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My biggest question is if the new drummer had to provide results of a gay test to the producer before being assigned to the band since I'm guessing all the other members are lgbtq+ if their entire branding is pride-based.

I'd randomly stumbled upon this and even 8 years later it's still such a good variety show idea. Despite not knowing any of the celebrities, I'm still having fun watching them integrate into the schools and it's also great for getting insight into how Korean schools are (or were) structured.
Such a shame only half of it was subbed, I'd absolutely watch the rest if I could.

I don't exactly know why, but the transmigrators default to wearing blue and there were a lot of scenes at their base in this episode. But besides that blue is the most frequent colour in the drama overall so it's most likely due to it being an important colour.

I feel like replies would get as easily lost as the comments, I'm considering the first choice, but I'm unsure if it's okay to have such a long post at the start of a topic. Thank you for the suggestion either way!

I had a brief thought about doing this, but I have no idea how to format this. Do I make a new discussion for every two episodes, one topic of which the first post will be edited with newly added information after every new episode or something else entirely?

That's an interesting theory! It's like he's debuting for the second time with a fresh start so this haircut could be aiming to emphatise that.

I am here to talk about colours again. This one is very long compared to previous two because I've started comparing and linking things with the past episodes and making up some theories, though I have no idea if I'm spouting any correct interpretations lol.

Ep 5: Winter White
There's an interesting contrast with this title as winter has mostly negative symbolism of words such as cold and lonely while white is usually associated with purity and general goodness. (at least according to my google search and I also have no idea if the meaning in Thailand is different, I'm trying my best here)
But if white in this drama is meant to be considered Talay's personal colour, then the title "Lonely Talay" would describe this episode quite well.

Based on the past outfits, white is primarily Talay's colour while Puen's is black (and this is solidified in the second scene of this ep). They often use clothing of these colours as neutrals in combination with the title colours. And there actually has been a case of Talay wearing a fully white outfit in ep 2.

I think this is the first time we're seeing Talay wearing a piece of clothing with multiple non-neutral colours and also that white lone car in the parking lot has not been shown to us before.

Magenta and blue are proving to be the colours associated with the transmigrators club since the lighting is there for the second ep in a row. Might be notable that blue is specifically only in the background whenever the focus is on Talay. Puen was originally standing in it too, but then got dragged into magenta. I'm thinking maybe magenta is the colour of the universe they're in and darker blue is the one of the world they came from. As for the clothing, there are mostly shades of white and blue with Dol once again being the only person outside the norm by wearing dark brown (or is that burgundy?).

Brown can apparently symbolise warmth, comfort and reliability which I think fits well with the snow scene where Talay was wearing a brown and black sweater. He also wore brown a lot during the last episode when the two of them had happy moments together. If that's the case, we could potentially get it as a title colour during a heartwarming and wholesome episode. But another theory I'm considering is that brown is the actual colour representing this alternate universe instead of magenta. Brown is seen in a lot of the important rooms and buildings and magenta could then potentially be linked to interpersonal relationships.

Orange/coral has been quite uncommon so far and the cinema scene in also the first one where neither of them is wearing the title colour.
Next at the bar, it's the return of that coral colour in combination with the title colour, but this time Puen is wearing them. I'm not sure if it meant anything since that scene was fairly short. That bar owner inserting blue into the scene as soon as the mood became melancholic should mean something.
After that, coral-white is back on Talay again and then he goes for a brownish orange (ochre?) t-shirt with a white bag while Puen is seen wearing gray 3 scenes in a row.

Also last thing I've noted is that Talay has fully returned to wearing clothing with patters, he's worn a lot of striped and one checkered piece. It was only for this particular episode though, in the next one he went back to wearing plain clothes.


Ep 6: Fire yellow
This is one of the most uncommon colours throughout the first 5 episodes, it's only been shown in the background through lights and the bars in their scriptwriting room. However, the only time it was presented on clothing was Talay's shoulder bag during the hedge maze scene.

In the first flashback the blue lighting in Tun's room was missing. It was one of the uncommon moments of Puen wearing white while Talay wore the title colour before it was revealed. Second flashback has Talay wearing yellow again and I've also realised that during the past 2 eps Puen has been picking t-shirts in the colour range between beige, brown and grey.

I feel like it might be important to note that they had the conversation about where to live and what's next in the magenta room.

The transmigrators are once again wearing blue in combination with the title colour with Dol being the exception, but interestingly there's also one person in orange and one in dark pink(?).

Talay wore black during the scenes when he had no patterned clothing on and stripes had only made return with that greenish yellow sweater which he paired up with white.

It makes a lot of sense that the scene with sparklers and yellow fence is in this ep. I guess yellow really might just symbolise optimism and creativity, probably also hopefulness. The last one would explain why Talay still kept his yellow shirt in the frame despite taking it off.

Tun's room has a lot of blue in it and the lighting in their garden also includes blue in combination with coral/orange which has been a very prominent colour lately.

