As I've been reading your reviews, I see how often we completely disagree on a series. This one was one of my…
I always think that you are meant to like the ML's in drama's, hoping that they will split up or one will die is a little problematic for a love story. I spent the last two episodes hoping that the potter would beat him to death , burn the body in the kiln and then use the ash to make a vase. The longer the drama went on the more I grew to hate him, he had ample opportunities to tell the truth, but continued to lie and be devious. I can understand why people liked the drama, but I would have left him freezing at the bus stop.
He actually didn't ignore it, he did ask questions, but he never really pushed for answers or got upset when those…
I only watched a couple of episodes and there was no real questions or answered during those episodes, but later I did see a clip from episode 5 when he finally admitted the reason why he left. He could have told him in episode 1 and it still isn't good enough, he ghosted him, ignored all his emails and didn't care that he was hurting his friend, but the reason he left was because he loved him?
Drama is based on a 700 chapters novel. I think what we are seeing is very much a condensed version. I like this…
LOTR's trilogy was based on a novel and they managed to fit it all into 3 movies, season 1 of JOY OF LIFE adds up to around 24 hours. My main problem with the drama isn't the length, but the lie, there is no season 2 or season 3, it is all one season. If you are going to make a drama with 96 or more episodes then people should be told that before they start watching it.
I liked this drama at the beginning, but now I am on episode 11 and I just can't see me finishing it. We started the drama with one cuck husband with an annoying wife, now we have 3 cuck husbands with annoying wives and it's only going to get worse
It was good at the start, but it got really boring around episode 14 and even though I keep fast forwarding, it really isn't helping it get any better. I keep watching and waiting for something to happen and it never does, only 3 more episodes to go and I think it's going into clown world now
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My original comment never really went into too much detail about the drama, mostly just pointing out how vile and unlikeable all the characters are. You are correct that my comments are now more about BL in general, this happened when people messaged me and started defending BL drama's, sometimes you will get bullying, but mostly there isn't a lot of violence in BL. I am a gay man and I don't believe people are confused about their sexuality, I think that every boy knows the day he starts masturbating what turns him on sexually. Most of the time in BL the straight person never actually is gay, he normally says something stupid about how he only loves this one particular boy. A conversation that would be nice, one that I have always wished for is for the straight boy to admit that he is gay, that he pretended to be straight because of social or family issues. A boy finding someone who accepts and loves him, giving him the courage to be proud to be himself is a much better story that what normally happens. I have always got the impression that the people who make BL drama's hate Gay people, Gay people in BL are either screaming queens or rapists. When someone turns gay they never really are gay, it's like the writers never want to put someone in a box, that everything must always be fluid. When talking about RL I have not really gone into too much detail, you are correct when you say that the rape in RL is more like GOT than other BL. My problem with RL is that everyone is horrible, some side characters should be horrible because their job is to cause problems and make the drama exciting, but the ML's shouldn't be horrible. The ML's can be bad or wrong at the beginning then change and redeem themselves, but only something are forgivable. The other problem with making everyone horrible is nothing really matters in the end, when CC finds out that WSW is lying to him, how can he be upset by it, he is lying to the GF in the same way. We are meant to be cheering these people on, hoping that they find love and a happy ending, but why should I care about all these nasty, horrible people? I have no problem with people attacking me or disliking my comments, they like to make it about me rather than defend the drama. I don't think my comments are ever going to change BL drama's, they are deliberately made this way because that is what the target audience want. I just think it is a shame that they use the Gay community to make money in such a negative and nasty way
As time goes on, stories are becoming increasingly bland due to constant censorship. In the U.S., romance has…
