Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh you're mcfucking kidding me rn?!?! did the universe just produce the same person type and just put us in diff places? TF? 😭Arclei:
I'm starting to think so.
I mostly avoid dairy altogether because it affects my breathing,
Oh wow, okay. My allergy isn't that intense, so I fully understand you not taking any liberties. I need you breathing.
I'm ngl, if you, the contemp romcom lover wasn't invested, I don't think I'll be getting hooked either
Yeah, cause those are two things that definitely grab me when they're done well 😅
😏 Now we just gotta not forget
I'll add it to my calendar lol.
What day would work for you?
I heard quite mixed reviews about this webtoon in particularly so I've yet to check it out.
It fizzles out quickly tbh...
Haruhi was a pleasant surprise
I love her 🖤 And I remember liking the FL in W Juliet too.
The FL in Hana Kimi left a lot to be desired though...
I cut the FL in You're Beautiful some slack because she's literally a nun 💀
(one of my earlier dramas too, which defs helps, lol).
Ah yes, those early drama goggles are HEAVILY TINTED for us all lol.
But I'm scared to rewatch it because I remember it being slow and kinda tedious
Yeah...😅
But fsr, I did not really fuck with the secondary couple at all????? Idk why cuz they're the more blatantly RR couple, but I found them more irritating than anything else.
That's a shame! They seemed interesting in the beginning.
I'm not really a fan of Sooyoung's acting either (even though I love her as a SNSD member).
I ended up getting INFP-A. I don't remember the other times, but I got ENFP twice in a row back in 2021
Believe it or not, I was getting an ENFP vibe from you. All the people I have the best convos with are ENFPs. I'm an ENTP 😊
A lot of people fluctuate between the introverted/extroverted version of the same type when taking the test, but it's because some of the questions—especially the ones pertaining to other people—are very situational/mood-related. For example, if you were drained and took the test, and got to one of the questions about spending time with people, maybe your answer was drastically different.
Your MBTI shouldn't really change, but that doesn't mean it can't. That quiz is a good baseline and entry point, but it's far from perfect, which is why I went a bit further and actually read some books by Carl Jung (the psychiatrist who came up with the theory). Learning about cognitive functions in-depth will help you type (aka categorize) yourself more accurately.
Big differences seem to be in extroversion levels. Is it cuz I thought of myself as/used to be way more extroverted before than I've been these last couple of years? I feel like I'm more of an ambivert than I initially thought myself to be, but how much is that personality and how much is that other things?
A lot of people are ambiverts instead of one extreme. It's a sliding scale. Did you happen to see the percentage bar at the bottom of your results? It shows your introversion vs extroversion percentages. So, even though E (extroversion) is part of my MBTI, I'm actually more of an ambivert too because my percentages were around 60% extroversion and 40% introversion. I like being around people, but I need a lot of solo time to recharge.
I tend to not really vibe much with these kinda things (same as zodiacs).
Yeahhhh, all I know about the zodiac is it's not based on science, just the month you were born. I had my doubts about MBTI too until I realized it was based on real psychiatry, and read Carl Jung.
haha, especially when that box keeps shoving "soft", "sensitive", and "emotional" down my throat.
LOLLLL. There's nothing wrong with those things. They're qualities the men we like possess.
But I'm not really getting that from you, which is why I guessed ENFP. They generally: thrive on emotional connection, deep curiosity, and idealistic possibilities, often acting as supportive, optimistic, and enthusiastic motivators.
They're "feelers", but they can also be very rational, which is why I have the best convos, and even debates with them.
I'll DM you more 😊
"If you feel sick, just lean over the boat! Fish love it when people are sick!"Simi_Tutu:
Bruuuuhhhhhh- you got more patience than me xD
It drives me crazy when there are just too many victims in a series; I end up thinking, 'Why should I even care about these characters?' Their cases have no effect on the main storyline.
Yeah, I have that, but also with all the characters that show up in general per case... They introduce 10+ characters per arc, force them into the spotlight for the case, and then write them off entirely at the end, and idk, I feel off about it. Maybe it's cuz I struggle to get hooked on stories, and then it feels like just when I'm starting to warm up to the characters, it's over 😭 (which is crazy since I watch so many minidramas, but the pacing is so different in those)
Warning for this drama, tho, the first case is... pretty bad 😭 And the second case is really long.
