Tanky Toon

Plot twist: his mother is his acting coach.

She's pretty great. And good thing she is really strong and don't care s rat's ass about KSH supporters

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https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/sullis-brother-accuses-iu-of-getting-kim-sae-ron-goo-hara-and-sister-acquainted-with-problematic-psychiatrist-1380700

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Yes, that has been confirmed by the husband and a proof of marriage certificate.

You know I think it's because IU is too close to the heat. Although Sulli's brother spoke up for her, there's the fact that Sulli, KSR and Goo Hara used the same psychologist introduced by IU. And all three of them end up unaliving themselves.

I mean either the pressure is too much for them or the psychologist is inept. Maybe we should take a look at the statistics of that doctor. How many he helped vs how many ended up dying.

For me, it's just eerie to think about it.

That part where KSH gave the phone number to the media (among the many things that he did) is very douche-baggy to me.

Really not sure about either, but in my experience the people who claim "fake news" the most are its worst perpetrators. I've worked so many decades that I encounter those who are the most paranoid of being lied to, is because 1) either they've been lied to all the time or 2) they are the ones who are the most prone to lie.
For case no. 2, for example, a person who has tendency to lie and has done so for far more numerous times than considered normal, they will be first ones to be suspicious of others.

Granted, we all each have our own standards for judging people who we deem trustworthy or not. But that's my general perception.

I have experience, both first and second-hand with suicide.

A close relative of mine ended up in the hospital due to numerous attempts, and it is only because of her experience that my parents finally realized that depression and suicidal ideation are not to be taken lightly.

When I was younger, I did bring up this subject a few times, only to be dismissed by parents. Good thing I was a coward that I didn't go through my feeble attempts of ending my life. Small setbacks were enough to trigger this, like an unrequited love, or a failed project.

But I think what really almost made me do it at one point was when I was sexually assaulted and the company I worked for at that time brushed off the idea. Although there were a few of us who voiced our complaints, Human Resources told us that we would lose the battle since we don't have the same tenure as the perpetrators. They told us specifically that because this group of men were crucial to the work force, that the management will rather turn a blind eye, side with them, because we the victims were more replaceable.

Then, when I try to tell my parents (who were miles away from home - they stay half of the time in another continent), they told me that I must have done something to "invite" these men, like wearing shorts in the summer. Needless to say, I was dejected. BUT what kept me going was the thought of my younger siblings who relied on me. Who will they rely on if I was gone? That thought kept me going.

Then years later, when I was diagnosed with Cancer. The same thoughts came to mind, but it was during this time that my cousin almost died from her wounds. It was like a wake up call. Now, my parents recognize that depression is a real thing. And not just some made up "excuse" to get out of work or school. It was then that they
allowed" me to see a doctor. It was then that I was diagnosed with dysthymia.

It's been decades since that pivotal moment where I realized that strength doesn't necessarily mean you are emotionally strong, but it's the courage to seek help when needed. It's to fight your first impulse to cower and trudge on despite obstacles. Sure, I still get anxiety attacks when severely stressed, but I make sure not to put myself in that situation, or if unavoidable, getting up and walking around helps quite a lot.

I could say that I am lucky that despite the lack of support when I was younger, and the abundance of stigma, that I was able to hang on to life. What helps me is to change my perception of happiness. I used to think that just because I'm not happy, it means that I'm sad. I found out that this is not entirely correct.

My goal has also shifted, in that I no longer seek that elusive happiness that some people may find, but just to be content with what I have and not compare myself to those who seem to have a better life, because ultimately I do not know their journey of how they got there. Everybody's experience is different.

So when I start to stress about the house not being clean, I remind myself to be thankful that at least I have a house to live in when some people don't. Or when I was feeling frustrated due to some serious affliction, I remind myself that it is temporary. Or when both of my kids were diagnosed with different congenital diseases that are permanent, I remind myself that at least they're relatively healthy otherwise.

Turning gripes into gratitude have made me less anxious, less depressed, and while taking medication does help a lot, having a supportive family matters a lot too.

I hope this is not too late, but I just want to say that if you find things overwhelming, it's a good idea to disengage, not from life, but from this forum or any other platform where you see his defenders or anything that may be triggering. I'm telling you now that KSH supporters won't care about you, so it's important that you care about yourself. Why give them power and ammunition to bring you down? The best revenge against all those who did you wrong or who hurt you is to live a contented life without them.

In all of this mess, you highlighted what is most important. Your mental well-being. It's not worth it to feel depressed about somebody who is not even remotely related to you. It's fine to care about injustice but not at the expense of your mental health.

Yes, the global percentage of depression is around 3.8%, that is 280 million people worldwide, and that is what is reported. The number could be higher because many people think they are just experiencing extreme sadness or do not get properly diagnosed. And every year, 1 in and every 100 deaths is the result of suicide and it is the third leading cause of death among people between 15 - 30 years old. Women are twice more likely to suffer depression and/or commit suicide.

More to follow on the spoiler below. Trigger Warning:

Yes, this is what GM said that they have to make an attempt of trying to recover the money for audit purposes. But if this is the case, couldn't somebody from KSH staff send KSR a separate email or just verbally tell her, "Don't worry about the notice, it's just a formality?"

And then there's also that connection from KSH to LJH that goes like this:
LJH gets his Intel from Kwak Tae Young who happens to be KSR's manager who followed her to the new agency, but guess what, he still reports and works for GM and we all know who co-owns GM.

So is LJH's sabotage merely out of spite or for LJH's "journalistic" views? Or something more sinister? That remains to be seen.

