rangsmoonlight:
Italophilia:
Currently watching Dazzling
Me too and really liking it, but I wasn't sure it would count as historical. It didn't seem old enough.
The one I’m watching is modern not historical
I think they mean this is the page for Historical C Dramas, though its easy to get off track of the topic when you get excited about something and want to share. Sounds like both of you are enjoying it.
I'm personally waiting until 2300 my time for Ashes To Crown to start airing so I'm off watching Thai dramas for now.
ElementalStar:
Currently watching Dazzling
Me too and really liking it, but I wasn't sure it would count as historical. It didn't seem old enough.
The one I’m watching is modern not historical
I think they mean this is the page for Historical C Dramas, though its easy to get off track of the topic when you get excited about something and want to share. Sounds like both of you are enjoying it.
I'm personally waiting until 2300 my time for Ashes To Crown to start airing so I'm off watching Thai dramas for now.
Oh my bad I forgot ..
Haha
Ashes to Crown: first 4 episodes are up and I am 100% sure I watched this exact plot in a vertical drama. But this is my bread and butter. I absolutely love rebirth trope and I'm going to enjoy this.
It's kind of hard to judge this objectively seeing as the trope is my bias, but I think other people might find this an okay watch. It's nothing spectacular unless you love political backstabbing and plotting. My bias opinion is utter joy. I want to binge the whole drama now. 😆
I believe there is like 3 historical revenge dramas with similar plots coming out but the only one I can remember is Princess Reborn which I'm also looking forward
I am looking forward to that one!! Gonna binge it when it's fully released since it seems like my cup of tea too. It's the rebirth and revenge propaganda all over again and it works on me every damn time, I love this trope so much too!
I think I find any drama adaption of Qian Shan Cha Ke's novels pretty similar to Ashes to Crown but I'm happy we'll be getting lots of these typa dramas in the upcoming seasons >o<
VelvetLady852:
I finished A Splendid Match yesterday. The cast did a great job, and I especially like Ci Sha, Ren Min and Winwin! They were excellent in their roles. A special mention to Ci Sha, who gave a compelling portrayal of Chen Yan Yun 👍. I also like the supporting characters such as Qing Pu, Chen Yi, the young emperor, Gu Lan (I like her development) etc.
The main leads' romance is one of the strong points for me. Their chemistry is 🔥.Their interactions feel so natural and real, and their intimate and romantic/sweet moments are a joy to watch! I also appreciate that they showed the family/social dynamics and political intrigue in the drama. However, the ending feels rushed. Would have been good to have more episodes (not sure if they are still constrained by the 40 episode rule) or an epilogue to tie up other parts of the plot. Despite this, I still find ASM to be a very good, enjoyable and entertaining drama overall ❤️.
I happened to read here and there about the abrupt ending, mad in love FL post wedding, and a character's unexpected death. And I think maybe it's not for me since it's heavily focused on romance. Though, the douban rating increased 0.2 points to 5.9 as compared to the first posted rating. It's a good sign. Still, I'll skip it.
I'm still considering watching The Lead or not, I add it, ptw it, delete it and add it again. I love opera themed dramas and alike, but seems like FL is cursed to bear all kind of bad lucks and sufferings. Ow, that sounds awful, though FL looks like a happy-go-lucky person so it's a plus. It also has 4% cctv rating and 8.2 douban rating. I better wait for the finale before deciding.
autumn iris:
Completed The Heir
I completed this drama too. I haven't read the story so for me this drama was a big hit. Its been a looooong time since a cdrama kept me binge watching.
I prefer the way the drama deals with the Tian family, with only Ronghua surviving. Li Zhen is a great character and the actress is phenomenol but honestly her interactions with her grandfather stole the show for me. He is the real heart of the show while she is the main lead.
The intense details of ink making were great to watch and how the ink is used as a mirror of what is happening to character's lives in the show was brilliant.
amdream_weaver:
I completed this drama too. I haven't read the story so for me this drama was a big hit. Its been a looooong time since a cdrama kept me binge watching.