It feels like the writers are just trying too hard, and it ruins the story!
Yeah, I get what you mean...
I've kinda come to accept underwhelming villains in these kinda stories, so as long as what they do is entertaining, I'm more tolerant of plot-holes than it being boring.
In an ideal world, we would have well-rounded, well-written, AND entertaining stories and characters.
However, I realized I might have overlooked the comments where she was being celebrated, as they may have been overshadowed by the war happening in the comment section ,it was a bloodbath.
I can only imagine the kinda horrors in an idol actor's airing drama comment section... like those places are dangerous even years after that shit airs 💀
I mostly saw the posts about the secondary couple on the feeds and on tumblr so it's probably a different crowd.
I thought you said her acting was giving nothing bigger :P
A nothing-burger is still a burger, you'll just still be hungry afterwards and be very aware of what you're missing out on xD
And that was one of the better adaptationspotatocouch:
I can imagine
Not you "Pooja, what is this behavior"-ing me hahahaha.
Had to look this up cuz I was unfamiliar with it, but yes, that is spot on
it made me kind of like the ML
Wow, that is so peak. Especially coming from Thailand and their love for their red-flag MLs 👀 Maybe the IP is finally healing and growing with its audience.
If Love Is Science? stays good, then maybe that.
*sweats in episode count and length* But yeah, let me know how you like it when you finish ^^
Heard Lesson in Love is quite taboo, and knowing Taiwan, I'm scared that might be a lvl of taboo that'll make my skin crawl... The ML also seemed insufferable, but you're recommending it, so I'm thinking he's prolly not that bad. As for twisty... elaborate?
Someday or One Day was never on my radar... It has the Thriller, Romance, and Sci-Fi tags, yet still does not seem like my scene, haha
Meanwhile, I'm going to bed later and later T . T
Zamn bro... sorry to hear :/
The FL is super likable...to US. LOL.
😏
Sometimes talking to you is so trippy because it feels like talking to myself XD
I'm running out of doppelganger memes to reference xD
Okay, so lemme be brutally honest with you:
I appreciate it sm, bestie 🙏
You will hate ML for 90% of the first book—or maybe the entire thing.
Oh. Well....
I don't think I'm masochistic enough for this, tbh.
The reason I kept reading is because I love how angry and scrappy Jude is.
That is more promising than other stories; I will give them that.
I strongly suspect the author wanted to make the FL even more dominant, but her editor advised her against it because they would lose a lot of readers.
That would make a lot of sense, yeah. The curse of going the traditional route (pun very much intended).
and the book essentially describes her as wanting to be in control (😏)
I do like the sound of that~
I love that the FL is one step ahead of the ML multiple times. This is something most hardcore RRs don't even do.
You're very right, even a lot of RR media doesn't do this. We absolutely love a competent and ruthless queen
It was awful. I'm probably not gonna watch season 3. It's one of those shows that should've just been a limited series.
Spare yourself the migraine and skip fr. Ngl, so many series are best as standalones. Like, good grief, can no one write a sequel or part 2?
Now that you mention it, I don't even know if I've ever seen any Western RR dramas/movies 🤔 Any Western RR content I've consumed has been novels.
Not surprised. The landscape is surprisingly bleak despite how "progressive" they parade themselves to be. Like, how are you losing to China with all the censorship they have? Like?
I actually saw an INCREDIBLE RR western movie last year called O'Dessa. It's a literal role reversal dystopian retelling of the Greek myth of Orpheus and Eurydice.
This was near perfect.
- FL is SO young lad trying to find his way in the world-coded. Incredible.
- ML is a performer and sex worker who works under a cruel woman who mistreats him.
- FL is masculine-presenting, ML is feminine-presenting, so like 10/10 visuals (I do with they would've gone a bit more fem looking with ML but *shrugs*)
- FL falls head over heels at first sight like a young lad seeing a beautiful maiden for the first time.