I have never seen any of the drama's that you mentioned, I will keep them in mind, but I don't think I will be watching anymore BL for a while. I stopped watching BL months ago and this one was my way back, it didn't go well. I have thought a lot about your previous comment and examples of toxic/ bad behavior in other genre's and I still have to say, I disagree with you. In GOT's she was raped and fell in love with her rapist, but there was much more to the story. She was sold to him, she did fight him at the time and was hurt and angry after, she also didn't have many other options but to stay with him. He didn't rape her because he loved her, he did it because she was his property and in his eyes it wasn't rape. They also showed other rapes in the show and did not romance them, they showed them for being a terrible act of violence against someone. In 50 shades of grey ( Written by a woman ) it ended with her leaving him. In the next chapter they did get back together on her terms. I am sure that there are going to be very questionable movies made in all genre's, but in BL it's not just the odd author or film company that make them kind of stories, the foundations of BL is them kind of stories. Nearly all BL authors write the same toxic and abusive stories and nearly all film companies make them, it is an agenda that is pushed and normalized. I have been constantly told that it's only fiction, that somehow making stories that tell it's viewers that if you love someone you should get them drunk and rape them is OK. Stories that will not punish people who do bad things, but say that it is good and that it shows love. The same people who are telling me that it's only fiction are the same people calling me a clown, telling me to shut up and go away. They are the same people who have a very different opinion when they write comments, praising the drama, loving the characters and hoping that the straight boy will turn gay and end up with the other guy. It seems that positive opinions are allowed for fiction, but negative one's are pushed aside because it's just fiction. When the parents don't accept the son for being gay in drama's, all the people who call it just fiction see it in a very different light. If the husband was a wife beater or a child molester who never got punished, would the audience be upset, or would they just say it's only fiction. You said that you agreed with the comment above ( by another commenter ) He didn't once mention the horrible comments that have been thrown at me, someone even said that my comments were breaching public harmony and it's an offence. He did defend the people enjoying these drama's though, he didn't think they should be made to feel bad for watching them. I obviously should be made to feel bad for criticizing drama's for normalizing rape and pretending it's a good way to show you love someone, but if you enjoy watching it, you are very normal and you shouldn't be made to feel bad.
As time goes on, stories are becoming increasingly bland due to constant censorship. In the U.S., romance has…
History 4 is probably the most disgusting BL ever made, I hated it, but there was a lot about it that I liked. People keep saying it's only fiction, but like you said, there are some people who want to control the actors lives and still see them as the character from the show. The film studios don't help the situation though, and a lot of the actors play along during interviews. You are correct that CC is learning to respect WSW's boundaries, I would have preferred if he had just thrown him out the door. It is obvious he is not being sincere, but who can throw stones in glass houses in this drama. I would say that everyone can identify with the characters at some point, we all know right from wrong or what behavior we would accept from someone. I watched a BL years ago and I absolutely hated one of the ML's, he was controlling and manipulating, constantly playing games to get what he wanted from the other ML. He was a terrible person and when he was murdered in season two I cheered, but then I thought about it and realized that I was just like him when I was younger., it did make laugh. Thank you for being respectful with your comments, we don't always have to agree, but we can still be civil
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I can understand the points you are making, but most of the examples you used are from fantasy fiction shows or set in a different time when the dynamics of relationships were very different. Yes, bad behavior can be found in other genre's, but it's not prolific or accepted in the same way. I still don't believe that other genre's glorify bad behavior the same way that BL drama's do, the violence and rape in BL seems to be a formula that carries on in nearly every BL drama. The other problem I have is probably my own problem, I always believed that BL drama's were Gay drama's and the way Gay people are portrayed I find very insulting. When watching a drama we should be invested in the characters and hope the drama ends happily, but his mother is the only nice person in the drama.
Oh noes, someone's aaaangy about the big bad characters being meanies. lol Another 🤡who doesn't have critical…
I think you mean boring, it's rather pathetic that you write to me with your stupidity and can't even manage to have a normal conversation without lying constantly.