I prefer the way the drama deals with the Tian family, with only Ronghua surviving. Li Zhen is a great character and the actress is phenomenol but honestly her interactions with her grandfather stole the show for me. He is the real heart of the show while she is the main lead.
The intense details of ink making were great to watch and how the ink is used as a mirror of what is happening to character's lives in the show was brilliant.
Actually not only her, her mother and her second brother also survive. Tian Ronghua uses all kind of things to let her family avoid punishment in money laundry case and uses her connection with that sage to win tribute ink competition, she also pays someone else to make the princess' consort mother birthday party but submit it as Tian family's ink. Her second brother does so many bad things on his own and assisting the older brother doing so many bad things, being released after 3 years doesn't make sense. He ruins ink market price then lending money with big interest and seizing their property after failing to pay, causing at least one body count (that suicidal ink maker) which is blatant crime. He also previously making false accusations, seizing pines and hitting people who don't want to sell it. Saying he's a fool and let him out of punishment so easily while he clearly enjoys every single things he does is too easy for him. While her mother assisting in every crimes Tian family does, it look like small helps but she's always the mediator when there's conflict of interests, such as planning to marrying her daughter 3 times to rich or powerful men.
Right, Li eight grandfather is really good. Actually everyone is really good. Tian Ben Chang is really good too. But his personality change is too drastic. From a kind-hearted kid who brings all his and his sister's saving to save a friend (Li Zhen) to protesting his future brother in-law over his sister's concubine treatment to let Li Zhen flee when wanting to capture Luo first son to become one-dimensional psychopatic villain who only think of money, power, and himself. Where is the love? He used to love his family and Li Zhen.
And I do wish more from Li Zhen and Luo Wen Qiang. He has become like accessories who only appears when Li Zhen needs it, that's quite a pity of Han Dong Jun's talent.
And I do wish more from Li Zhen and Luo Wen Qiang
Agreed. In the drama his role is very much like a support role. The drama could have entirely done without him. Even though the actor is very good, the role he was given did not add to the plot at all. his younger version of the kiddo was soooooo adorable though! Young Wen Qiang and his brothers interactions (so few) were very cute.
Hmmm it seems like Ronghua's role in the drama has been sanitized then. She appeared more a white character in the show.
Agreed. In the drama his role is very much like a support role. The drama could have entirely done without him. Even though the actor is very good, the role he was given did not add to the plot at all. his younger version of the kiddo was soooooo adorable though! Young Wen Qiang and his brothers interactions (so few) were very cute.
Hmmm it seems like Ronghua's role in the drama has been sanitized then. She appeared more a white character in the show.
I don't read the novel, just an article, but seems like in the novel he does have bigger portion of appearances. Right, right, Han Dong Jun is good. And yes, the child counterpart is super cute with super big eyes, cheeks like buns, and cute short height.
I'm talking about Ronghua in the drama. Well, seems like just because she agrees to help Li Zhen to report foreign ink trade (Eh well maybe it was the name? That illegal business Tian Ben Chang operated suggested and helped by Marquis Wu's son) which also let her avoid that arranged marriage as a concubine to a soon-to-be retired official with 1.000 taels dowry. So is she a good person? I'm not really sure. From law perspective, she shouldn't be able to avoid punishment but could get much lighter sentence because she's reporting a crime. But she still using her ex-fiancee's power to manipulate the law which let only his family accountant being punished in money laundering, bribery, and Luo's properties robbery (Shouldn't a criminal properties in that era be consficated by the government?). She's also using that sage's influence to blatantly make Tian family win tribute ink when all juries are about to decide Chen family win by saying there's a fly around Chen family ink. How come there's no fly before he comes? The third one about renting a master not from Tian family to make a birthday gift, since it's a fail and it's not fatal, don't count.
But it's up to scriptwriters to decide a character's fate. I give The Heir 9/10 anyway.