Talay was on a yellow streak, but the blue t-shirt broke it. Interestingly, nobody wore any yellow in that scene where Puen wasn't present at all. In the RV compilation Talay only wore red. Yellow returns once the friend group is back together, but what's the most interesting here is the comeback of forest green on Puen's t-shirt.
Another instance of neither wearing the title colour, was with them both in brown. But I'm pretty sure here is also the first time we see Dol wearing ocean blue (granted the light blue nursing top doesn't count). In fact, Joob is the only one in the group wearing the title colour, she also wore a yellow-beige dress last episode, but she usually does tend to stick to blue. It's as if Joob was only allowed to not wear blue when Dol had it or wasn't in the scene at all. Since this was her last scene, I believe it could've been used to highlight that positivity and hopefulness her character had brought into the story.
Red makes a return for the second time while they're having a pondering session. But maybe they're just dressed to match the KFC box, I don't know.

The funeral scene included mostly beige, brown and blush pink from ep 3. According to this, brown could still be the symbol of the alternate universe though I no longer believe it represents warmth. In case of pink it's pointing towards negative emotions as well so perhaps loss of confidence and willpower. Dol seems to be cooperative with the colour scheme second time in a row. Talay and Puen both only wore their own colours which might symbolise how their thoughts focused on themselves without considering the outside world at that moment. The morning after, Puen is wearing blue while Talay has a combination of white and black which leads me to believe that at this point Talay's main concern were the two of them (this was also verbally voiced) while Puen was mainly considering their original universe in general (at least by my theory).


Also I'm linking the past comments in case anyone is interested in back-reading :)
Eps 1&2: https://kisskh.at/715907-vice-versa#comment-10669233
Eps 3&4: https://kisskh.at/715907-vice-versa#comment-10852355

Thank you so much for saying this! I've almost started to believe that character design really doesn't matter in dramas since most people can just memorise the faces, but I guess it's more like the viewers don't realise they could pay extra attention to the secondary features since the face is the most distinguishable thing about the actors. I guess I can perceive this as something positive about my disability :)

About the attractiveness part, I definitely should've elaborated on that more because I actually have no idea what you think my reason is haha. In reality, I can't remember or recall faces no matter how long I've known that person so every time I'm looking at someone, it's basically as if I was seeing a face for the first time in my life. Although I can recognise that Thai actors do have a more symmetrical and even facial structure compared to the average Thai person, I can hardly recognise which actors can be considered more attractive and what hairstyle or clothing suits them the best. So that's the reason why I pay attention to everything but the face of the character, I have to memorise how to distinguish them somehow.

But it is very interesting to get the insight into how many layers to beauty and attractiveness there are and how secondary features still play a big role in the overall looks of that person even if they aren't what people usually pay attention to in detail.

Also you're bringing up a great point about the production. I hadn't really thought about this before, but it makes sense that all the staff works hard to make the actors look as aesthetically appealing to the audience as possible. In that case I'm wondering where it goes wrong when some actors are said to look worse styled as certain characters (like Pavel in case of this drama).

You're welcome then, I hope you enjoy lmao.

I was looking for a comment like this to know if I should give it a try so thank you for saving my time on this one!

I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say, but I usually find western "BLs" pretty boring because of their need for a too perfect queer representation.

Yes and this is exactly why I need to remember that most people would rather have characters with similar hairstyles than actors looking less attractive because of bad choices.

I do agree that there should've been a better management regarding the hair to make it stay in one colour throughout the episode. But I personally would rather see Nuea working as a part-time chameleon if it means I can clearly recognise him as soon as he enters the room.
Same with Pavel's one, he'd just look like a different person to me with a different hairstyle and I can't see attractiveness anyways. So for me I prefer him to have as distinguishing hairstyle as possible.
(Though I want to clarify that I realise this is mainly a me problem and I wrote the original comment not to complain, but to note down my realisation as until now I thought other people needed more help with character recognition as well).

I'd personally clasify at least the first 3 eps as a slice of life story. Or as I see the genre, they're stories depicting regular everyday lives of people with no features of extraordinary or exaggerated plot. Your definition could certainly be different though!
From what I've seen, slice of life has never been a very popular genre for the exact reason that most people find it too uneventful, but I've personally always enjoyed these stories. I don't find Coffee Melody boring while there were plenty of higher rated dramas I struggled to sit through.

With the clothing, it's not that much of a symbolism, it just shows Yi's mood which doesn't really need to be pointed out. I don't recall him wearing colour other than beige in the first 3 eps, but then he suddenly picked grey for ep 4. It's nothing significant, but I liked to notice it as a detail.

This comment section is making me realise how little the people who can remember faces care about character design lol. It seems like not many others share this sentiment, but I for one love how each of the characters has a unique hairstyle which makes them easily identifiable even without knowing what their face looks like. I've never had such an easy experience with remembering characters in a drama before and it might be one of the reasons why I'm quite liking this so far (well, I also just generally like slice of life stories which seem to not be favoured around here either haha).
Also the detail of Yi always wearing beige colour, but exchanging it for grey in ep 4 was quite a nice subtle idea as well.

