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Pleasantly surprised by that first episode!

CGI is beautiful and I could tell that the budget was really good for this drama. Fight scenes and special fx’s were epic and nice to watch!

Loved the intro that foreshadowed (hopefully) a riveting plot ahead. I have fingers crossed that this drama will give us a tonn of angst 🤞🏻 it’s been a while!

So far, the ML and FL have chemistry. I hope that the two sisters relationship can be similar to Li Change’s and Leyan’s in TLB. I’m sensing upcoming character development for our female lead, and I’m definitely looking forward to it.

Looks promising to me!

man I was here when comments were only like 15K, but then I blinked and- HOW THE HELL DID IT GO TO NEARLY 78K.

Seeing how much our clown community has grown, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry..

@TBA I think most of those scenes with SJ acting suspicious was just for framing effects. In other words, making him look like the culprit when in reality there is another person, to build suspense and thrill.

@MadHatter
It would be incredible. If SJ was truly the mastermind behind all of this, you’d bet I’ll give this drama a solid 9/10. However, I’m sure it isn’t going to happen.

I recommend that you watch it to find out :) not spoiling anything here!

It is. Blind’s inspiration came from a place called Brothers Home (also known as Brothers Welfare Center).

Here’s a link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52797527.amp

Mentally prepare yourself before reading it and any article about Brothers Home. It really is disturbing, and shines light on how twisted humans can really be :/

Sadly, it is. Here’s a link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52797527.amp

It is a peeve that SJ is a bit incompetent, I can agree with you on that.

However, are you forgetting the fact that YJ brainwashed SJ into thinking he was HIM? SJ lived his entire life thinking he was number 13, JYJ.

Now that these murder cases are surfacing, with each clue points towards HWC, how he’s been getting insane flashbacks of YJ’s memories ever since he’s tackled the case, coupled with the fact that both YJ and SH have also been on his tail, even if he were to detach himself from the case completely, he would still be looped back into it. After all, his own mother was someone important from HWC. YJ practically has her head, along with SJ’s, on a stick. It’s just that SJ is subject to being a "puppet" of YJ. YJ is doing enough taunting as is, while SH is working behind the scenes. Since YJ and SH’s plan turned SJ into YJ gradually over the course of 10+ years, their plan isn’t so simple as it seems.

SJ is turning his attention to YJ because he’s the most active person in the whole HWC situation. SJ is investigating YJ, which, in turn, will reveal all the other puzzle pieces that connect to the entire picture- that is, all the victims, the police chief, BMK, and everything else involved.

SJ isn’t working under the chief. Everyone in the team is already aware of how much dirt he has under him. I’m sure that SJ is just utilizing the space in the station to investigate. As you can see, he, along with his other buddies, are more passive aggressive towards the chief. Otherwise, SJ seems to be working alone.

Overall, SJ is a flawed character, but he’s also someone who’s trying to figure out what exactly is going on, albeit in a poor investigative manner. So I would say he’s at least someone worth sympathizing, even at least a little bit, for.

I completely agree with you. Honestly, I think its a bit of a waste that the writers didn’t make SJ one of the kids at HWC, or even the villain all along.

If that were to happen, it would’ve been so cool. I wished more dramas followed that type of trope.

There’s no doubt that the kids from HWC suffered an unbearable amount of pain, and there’s also no doubt that YJ served some justice in his revenge.

However, that doesn’t mean you should invalidate SJ’s struggles. It wasn’t his fault that he, like the other victims who were children of those related to HWC, was born to both parents, where one of them also has to do with HWC. He’s picking on YJ because YJ keeps looping him into his shit. It also doesn’t help that he was practically brainwashed by the person he considered to be his good, loving brother, who took advantage of his amnesia to mold him into a completely different identity for who knows what reason?

Why else do you think JYJ brainwashed SJ for? Just for him to disregard and not even speculate the tiniest amount of his relation to the current serial killings, but turn his attention to go on to catch corrupted officials?

He’s a police officer out to catch the "bad guys," so he does kind of lack that perspective the former HWC kids have.

I’m not exactly on the same boat as you in terms of advocating for YJ not to be put behind bars, but I’m also not up to the idea of giving YJ that kind of torturous punishment either. At the end of the day, he’a still got so much blood on his hands, so I think justice wouldn’t necessarily be served if he were to leave this situation unscathed.

shamans are always reliable in kdramas, so yes!

Alright, it seems like IS is YJ.

But is it just me or does anyone else find it odd how IS just stabbed SH in such a ruthless and merciless manner, despite their past relationship? After all, YJ and SH were once really close. SH even vowed to protect YJ at all costs.Even though it has been 20 years since the incident at HWC happened, I expected for YJ to at least cherish past relationships.

I just can’t seem to brush off this feeling that SH is definitely involved, and maybe the stabbing was arranged for SJ to see. I still can’t get that silent exchange between SH and IS at the funeral home out of my head.. the two definitely have some sort of connection.

Guys! A new poster has been released!
What’s your interpretation on it?

https://m.mk.co.kr/star/broadcasting-service/view-amp/2022/10/942008/

Is RSJ the real Yoon Jae? IS YOON JAE ALIVE?

This is giving me flashbacks to Mouse and Vincenzo’s poster.. could we be following a trend/theme?

I’m extremely ecstatic rn. If the writers do go with the plot twist I’m currently thinking of.. I will be the happiest person alive LMAO.

I guess this is what Eunji meant when she said: "류형제한테서떨어져은기야.." (Stay away from the Ryu brothers, Eunki-ya..)

Here’s an interesting part in episode 12! When the jurors were having a drink together at Charles’s restaurant, if you look closely, the shaman lady wasn’t wearing an outer coat and looked to be having a good time with the rest, despite being in the same room as JIS.