I give The Heir 9/10 anyway.
You are way more generous I am!! I gave it an 8 which is actually pretty high for me. I agree, it was odd to see her escape all punishment. Maybe because she has married into another family and is not considered a part of Tian family anymore? I seem to remember that women were sometimes spared as reason. But yes she has done some shady stuff for sure, also used her power/ ties with the powerful figures at court for benefits for the Tian family. I think because she finally regretted what has happened and made the right call to help catch her brothers in foreign trade, she was not given a dismal ending.
I think I will start Mo Li tonight. Will keep yall posted!!
You are way more generous I am!! I gave it an 8 which is actually pretty high for me. I agree, it was odd to see her escape all punishment. Maybe because she has married into another family and is not considered a part of Tian family anymore? I seem to remember that women were sometimes spared as reason. But yes she has done some shady stuff for sure, also used her power/ ties with the powerful figures at court for benefits for the Tian family. I think because she finally regretted what has happened and made the right call to help catch her brothers in foreign trade, she was not given a dismal ending.
I think I will start Mo Li tonight. Will keep yall posted!!
Not sure about the law at Ming dynasty, but actually in the drama, Tian Rong Hua's late ex-fiancee accidentally dies before the wedding ceremony. Xu family's daughter (the mother of the ex-fiancee) says it's regrettable that Rong Hua can't marry to her family but she always want a daughter so she'll treat Rong Hua as if Rong Hua is her own daughter.
Am I generous? 9 for me is the standard point for a good drama. Hehe, beside it has both Yang Zi and Han Dong Jun, my favorites. I can't go lower, but I also don't want to blindly give 10. 10 is for drama that moves me and makes me feel various emotions.
Good luck with Mo Li! I'm gonna skip it. But looks like it'll be popular. Instead I'm watching Whisper of Desire, a quite sensual Thai drama set in 1927 with cheating as the main conflict. Like a typical lakorn, FL is a damsel in distress; here she has toxic in-laws, being ignored by her husband (Film Thanaphat) some time after marriage, being disliked by her mother in-law who's like a jealous woman trying to hide her from the world and so let her does maid's work like cooking and feeding FL's father in-law who's suffering from stroke, being targeted by her brother in-law's wife because her brother in-law wants to sleep with her, being ignored by her own father, being targeted by her husband's boss' daughter who likes her husband. Then a 'gift' from heaven comes in the form of a young and handsome driver employed by her husband, so it's time to eat? I never understand why people cheats on their partner, but sometimes when I'm in the mood, I watch this kind of drama for entertainment only. Anyway, it's 8 eps, a quickie. But yes, I get distracted now so maybe I'll finish it tomorrow.
I'm watching Whisper of Desire,
I have tried multiple Thai dramas and I just can't manage to finish them..... they feel over the top somehow, similar to Indian dramas and I just don't enjoy them. Good luck with this one!
I have tried multiple Thai dramas and I just can't manage to finish them..... they feel over the top somehow, similar to Indian dramas and I just don't enjoy them. Good luck with this one!
Hee, I used to dislike Thai drama back in 2011 though I watched all of Mario Maurer's movies. He's handsome (back then). But it's all before Home School. After that, I went to watch Thai BL and Thai lakorn. It made me feel. I could feel my blood boil while watching Thai dramas, and I like that feeling so much. You could start from movies. You could try Homestay, How to Make a Million before Grandma Dies and One for the Road which were all touching and sad. For comedies; Diva la Vie, Pee Mak, and The Con-Heartist were hillarious. And Bad Genius won so many awards (maybe HtMaMbGD won more), you might get interested.
As for Indian drama, I don't watch them. But I watched movies. If you still want to try; My Name is Khan, Pink, and Three Idiots were great. My Name is Khan was sad and touching, Pink was cool but unrealistic (because it's India), and Three Idiots was ridiculous and hillarious.
Ofc it's only if you still want to try. Sorry I went out of topic. I can't not giving recommendations ...
