't saw all red signals jack was giving " no one is stupid. Not at least in a matter like this". This is the same reason why Rome despite knowing the fact Raffy has unrequited feelings towards Jack he went for it. Same goes with Sand and Nick. They all understood very late. Ik Rome will not let Raffy chase him for years but still Raffy needs to love himself like how Rome despite having feelings for Raffy is choosing to heal himself from the pain he got in the process.