Kate

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Everyone has flaws that they can work on. One would think by the end of the show they would give him some character development 🥲

yeah but that's part of the problem and one of the reasons his mother still acts the way she does. He is unintentionally supporting her behavior but solving all her issues all the time.

🤣 girl I feel you. this show made my blood boil.

My point is, legally speaking there is no reason for DJ to repay the family and it should not affect WJ's family AT ALL. Since legally speaking the family does not own the house anyway. Him paying the other family is not really connected to WJ and fixing his mother mistakes towards them at all...

And then there were the parts where I was wondering whether the Thai had been lost in translation.
“You are my bitch.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

just me being confused by the preview

The preview is confusing for me. I fail to see who is Dongjin trying to pay back and for whose benefit.
The family that wanted to buy the house was scammed. I'm sorry for them, but they have no legal right to the house since it was sold to them by the person who does not legally own it. So they should just also sue Dongjin's mom. There is no reason for Dongjin to put any money into it unless he yet again is trying to help his mother. But if that's the case... Ma dude, I am losing sympathy, because you are part of the problem here.

there are 2 cases when it happens:
1. The drama is absolute trash with poor writing so people are fighting in comments
2. The drama is a gem with good writing and it makes people think and discuss the plot and the characters in detail.

Obviously this is the 2nd one 😂

2:00
Honestly my favorite performance from this round. I think this shows how stupid the idea of random songs for groups was, because it shows how good of a performance a team can deliverer when the song fits them. It highlighted their strengths while also not exposing their shortcomings. They are not the strongest group vocally. They are not ones to high crazy ad libs high runs in the last chorus, so this song was literally the perfect choice. They still showed they are vocally capable with that one high note in the bridge, but they were not asked to do more than they can.

20:00
I loooved the performance and I loooove the song, but I wish Roda had more to do on stage. He seemed more like a feat. and not this being a duo.

(side note - why it feels like the judges are more strict with groups A, compared to groups B? Two solid performances and no mistakes, and yet none got all pick).

24:00
It was a solid stage. I think I'm just so bored with sexy concept and queerbaiting moments 😅 And this stage makes it even more obvious that the mentors are far more strict with teams in A, than in B. Worse performances in B got more picks 😂

11:00
The song is really good and I love the chorus choreo. Amazing vocals, the dance could have been more clear. I also think they looked at the floor too much 😅

I'm not sure how I feel about Jay giving some benefit to 11 even tho they had some flaws in their dancing because they started as part time workers, but i feel like most judges did not take into consideration how team 24 had to redo everything in 5 days because they lost a member. They are more lenient towards some team more than the others.

7:00
This is for sure my favorite song. I'm sad coz I could see they were a bit tense coz of the dancing. The choreo is not easy and they are not exactly that good with their dancing right now. But still, SOLID performance. The way they were able to sing the chorus while doing the floor choreo! Amazing. I find it funny that the moment Jay Park pointed out as something he liked, was the moment I thought was lacking. For me that choreo part was a bit messy in the execution and the turns and transitions between moves were not smooth enough 😅

sidenote: team 8:00 brainwashed me. I am listening to coco colada from time to time.

I don't think it's that simple tho. Coz sadly it's not only Dongjin's decision whenever he wants to contact his mother, she is not exactly most respectful person who would accept his decision and let him live peacefully. It's more probable she would be showing up evert now and then to guilty trip him and make a scene. There is also the issue of them still being legally a family. For example, I don't know what are the inheritance laws in Korea and if someone can give up dept inheritance, but if they cannot, chances are she would leave a huge dept to Dongjin, that would become also Woojoo and her family burden to carry.

Also I think we need to remember Woojoo was even "worse" in how she treated Dongjin at the beginning. Her reaction and plan was worse than her family reaction. They don't want him to be part of their lives, that's it. While she was on the revenge trip to ruin his life, his firm (which would also lead to ruining his friend who is the co-ceo and making the employees jobless). It took her at least weeks to slowly reconsider and see the situation from Dongjin's perspective. While her family just got the info dropped on them. Woojoo had time to accept Dongjin and slowly get rid off her negative feelings towards him, her family deserves that time too.

They can literally live in the same neighborhood to see each other often 😂, but all of them have things to learn that they can only do if they take the time to live alone and deal with it personally.

I'm actually really curious what will Woojoo do about the house. I'm mostly interested if she will tell siblings about it. She called the mom, but honestly speaking it's the siblings that should know the most, since the house is literally under the 3 of them, split equally. So this is literally not a situation where Woojoo had the right to make any decisions on her own, not just morally, but legally. I'm glad she told the mom, that's the improvement, because up till now her preferable choice of action was making decisions herself and either not sharing them with others, or enforcing them with no room for discussion (mostly the youngest brother).

I'm also curious how "far" will Dongjin go with dealing with his mother. He slowly stops being so passive about his surroundings, so I'm curious what type of a person he will be and what choice he will make when he decides to be more active in his approach. We can see the direction he is taking, but I'm curious how far is he willing to go with it.