- She proposes
- She wears the wedding suit, he wears a veil
- She saves him
THE ONLY downside is that... it's a sad ending. Like, it left me feeling very hollow kinda ending, so not like An Ancient Love Song, but like, proper "nah wtf" ending. But if you don't mind implied happy endings, I can tell you when to stop watching, and you can end the movie on the promise of their wedding, lol.
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Other than this, tho... Like Atlantis kinda, Treasure Planet, Castlevania had some, surprisingly The Boys... (ALL non romance-focused tho...) I've seen some more with subtext, but it's barely worth mentioning compared to the drama landscape.
Maybe a very old movie called Cutthroat Island? FL is a pirate and ML is a physician she usually has to save.
Yo, based asf rec, thank you!
Omg, it'd be a perfect watch for you and your mom! I watched it with my mom! LOL.
Omg, what are the odds?!?!
Surprisingly, my mum is an egalitarian fan and a green-flag ML STAN. She might not like RR like I do (I don't think she really gets what it is, tbh, even tho she does encourage my relationship rambles), but she really liked the RR dramas I watched with her, so... I feel like she likes RR as long as it's not the toxic kind, which fair, at least she isn't a hypocrite about disliking women abusers only. She dislikes abuse, period.
I just think she might crucify me if I bring her another dubious red-flag ML. The Prisoner of Beauty scarred us both 😭
because my girl is gonna make sure you don't cross her again.
We love to see it.
He tortured her like she was a grown man LOL. She's actually the one who trails a bamboo stick down the side of his face and says he'd make a nice boy toy before she tortures him.
That's that nasty shit I like~ RR and WHUMP!!! YES!!!
Like, I usually hate female whump because it's so... like, graphic and like you said, most often just SA. But if she gets beaten up like a man, then I'm okay with it. Teehee UwU
The way he's looking at her during this scene is crazzzzyyyyy.
Girl, these screenshots got me lowkey feral
Every time I scroll back up to reply, I have to take a moment. I feel like a repressed victorian man at seeing this pretty boy's elbows- Goodness gracious.
And his face? Oh my my, looks like someone likes being bound and toyed with, whatever will we do? The slight smugness on his face in the first two screenshots and then the look of bliss in the third? Eyes closed, chin tilted up? Like wow...
He also looks easy to manhandle, and I like that in a man. He would look really good pinned down by the arms.
Did you also have awkward moments where you and someone with trad likes bond over a feature (let's use the present example, arms), but the lens is way off? They're gushing about how big and strong they are, and you're gushing about how dainty and pretty they are, or is that just me? I have this sm with men's arms and hands because people love the bulky veiny hands, and I like pretty angel hands.
That's all to say, he has nice arms xD
What a waste to not have him in at least one RR project... Why does bro only take on projects I dislike? *pokes him with a stick* Pick better. The only promising project of his is Jiang Shan Wei Pin, which has a female government official FL and a possibly puppet-ruler ML? But that trailer made me cringe, and his co-star is an actress I actively avoid... (the very opposite of him, where she picks good projects that I wanna see and that she ruins, lol).
I must point out that they team up pretty quickly. It's enemies to begrudging allies to friends to lovers. The begrudging allies and friends phases are probably the longest.
That makes it better for me, lol.
FL's not dolled-up though. Her clothing is practical and allows her to fight.
Yeah, that's what I meant. Good to know cuz I hate the "she's a warrior but looks no different from the most feminine of women in the city with a face full of makeup and the trendiest clothes"
It picks up again for the last few episodes then delivers a happy ending.
Thanks for the info ^^
(Meanwhile, I make it through historical K-dramas all the time LOL.)
Got any reccs? I rlly liked Bloody Heart last year and the very slight RR subtext it had. Also, The Tale of Lady Ok and its RR not-so-subtext, even tho I found it too heavy to finish, yet. I have others on my radar, but for non-RR reasons
At least she made it up to me by making me a nice steak 😊
Not all wasted then, haha XD
Yeah, cause those are two things that definitely grab me when they're done well 😅
Yeah, that's what I'm saying! You're like the contemp romance connoisseur, if you found it meh... I feel like my chances are slim at best.