As time goes on, stories are becoming increasingly bland due to constant censorship. In the U.S., romance has…
I have never watched Love Actually so I can't really say if their was any questionable behavior, maybe if you are going to use it as an example you could have listed the problem in the movie. Twilight the movies about bloodsucking vampires and werewolves is an odd choice to compare to normal love story. I can't remember any rape in the movies, in fact, even though they were terrible movies the love story was very innocent. A love triangle were both guys respected and protected the FL with their lives. What bad behavior was glorified? 50 shades of Grey is another movie I have never watched, but I don't believe he raped her, from what I understand it was a movie about two consenting adults into kink roleplay. I have never seen 365 days, but I googled it and it got terrible reviews. Did she fall in love with the man who kidnapped her or was he punished? Game of thrones was a very violent show with rape, but I think all the bad people were punished or had a redemption arc. I have never seen Outlander, it was set in a different time so that would need to be taken into account when judging the show, but what bad behavior was glorified? Pretty woman was about a prostitute who had never actually had any clients before the ML. The premise of the movie might be slightly questionable, but what bad behavior was glorified? The only time someone tried to rape her he was punished. Snow white was a fairy tale written in 1812, I don't know anything about the original story, but the Disney cartoon didn't have a dead 7yo taken away by a prince. I don't think any of your examples show any form of bad behavior being glorified.
As time goes on, stories are becoming increasingly bland due to constant censorship. In the U.S., romance has…
Breaching public harmony is offensive ? Are you mentally challenged ? I wrote a comment about a drama, if you don't like my comment then don't read it. Are you and the rest of the clown the only people allowed to write comments? You think I am wrong when I say that BL glorifies bad behavior, but you never bothered to prove me wrong. How is having someone date the guy who raped them not glorifying rape? The ML in this drama loves his snakes, but in the first episode he is organizing snake fights to the death. After winning the bet he takes the other guys lover for sex, later he leaves the guy to be gang raped by all his men. Will he be punished for any of these crimes or will they all be ignored and end the story with him happily in love with the straight guy.
Boring and bland thing. Just stick to high school bl. Nobody is forcing your lame self to watch it
Clowngurl can't even be original, I've already said the same thing to the other moron. When are you going to write something about the drama, you only want to talk about me?
Oh noes, someone's aaaangy about the big bad characters being meanies. lol Another 🤡who doesn't have critical…
I don't think you understand what critical thinking is, maybe google it before writing it again. I am not sure if you are dense or just pretending to not understand my point, but your convoluted reply that is mostly lies and stupidity doesn't help. I will try to make it simple for you, in movies and drama's the villain is not the hero, at the end he loses and the movie/drama ends with him not happy. Shockingly, this is what all the audience are cheering for! In all other love movies/drama's the villain is not the hero, no one wants him to win the girl/guy and have a happy ending. People want the girl/guy to find someone else and end happily. Shockingly, this is what all the audience are cheering for! ONLY IN BL, will the villain be the hero, will the rapist be the love interest, will the straight boy turn gay after being drunkenly raped, Why is this? I can only assume that the reason is because people with low moral character watch BL drama's. ONLY IN BL THE FICTION IS LIKE THIS SO STOP USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE!
As time goes on, stories are becoming increasingly bland due to constant censorship. In the U.S., romance has…
Fictional love stories are the reality we wish we got in real life. In drama's you are not sitting by the phone for a call that never happens, the guy/girl always comes back and tells you they love you and there is always a happy ending. Only in BL ( it does mean LOVE right? ) the love story start with a drunken rape because that is everyone's fantasy. Do you really believe that glorifying violence and rape in drama's is OK because it's fiction and we should be able to distinguish fantasy from reality? Why is it that in no other genre do we have such low morality, only in BL do we say it's only fiction so anything goes?
The longer the drama went on the more I grew to hate him, he had ample opportunities to tell the truth, but continued to lie and be devious.
I can understand why people liked the drama, but I would have left him freezing at the bus stop.
My main problem with the drama isn't the length, but the lie, there is no season 2 or season 3, it is all one season. If you are going to make a drama with 96 or more episodes then people should be told that before they start watching it.
You are correct that my comments are now more about BL in general, this happened when people messaged me and started defending BL drama's, sometimes you will get bullying, but mostly there isn't a lot of violence in BL.
I am a gay man and I don't believe people are confused about their sexuality, I think that every boy knows the day he starts masturbating what turns him on sexually. Most of the time in BL the straight person never actually is gay, he normally says something stupid about how he only loves this one particular boy.
A conversation that would be nice, one that I have always wished for is for the straight boy to admit that he is gay, that he pretended to be straight because of social or family issues. A boy finding someone who accepts and loves him, giving him the courage to be proud to be himself is a much better story that what normally happens.