On top of what all the replies in this thread indicated, you have to remember, that the other guys she dated, none of them asked for money like KSH/GM did. Even if I was happily married or dating somebody, if I received a notice asking me for payment of 700Mil KRW, that must be paid or face consequences, that I know I could never in my lifetime earn that much. I doubt that I would be jumping for joy. She could have moved on, but that constant reminder that she received, is not good for anybody already with a weak mental stability.

If I was the husband and just got married to a girl, who I think is good enough to be my wife, but knowing that I may have to share the burden of her debt, especially after just meeting her 4 times, you bet I am going to run for the hills. You know that Won Bin actually offered to pay this debt, but KSH refused. What does that say to you? If you see the posts below reiterating how a narcissist operates, one of the things they do is to ruin people's lives if they try to move on without them.

In her very last unsent letter to KSH, she still refers to him as the love of her life. He might not feel the same, but must I remind you that children who have been pre-conditioned since young, has the tendency to place their "mentor" or "important other" on a pedestal, because they do not take the same way that adult may take. We cannot discount this reliance.

Have you heard the phrase, "the younger, the more malleable"? Because it certainly applies to any grooming scenario. Brain development studies have found that people, especially children, are more easily influenced and shaped by experiences and teachings at a younger age. You know why a lot of people put heavy emphasis on the idea of "First Love." It's because their influence can shape future relationships. A person's experience during that first relationship, gives them a general idea on the trajectory of their romance.

For example, if one is treated well, they might assume that subsequent partners will more or less treat them the same. Conversely, people will try to rearrange their priorities on what they look for in a partner if their experience was a bad one. And there are some, who have the tendency to fall for the same type over and over again, despite being burnt. Either out of cluelessness or desperation, some people would keep seeking for a partner that is similar to their first one, even if it was bad, because they just want to reminisce the times that they could have had with that first partner, should they still be in a relationship years later.

And we already can surmise that from KSR's timing of her death, that KSH was still front and center of her mind, despite not being in contact with him for years. Should KSH entirely be blamed for her death, maybe not a hundred percent. But did he contribute to her problems that to led to her demise? This is part of the debate that's going on now.

That's why you have root cause investigations for this type of thing. Pretty much how insurance adjusters assign a percentage of probable cause if, for example, a roof collapses. Was it because of the heavy rain? Maybe 20%. Or was it because of the shoddy construction? 30% perhaps. Was it the age of the shingles? Another 25%. Was it because of the rain that caused a tree that fell on the roof? 15% Was it because nobody cut down the tree? 10%. There are so many variables that culminated in the roof collapsing.

So the same goes here. Questions arise, if KSH/GM did not send that legal notice around the time of her death, would KSR be still alive? If LJH didn't consistently hound her, would she be distressed? So on and so forth. One of KSRs friends assigned blame like this: KSH 70% LJH 25% NY husband 5%.

People certainly have their own conjectures which may or may not be right, and that's why people submit their theories, some more sound than others, in the hopes of getting to the bottom of the issue.

And hence, I'm glad that I don't live in a world and time where such ancient beliefs still exist. But also, we cannot blame the entire country though because it's what they know, and it's harder to change. Progress cannot be attained overnight, and it is usually frowned upon in countries where "imperialism" has roots because it would mean the loss of long-held traditions. Besides, having traditions is also a way of honoring those who came before you, so certainly not all of them are bad.

Even in first world-countries, misogyny is not completely stamped out. In fact, just looking at one of the newly-minted Presidents whose prejudiced views against race, gender, and equality are being celebrated, you would think that the world is upside down. All the decades-long fight for the civil and constitutional liberties of the marginalized few seem not to have happened. In fact, he even tries to shoo people who don't look, act or think like him, back into the caves.

It seems that whatever hill that others sacrificed and died for our rights and freedoms, they just got buried in a mountain of mistruths, and presenting them as facts, so that the less educated and uninformed will nod along with whatever the false prophet spews from his mouth. It's rather sad that we are going back into an age where patriarchy reign supreme among the hands of the few.

Like you expect a 200 page disposition, that I neither have the time or energy to spend. It's posted all over everywhere and yet you claim that they are not proof. Even if evidence is served to you on a platter, you will always cling to the sliver of hope that your Oppa might not be as bad as he seems, because after all, the only way you will be convinced of his wrongdoings is that he slices a poor girl' neck in front of your eyes. Even then, you probably will call it a "kink" that the victim is so lucky to have been chosen to experience death at the hands of your handsome star.
Good day, it's been nice chatting.

Even if the evidence stabs you in the eye, you will fail to see it. Can't help you there.

What I took offense is that you lump people who don't align with your views as "MAGATS." I am not really the type to paint everyone with the same brush, like I won't say all Americans are bad. Or I hate Americans, just because I don't like Trump and his policies. I might strongly dislike those people who put him in power, but to lambast the whole country for the choices that half of it's citizen's make, will be like me wielding a knife and slashing everyone in my sight without discrimination.

But since you are the one who brought Trump and his minions to this conversation, I'm merely suggesting that what KSH and Trump have in common is the propensity to drop their jaws at the sight of a nubile, teenage girls. The rest is up to you to discern.

He's gonna run out of money soon, that's why he's suing KSR'S family for an exorbitant amount of money because he desperately needs it. But it's not likely they will be able to pay even if he wins.

So he can go back to milking cows in some farm because those are the only tits he will be able to squeeze without needing consent.

Says the person from Florida, a state who largely voted for a convicted criminal into the highest position in their country. You know, that's why it's understandable that people who worship someone who says "Grab them by the Pu$$y" will not think anything of sexual misconduct. Because apparently, being a known misogynist, racist, sexist checks all the boxes. Hey, maybe your President and KSH can run their own teenage pageants so they can walk in dressing rooms while the contestants are half-naked. I'm pretty sure they have so much to talk about.