The whole "Woojoo is too near to Dongjin" seems to be an excuse for her hurt ego because of Jun's loyalty to WJ... < I think one can exist with the other. She can have more than one motivation for it. I don't think she is just using Woojoo as an excuse. But I also think she wants to move for more than one reason. She sees how much Woojoo is struggling because of Dongjin and the situation, and she herself is struggling because of her situation with Jun, so for her moving out seems like the best choice for both of them.

I think this situation actually shows how HS and WJ are truly sisters and have many similarities. They both tend to make decisions on their own for people in their lives, that they deem as the best choices. WJ with how the youngest brother should live his life, WJ with deciding to never tell anyone about what happened (coz that was her plan, end it with Dongjin and never tell her family the truth). And HS with now moving out. They both should learn to listen to each other and people around them.

As for the moving out, personally I think they should all move out separately 😅 Woojoo needs to learn how to take care of herself more and start to live her life for her own. Hye Seong needs to learn how to be alone, because she is emotionally really dependent on people (like with her not being able to eat alone for such a long time), and Ji Gu needs to start learning some adulting and responsibilities of taking care for himself in the most basic manner (food, paying bills etc.).

She literally was ready to not only ruin Dongjin but also his best friend who was co-ceo and make all the people working in the company jobless.
Them not wanting to have anything to do with him is far less extreme than her wanting to ruin him hurting Innocent people as a result 😅

I think that's why it's quite different and not correct to say the two families' situation is the same, coz it was both Woojoo's dad and Dongjin's mom who cheated and ruined the families. Because the dad is dead so he is literally not part of the picture anymore. He cannot create more issues, he is not a constant reminder of the painful past. While the bish mom is still fine and creating more issues.

Woojoo literally had months to understand the situation and her feelings, while the family was dropped with that info out of the blue. We need to remember Woojoo was not so nice and understanding towards Dongjin from the start either. She did not try to see it from his perspective. Her plan was literally to ruin his life as a revenge for what his mother did. Why are we "forgiving" her for that, while also criticizing Woojoo's family for reacting in literally the same fashion Woojoo reacted in the past? I would even say Woojoo was more wrong. Coz while the family just does not want to have Dongjin in their lives and that sit (I honestly do not think they hate him, and they did not really say one bad word about him), Woojoo was on the mission to ruin him.

Their reaction finding out who Dongjin is is literally more tamed than Woojoo's in the past.

I feel like I have quite a different take on what happened in episodes 13 and 14 because I don't really see Woojoo and Dongjin as these blameless victims that need to be protected, but rather as adults who should take responsibility for their actions (just like every other character in this show). No one is just a victim or just an asshole here (except for Dongjin's mom, nothing good about her).

Like Dongjin unintentionally supported his mother toxic and bad behavior by always supporting her financially when she was in need. Bish did not have to worry about and mature, because all the bad consequences of her actions fell on Dongjin. His passive behavior was part of the problem and he did not take any steps to fix it on his end until last episode. Yes, he is still a victim of the toxic family situation, but he also made it possible for this toxic behavior to last so long. Both can be true at the same time.

About his relationship with Min Young - he was also partially at fault. I mean, they were dating for years and he kept refusing when she wanted to meet his family, without giving any explanation. On her side it could literally make it seem like he does not want her to be part of his family. Like he does not want their relationship to go any deeper. Him trying to "protect" her from his family made him closed emotionally. I would feel like my partner does not trust me enough to share their pain and issue with me. A relationship cannot work out like that.

Woojoo was the backbone of her family, but she also disregarded what her family wants based on her perception of what is better. Her family was supposed to act in the way she planned for them (especially in terms of her younger brother) and that was the only way she accepted. It's not really different from how Hye Seong making decision they should all move out now, because she sees it as the best for them all.

Woojoo's "revenge" was at the end a bad decision, impulsive and driven by the strong negative emotions she had towards woman AND HER SON. People forgot Woojoo herself HATED Dongjin. She wanted to see him suffer just as much as she suffered. It took her quite some time to get to know him and understand his side. But people expect Woojoo's family to accept him right away and not be against their relationship, as if WOOJOO HERSELF did not have strong negative feelings towards him. She had time to see the complexity of the situation and deal with the conflicting feelings to some extend, her family deserves the same. Why can she go on a foolish revenge trip for months no issue, but her family cannot have strong negative reaction to this mess for some time? I mean, Woojoo initially had no issue ruining more than one person's life, since if the firm went down, the co-ceo would also be ruined and all the workers would lost their job. Why can she act selfish because of her negative feelings and people don't point it out, but her family cannot?

Yoon Joon's issue was being too loyal to Woojoo. What kind of best friend lets their friend to all that crazy shit (coz no one can tell me the revenge was a normal and healthy thing to do) and still let them do it with all the new complications showing up. Not one he had a really tough but honest conversation with her. He always let it slide when she kept pushing further into future when she will end it, when it will stop. He should have told her to either end it with Doojin, or some clean to her family. But he did not. At the end of the day, he is not only friends with Woojoo. He treats all siblings like his own family. His situation was quite similar to Dongjin - him being passive about it all made the situation worse.