What day would work for you?
My schedule is fairly flexible for the coming few weeks. If that answer is too ambiguous, Fri/Sat?
Believe it or not, I was getting an ENFP vibe from you. All the people I have the best convos with are ENFPs. I'm an ENTP 😊
Not you guessing it immediately right xD That's incredible. Also interesting that you figured out that pattern.
especially the ones pertaining to other people—are very situational/mood-related.
Yeah, I feel like this is true.
I like being around people, but I need a lot of solo time to recharge.
Literallyyy meeeeee- I oftentimes need to be with people as much as I need to be alone, which I guess is why I got 53% introverted... XD I was off my 3% LMAO
LOLLLL. There's nothing wrong with those things. They're qualities the men we like possess.
EXAAAAAAAAAAAAACTLYYYYYYYY. I'm too macho for allathat!
thrive on emotional connection, deep curiosity, and idealistic possibilities, often acting as supportive, optimistic, and enthusiastic motivators.
Zamn, I'm not beating the allegations, I fear xD
They're "feelers", but they can also be very rational, which is why I have the best convos, and even debates with them.
Call me a longhorn beetle how I be feeling things (that took me an embarrassingly long time to come up with but I really wanted to make a feeler joke).
That does track, Tumblr says that our personality types are very similar and thus compatible, so it makes sense! I'm sure you can provide more context since you actually read the psychology behind it.
I actually have basically the same question about The Rational Life; I started it a while back and I LOVE the dynamic between them, it's so great to see a woman as an experienced mentor for her love interest! But I stopped watching because I saw someone on reddit complaining about his behavior after they get together, that he was too overbearing and controlling. Again, has anyone watched it all, and if so, how did they find the dynamic after they start dating?octopus_joy:
Hey, welcome back! :)
I finished The Rational Life, and adored it! I agree that it was really nice having a competent FL who the ML respected and learned a lot from.
With that being said, I'm not sure what that person on reddit was talking about. The ML is quite nurturing before they date, and makes sure FL eats and takes care of herself. After they start dating, that "mothering" just intensifies. He cooks for her, nurses her back to health when she goes to the hospital for an ulcer (or something stress-related), and washes + blow dries her hair. Maybe that was what the person on Reddit was talking about? The ML does start nagging FL about eating spicy foods and drinking coffee, but he was literally just making sure she listened to the doctor's orders because you can't eat that stuff when you've just had an ulcer 😂 But a nurturing man who takes care of most of the domestic duties and nags you like a wife is still pretty RR. He never becomes domineering or disrespectful though. He starts out a green flag and stays that way the entire show.
Hope that helps! 😊
Glory is extremely RR it one of the best ….didichan:
I couldn't sleep last night (er...this morning lol) so I started watching it, and it's super RR so far! And I was surprised it passed the Bechdel Test in the very first episode! It's very female-centric. I'm impressed!
Sniper Butterfly have set the bar too high now for me.
Same! One of the best watches of 2025 for me.
I tried watching Deep Affection Eyes and she was such a pick me
I couldn't get into it either. I didn't get far enough to see the FL being a pick-me (yikes), but the ML was too much of a tsundere for me.
Glory is extremely RR it one of the best …. They were just amazing. After watching them I wanted to rewatch it again to be honest I did 🤣.
AMAZING NEWS, thank you!! Now I wish I could just sit down and binge it all but alas I must wait for my friend so we can watch it together.
I wish I had a whole list of recs for you but I don't, I'm so bad at watching stuff lately! I guess the most RR thing I've watched (somewhat) recently is She and Her Perfect Husband, which is a very uneven show and I definitely didn't like all of it, but there are some insanely RR moments that were incredibly satisfying to watch.
He never becomes domineering or disrespectful though. He starts out a green flag and stays that way the entire show.
That is GREAT news, thank you! From what I remember the reddit person didn't like that he was trying to control what she ate, but they didn't include the medical stuff, and if it's presented more in a nagging wife way then I would be WAY more okay with it than how they were talking about it. (They did also mention that he expected sex from her in a way that they found problematic, but I could also handle that okay if he's just being whiny.) Thank you so much for explaining, now I'm planning on getting back to watching it!