I feel like ep 1 was solely trying to establish the whole premise of the plot and only hinting at all the issues without properly explaining why those things were happening and the actions of the characters. It's only in ep 2 where everything starts being cleared up and explained so I'm finally less confused and have become actually interested in the story lol.

I'm thinking there's a reason why the colour is sometimes highlighted on clothes and other times in the background, but rarely both at once.

Magenta will either be a significant colour later or this episode featured special circumstances which were not eligible for including the title colour through most of the scenes.
Actually, I was just going through the episodes and noticed that there's a flashback at 6 minutes in ep 3 pt 2 with a mixture of magenta and blue (and green at the very end), very similar to the scene of Talay running in ep 4 pt 4. So I guess there might be more hints about certain colours in different episodes.

I could've sworn I had written down that exact theory, but then scrapped it and I have no idea why lmao. But I do think that's correct, it's a great observation! Either it's their pov or the colour could highlight which one of them the scene has an importance for. The instances when the colour doesn't appear at all may indicate that it's no one's pov or that the scene itself isn't important in relation to the title colour.

I hope you'll be able to notice something interesting as well then!
Also I paid no attention to the existence of ep 0 so I should probably watch that too lol.

Thank you! By any means do feel free to rewatch everything or pay more attention to the colours next ep, I'd love to see more people note down their observations and theories :)

The colour theory by clothing is still the most interesting factor of this drama for me so I wanted to continue writing down my observations :) No actual theories because I'm not smart enough for that, just things I've noticed.

Ep 3 - "Soft blush" (or just light pink)
This one is is actually really interesting since there are multiple scenes where Tun is the one wearing the title shade of colour while Talay isn't . In the first episode there were several scenes where both wore the title colour (ocean blue), ep 2 only had Talay wear forest green, but in this one they were switching it up in every clothing change. Exception was the ending where Talay ended up with the title colour twice in a row.
Also Talay mostly wore clothing with some kind of pattern on it in past 2 eps, but this time he had everything in clean colour; there were only stripes on his red suit in the very last scene. Also last interesting thing I noted is that this was the first time Tun wore red, matching Talay's red suit in another part.

Ep 4 - "Deep magenta"
Magenta, the colour located right in-between blue and red on the colour wheel. (this is a stretch, but could red be ep 7 then?)
After displaying the title, we were shown a room in magenta colours (mixed with yellow), but neither of the two was wearing a clothing in that shade. In fact, they'd changed clothes yet still kept on a piece of the same colour as in the previous scene (red and brown). Even in the first scene in the glass dome, red and brown were the only prominent colours besides the blues and greens. Magenta flowers only showed in the background of the second scene. It seems to me that the combination of brown and red appeared in the background of the majority of scenes which might be interesting since I think brown is coming up next.
The wedding bouquet's flowers, spray paint, lighting in Talay's room while he was thinking about Tun, the light in the lift and the room with Dol were all magenta. Except for the studio room, one thing these scenes had in common was Talay going through sad emotions due to Tun's actions. The only instance of Talay wearing magenta was at the very end which was also the first happy scene with this colour.

There is also a lot of blue lighting in several scenes of this episode (most notably at the end when it mixes with magenta). Blue is definitely the main colour of the drama since it has been the most prominent colour since ep 1. Considering all the transmigrators wore it at the start, it might be highlighting the important scenes to do with searching for a portkey.


The unfortunate fact is I got so into the colour observations that I currently care more about this than the plot lmao.

I'd picked up this drama completely at random and ended up liking the uniqueness of it, the girls all have strong personalities which work quite well in balance with the unconventional topics that aren't often discussed in dramas to this day.
It's a huge shame that the pacing of the story ended up ruining my experience. There were so many scenes and conversations which were completely unnecessary and dragged out and I found myself spamming the forward button in each episode. I wish this had been made as a mini series instead because I would've found short episodes much more enjoyable.

Also is it just me who interpreted the final plotwist to be that Pharm and Dean were possessed by spirits who had unfinished business on Earth and therefore couldn't leave? Korn wanted to stay with In and felt regretful towards In and his family, while In had a lot of unresolved anger at Korn and his family who he thought was the reason why Korn left him. So the spirits possessed the first new-borns and their presence began growing stronger as Pharm and Dean kept interacting. And when In finally came to understand that the two families forgave each other and he shouldn't be mad at Korn, In felt at peace and finally could leave which resulted in Korn going with him as well. That's why in their final scene they'd said goodbye to Dean and Pharm and the flashbacks stopped.

I don't know, this just makes more sense to me than Pharm gradually turning into In because he flashbacked too hard.

I feel like this must've been quite a revolutionary Thai drama back when all the other BL protagonists were too busy trying to prove that they can love their male wifeys while still being straight. However it has unfortunately not transcended its time and if this came out now it'd probably be labelled as pretty underwhelming.

On the other hand though, it's making me feel quite hopeful for the future. If this was regarded as some of the best titles in 2019, seeing how much better the dramas in every following year were proves that the Thai BL industry is changing for the better very fast and we should keep seeing improvements in the future as well.