Min Young should have been more honest with her feelings. Like, damn both her and Dongjin completely sucked at communicating when they were together. He completely cut her off from important part of his life, but she also never really told him honestly how it makes her feel, never told him about her meeting the mother. Never told him about her doubts and fears after she did.

Hye Seong just let things pass when she feels overwhelmed. We need to remember (as it was stated in newest ep) that she was in fact taking care of Woojoo and Ji Gu after the mom left and they were still in high school. She was left to deal with the initial crisis, and only after Woojoo graduated from high school she started to take over the responsibilities. The siblings called her when there were issues, it clearly suggest she was the one to deal with them. Not to mention, pretty sure financially speaking she puts the most money into the family since she is the only one with a stable job (not like Woojoo can make much money from part time and internship). Her issue is the fact she wants to deal with things right away or not at all. That's why she jumps into action, because she cannot stand the feeling of uncertainty. That's why she always talks with people honestly about her feelings right away. And that's selfish, because her motivations are often more driven by wanting to make herself feel better, than to actually be fair to the other person by being honest.

She should learn from Woojoo that at times it's better to take one or two days to think things through before making a decision, and Woojoo should learn from Hye Seong that she should be more more honest about her feelings - no one is mind reader, they won;t know how you feel, what you think, what you plan to do, unless you tell them. They are both flawed in a completely opposite sides.

As for Sun Woo - realistically speaking, he had no reasons to even accept Woojoo asking to wait before she tells the truth, not only that, he had no reasons to even trust any word she says after what he found out. It's not like she explained the situation to him. She did not. Sun Woo telling Dongjin the truth was driven by his loyalty towards his friend, just like Jun not telling Woojoo's family was driven by his loyalty towards her. We all prioritize some people over others. So did he.

For me, this is a truly fascinating situation that makes me want to look at it from the perspective of all the characters and wonder what ALL of them could have done differently. All of the characters made some wrong decisions, none of the characters is blameless here. Why? Because they are humans and all humans have flaws.

I think a lot of people in this comment section forgets how collectivist Korea is and how high they value family. The moment you remember that, everyone's choice make far more sense.

My issue with Hye Seong is not the fact that she told the family the truth, but that she did not give Woojoo chance to do it. I honestly believe Woojoo would not do it at the end, and keep delaying the time to tell as far as she can (as she did with quitting the job, ending it with Dongjin etc,), and in this scenerio, I would have no issue with Hye Seong telling them the truth. I truly believe they had the right to know since they got involved with Dongjin. They had the right to know who he is and made their own judgement if they want to have him as part of their lives or not. If they never met Dongjin, it would be a whole different situation, and then it should be 100% Woojoo's choice if she wants them to know what happened or not.

The situation is not as easy as - he is her son, but he is also the victim here so they should be able to date no issues. Because if they would get married, his mother would legally be part of their family... How awful it would make them feel? The woman that ruined their family now officially being part of their family? This is yet another reason why I think everyone involved should know the truth. Because the truth and Woojoo's choices are affecting them.

As for the moving out bit - I guess making decisions for everyone, coz you think they are the best choice for them runs in the family, because this is exactly how Woojoo was handling the family up till now (especially with the younger brother).

At the end of the day all the characters, Woojoo and Jun and literally everyone included made choices for others that they thought were correct, which stripped the other person of making said choice themselves. It's something that is painfully common in real life. And it comes down to what one values more - freedom of choice, or avoiding being hurt. For me, I rather know the bad truth than live in a lie. So for me, for example the fact Woojoo and Jun did not want to tell the family the truth (if it was not exposed) was wrong and I cannot side with them here.

knowing your little sister is carrying the entire responsibility of the family < this is not true. Yes, at some point Woojoo started to "organized" their lives, but it was clearly stated that when mom left the oldest sister was the head of the family and both younger siblings were relying on her and calling her for help when something happened.

I also STRONGLY disagree that hiding the truth was a good choice and "good for the family" when the mother was literally ready to set Woojoo up with Dongjin, inviting him for dinner and sending him food at work. Same with younger brother who truly liked him. It would not be easy to just "end it". I also don't believe anyone should be making choice for others if they should know the truth or not. It's not Woojoo's nor Hye Seong place to decide for the mom and the younger brother if they should or should not know the truth. It would be a different story if they never met Dongjin, then yes, it's up to Woojoo to decide. But the moment they also got involved, they had the right to know who is that person they are welcoming in their lives, taking into consideration the messy and complex situation.


you live in your sister’s bestfriend’s < you make it seem as if Hye Seong was not Jun's friend too. There were all friends. It was not just Jun and Woojoo being friends and Hye Seong and the younger brother just there coz of Woojoo.

Hye Seong acts towards Woojoo exactly like Woojoo was acting towards her youngers brother - forcing the choice they think are correct. They are/were both misguided by their good intentions. Coz Hye Seong's intentions are good. She sees how much Woojoo is suffering and how everything reminds her of Dongjin and how high is the probability of them meeting, so from her perspective, moving is the right choice.

And as for the comment below, I don;t think anyone hates him. It's not about them hating him, it's the fact that of Woojoo would truly end up with him, his mother would also become part of the family and that just feels from for them (understandably).