Glory is SO female-centric, also, it's awesome! I really like so much about it even just three episodes in. Keeping track of all the characters is a little difficult because there's a zillion ladies AND a zillion dudes, but that's basically my only complaint. I love how Rong Shan Bao comes in like a badass anime character every time she enters a scene. 😂
Thanks to you guys I've also now put Sniper Butterfly on my watchlist! It sounds like exactly the kind of thing I'd be into. (I should be watching more modern Chinese shows because I'm studying Mandarin and they're wayyyyy more helpful for learning than historical/wuxia stuff, but I keep getting seduced by the swords and the beautiful clothes and the adapted BLs oops.)
That is GREAT news, thank you! From what I remember the reddit person didn't like that he was trying to control what she ate, but they didn't include the medical stuff, and if it's presented more in a nagging wife way then I would be WAY more okay with it than how they were talking about it. (They did also mention that he expected sex from her in a way that they found problematic, but I could also handle that okay if he's just being whiny.) Thank you so much for explaining, now I'm planning on getting back to watching it!
Ohhhhh. Yeah, they definitely should've included the medical stuff because that was the whole reason ML was nagging FL about what she ate lol. He just didn't want her to end up in the hospital again. He's very much a nagging wife.
As far as him expecting sex in a problematic way, that's more personal so I won't minimize that reddit user's feelings surrounding it. I personally didn't find it problematic because it happens all the way at the end of the drama when they've been dating for a while, and it's not done in an aggressive or domineering way. Basically the ML and FL will start to kiss or get close, and he'll look at her with puppy eyes and hint at it like, "Hey...so do you feel up to doing that tonight 🥺👉 👈." So I personally found it cute. Communication is key lol.
I should be watching more modern Chinese shows
So I'm the resident contemporary C-drama lover in the club, so I can make a few recommendations hahaha. Especially if you're open to the vertical short dramas as well).
Full-length Modern C-dramas (Jiejie Romances):
- Falling into You (Top-tier chemistry! Some good RR moments)
- My Fated Boy (Solid chemistry, but fewer RR moments)
- Love the Way You Are (Chinese remake of "Something in the Rain". Not really RR aside from the big age gap, but the FL is better than the one in the Korean ver. and the leads are cute so far; I do have it on hold)
Vertical Short Modern C-dramas:
- Forever Love (EXTREME RR. Like...I almost died. This drama is seared into my brain. I recommend it to everyone I meet)
- My Dragon Girlfriend (Very RR, funny with some touching moments)
- Wrong Wedding, Right Love! (aka The Wedding Mix-Up. VERY cute RR supporting couple. The main couple shockingly has RR moments too)
- Xun Ye (Okay, hear me out...the first half is some of the most satisfying RR I've ever seen. ML does get bold in the second half, but FL is still very much in control of the relationship and ML is still a big simp)
Enjoy~
So I'm the resident contemporary C-drama lover in the club, so I can make a few recommendations hahaha. Especially if you're open to the vertical short dramas as well).
Oh, thank you so much for the recommendations!! I had two of the long dramas in my spreadsheet already but Falling into You was WAY down on the list, I think because the reviews are generally a bit mixed, but if it's good RR I'm moving it up by a lot! One of the other ones that's been recced to me is Forever and Ever, have you seen that one?
I haven't found a vertical drama that works for me yet - I do struggle a bit with the acting quality, but also when it comes to RR, I really want the guy to like that she's dominant, and the few that I've tried have been more of him suffering rather than enjoying it (at least at the start). But I really haven't explored that far in the genre and I keep meaning to try more of them, so thank you so much for the list!!
Also I appreciate the further info on Rational Life, it really does seem like I'll keep enjoying it and I'm excited to pick it up again. <3
Hi, friends, I joined a while back and chatted for a bit
Heya, nice to see you again!
it is so incredibly RR. Hou Minghao's beautiful little supplicant face as he kneels at Gulnezer Bextiyar's imperious feet omg!