However, she started getting shivers when RSJ sat next to her. Isn’t that strange?

Alright, so after watching episode 12, here are my thoughts!

So Inseong turned out to be YJ. Now, him being YJ was something I didn’t expect, but him as the culprit? Honestly, it was already quite predictable. Personally, I kind of wished that the writers would take a more unpredictable route, but hey, the ride was insane the whole time, so I could not care less!

Since the culprit was already revealed, I wouldn’t have to scourge each episode for clues anymore regarding YJ’s identity lol. However, that doesn’t mean all questions were answered. Here are some.

Charles has an older brother named Hyun Soo. Before I get into this, I wanted to mention something a bit off topic.. why in the world are almost all suspicious people named Hyun Soo in Korean thrillers? I mean, take FOE, Sweet Home, Suspicious Partner, now Blind. I swear, that name probably has some deeper, darker meaning behind it haha. But back to the main point! So Charles older brother is named Hyun Soo, who went missing when he was younger. Charles put the knife that was still covered with blood in plain sight. He put it there because he wanted the detectives to spot it. After he was brought into the interrogation room, he admitted to stabbing SH, but we all know that this wasn’t the case, as he did it to protect the culprit. Later, the culprit is revealed to be IS. Now here is where I’m a bit intrigued. Just what exactly is the relationship between him and the chef? Unless Charles was one of the boys back then (24?), what other kind of relationship would he have with IS, to the point where he would take the blame for murder? What about Hyun Soo? Could IS be HS? I think that the two are either brothers or were the kids from back then.

IS’s adoption documents show that his registered name was Jung IS, but the picture is clearly of the boy named JYJ. Just who is IS, exactly? Is 12 the one who truly died from his ankle infection? If so, did YJ adopt his identity? What for?

Judging by how Charles reacted when SJ said "YJ," he definitely knows that YJ is IS. When I saw this, I thought that, perhaps Hyun Soo never existed. However, this is quite debatable, since Charles parents confirmed that he had an older brother named Hyun Soo.

I also wanted to mention an important detail crucial in kdramas: dimples. As you all may know, dimples can say a lot about who was who in the past vs the present. I found this tweet on Twitter that’s pretty interesting to look at: https://mobile.twitter.com/Bongbong2712/status/1581564952187322368.

Is SJ truly, well, SJ?

So, these are some of my lingering questions:

1) Who is Hyun Soo and where is he?
2) How does SJ have all those vivid memories of being at HWC, that originally belonged to IS? I mentioned this point before, but do you really expect me to believe that YJ purposefully pushed SJ off the playground to turn him into an amnesiac, then fed him memories of HIS own childhood into SJ’s mind, as if it was all a simple premeditated murder attempt? I don’t know about y’all.. but YJ was literally a whole child back then, and I don’t think any child would be capable of formulating such a complex plan in preparation for the future. Just what was YJ’s intention on doing that to SJ?
3) How did IS get that wound on his ankle? did he cut it himself?
4) I refuse to forget the silent exchange between IS and SH. Just what was this all about?
5) IS could’ve stabbed SH to death to shut him up, but why didn’t he? From the countless dramas that I’ve watched, I learned that some places, when stabbed, are more fatal than others. And in SH’s case, he was stabbed somewhere that’s considered as non-fatal. At the hospital, IS didn’t expect SH to live. He said something along the lines of "You survived that?" Was IS really clueless about what he was doing? Did he take into consideration his and SH’s relationship in the past, and purposely stabbed him where it won’t kill him?
6) Who is SJ and SH’s mother, exactly? HWC’s organizer?
7) I also can’t forget how SJ’s parents said that SJ was adopted, but they couldn’t send him back. If this was truly the case, where was he adopted from, who were his biological parents, and what is his relation to HWC?
8) Remember when the jurors all gathered in Charles restaurant to watch the livestream where ATH was being hung? At some point, IS gets a text message from someone, so we can safely assume that he’s not working alone. But who could the other person be? In these weeks episodes, we can see that IS and Charles could possibly be working together. However, the person who sent IS the text message didn’t seem like Charles, since he was seen beside IS. When IS got the message, we didn’t see Charles typing on his phone or anything. Instead, he was immersed in the livestream.
9) In episode 13’s preview, we see that YJ has gathered all the people related to HWC into the basement. However, SJ wasn’t one of these people. Remember YJ and SJ’s first encounter in the basement? I thought that, since SJ ignored YJ’s call for help, he would be turned into another source of resentment. If this was the case, then why didn’t YJ lock him up with the others?
10) In the earlier episodes, JMC said that the person who he saw in the car with BJE was RSJ, but when SH asked him why he said that, he didn’t respond.. What was the reason behind that?

Is it just me.. or do I find Na Dong-Hwa (glasses detective) awfully suspicious in these past few episodes?

I also have so many doubts about IS being the culprit.. the voice that spoke to ATH sounded so deep and raspy, almost identical to RSJ’s. It doesn’t sound like it belongs to JIS at all. JIS is obviously not working alone, but who is his accomplice, exactly?

That’s all for this week, see you all in next weeks episodes! It’s incredible how there only two more weeks left before the series ends. If the drama ends well, I can imagine myself feeling hungover for a good while.

Main character, RSJ

I completely agree. I understand that many are excited that IS is the killer, but that doesn’t mean everything else is cleared up. MC’s behavior is literally inexplicable at this point lol.. clearly, he’s got a few loose screws, but I guess that’s about it?

now that you’ve spotted it, it really is a unique and distinct thumb !

From the looks of it, it was only 11, 12, and 13 who were locked up in the cell when BCH found them.

That’s the first time I read about the prosthetic leg theory! Interesting!