I know right?! I just started it today, and it's incredible so far! Everything I've seen about this drama was exquisite, so I had to start it ASAP.
I do think it should stay RR throughout, idk how they'd manage to spin this in a traditional way at the end (but never say never, it's China, lol). Fingers crossed it doesn't, I'm quite optimistic about this drama and haven't heard anywhere that it flips the roles.
Though if they pull a "fixing" the matriarchy/matrilineal arc... imma lose my mcfucking shit.
I actually have basically the same question about The Rational Life; I started it a while back and I LOVE the dynamic between them, it's so great to see a woman as an experienced mentor for her love interest!
That sounds adorable and right up my lane!
it's like they're saying that a fulfilling romance can't exist unless the dynamic changes!
Yeah, bro, I LOATHE it, so dang much!!!!! It also falls under one of, if not outright, my most hated storytelling pet peeve, the bait-and-switch. Baiting you with one thing then switching it up once they hook you and doing something else entirely.
I've seen this trope far too many times, so I unfortunately have gotten somewhat used to it and am tolerant of RR-to-egalitarian. But RR-to-trad? Nah, that's hot garbag.
but there are some insanely RR moments that were incredibly satisfying to watch.
We were just discussing this drama yesterday! Do tell!
Keeping track of all the characters is a little difficult because there's a zillion ladies AND a zillion dudes, but that's basically my only complaint.
Already by episode 1, I pulled out my "extremely long political drama character tracker" maker. Takes a bit of work, but it's worth it to remember who is who, cuz yeah, there's SO many people- It's giving Encanto (which was also matrilineal) xD
but I keep getting seduced by the swords and the beautiful clothes
Same......... I'm always watching at least two historical cdramas. Beautiful men with long hair in distress are simply too tempting, and I am a simple scholar... I must admire beauty
I keep picking up terminology that would have me laughed out of China. But it's nice to know how to yell "GUARDS" when my brothers irritate me and cosplay sleazy minister when my mum brings up family plans, so, at least there's that?
but also when it comes to RR, I really want the guy to like that she's dominant
I know the feeling. It often feels like being dommed is a punishment that he can get revenge for later on in the drama (that is, if he doesn't realize he likes it, which is the best case scenario ofc)
From the ones @Potato recced, "The Wedding Mix-Up" has a very eager ML. The Alluring Night (夜色撩人 ) also (like good grief does he want her so bad), and Na Ge Nan Ren You Cha You Jiao too (he chases her first, actually).
Despite that, can't recommend Forever Love enough cuz it's just such peak RR, but it's forceful at first, so... not everyone's cuppa.
Then I tried Moonlight Reunion which was supposed to be great RR story... I needed up liking story but the leads bored me to tears..
I had the opposite with Moonlit Reunion. I loved the leads but thought the story was rather boring, haha
Then I tried JadeWind... I can't understand for the life of me why people wanted these two in a drama...
I see what you mean. This drama ended up being more disappointing than I was hoping...
I couldn't sleep last night (er...this morning lol) so I started watching it, and it's super RR so far! And I was surprised it passed the Bechdel Test in the very first episode! It's very female-centric. I'm impressed!
.................
Maybe we'll end up starting it at the same time, lol
Maybe I should become a fortune-teller cuz wtf? No, like seriously, wtf? How???
Last night as I was lying in bed contemplating life, I decided that today I was on god gonna start this drama because nothing was hitting, and then today I did and... I am genuinely at a loss.
What ep are you on?
After they start dating, that "mothering" just intensifies.
Nagging mommy bf my beloved 🙏😩🥺🥵💗
I never knew what to expect from this drama, so I never kept it high on my priority list, but after Guardians of the Dafeng, I'm lowkey eager to see Dylan Wang again, and a bbg RR noona romance drama sounds like the perfect place, sooooooooooo. I'll revisit after I finish Sniper Butterfly, lol
But a nurturing man who takes care of most of the domestic duties and nags you like a wife is still pretty RR.
Abso-fucking-lutely!!!!! That's the dream, tbvh.
Not meant for me, but thanks for the info anyway :P