I have always got the impression that the people who make BL drama's hate Gay people, Gay people in BL are either screaming queens or rapists. When someone turns gay they never really are gay, it's like the writers never want to put someone in a box, that everything must always be fluid.
When talking about RL I have not really gone into too much detail, you are correct when you say that the rape in RL is more like GOT than other BL.
My problem with RL is that everyone is horrible, some side characters should be horrible because their job is to cause problems and make the drama exciting, but the ML's shouldn't be horrible. The ML's can be bad or wrong at the beginning then change and redeem themselves, but only something are forgivable.
The other problem with making everyone horrible is nothing really matters in the end, when CC finds out that WSW is lying to him, how can he be upset by it, he is lying to the GF in the same way.
We are meant to be cheering these people on, hoping that they find love and a happy ending, but why should I care about all these nasty, horrible people?
I have no problem with people attacking me or disliking my comments, they like to make it about me rather than defend the drama.
I don't think my comments are ever going to change BL drama's, they are deliberately made this way because that is what the target audience want. I just think it is a shame that they use the Gay community to make money in such a negative and nasty way
I have thought a lot about your previous comment and examples of toxic/ bad behavior in other genre's and I still have to say, I disagree with you.
In GOT's she was raped and fell in love with her rapist, but there was much more to the story. She was sold to him, she did fight him at the time and was hurt and angry after, she also didn't have many other options but to stay with him. He didn't rape her because he loved her, he did it because she was his property and in his eyes it wasn't rape. They also showed other rapes in the show and did not romance them, they showed them for being a terrible act of violence against someone.
In 50 shades of grey ( Written by a woman ) it ended with her leaving him. In the next chapter they did get back together on her terms.
I am sure that there are going to be very questionable movies made in all genre's, but in BL it's not just the odd author or film company that make them kind of stories, the foundations of BL is them kind of stories.
Nearly all BL authors write the same toxic and abusive stories and nearly all film companies make them, it is an agenda that is pushed and normalized.
I have been constantly told that it's only fiction, that somehow making stories that tell it's viewers that if you love someone you should get them drunk and rape them is OK. Stories that will not punish people who do bad things, but say that it is good and that it shows love.
The same people who are telling me that it's only fiction are the same people calling me a clown, telling me to shut up and go away. They are the same people who have a very different opinion when they write comments, praising the drama, loving the characters and hoping that the straight boy will turn gay and end up with the other guy.
It seems that positive opinions are allowed for fiction, but negative one's are pushed aside because it's just fiction.
When the parents don't accept the son for being gay in drama's, all the people who call it just fiction see it in a very different light.
If the husband was a wife beater or a child molester who never got punished, would the audience be upset, or would they just say it's only fiction.
You said that you agreed with the comment above ( by another commenter )
He didn't once mention the horrible comments that have been thrown at me, someone even said that my comments were breaching public harmony and it's an offence.
He did defend the people enjoying these drama's though, he didn't think they should be made to feel bad for watching them.
I obviously should be made to feel bad for criticizing drama's for normalizing rape and pretending it's a good way to show you love someone, but if you enjoy watching it, you are very normal and you shouldn't be made to feel bad.
People keep saying it's only fiction, but like you said, there are some people who want to control the actors lives and still see them as the character from the show.
The film studios don't help the situation though, and a lot of the actors play along during interviews.
You are correct that CC is learning to respect WSW's boundaries, I would have preferred if he had just thrown him out the door. It is obvious he is not being sincere, but who can throw stones in glass houses in this drama.
I would say that everyone can identify with the characters at some point, we all know right from wrong or what behavior we would accept from someone.
I watched a BL years ago and I absolutely hated one of the ML's, he was controlling and manipulating, constantly playing games to get what he wanted from the other ML. He was a terrible person and when he was murdered in season two I cheered, but then I thought about it and realized that I was just like him when I was younger., it did make laugh.
Thank you for being respectful with your comments, we don't always have to agree, but we can still be civil
I still don't believe that other genre's glorify bad behavior the same way that BL drama's do, the violence and rape in BL seems to be a formula that carries on in nearly every BL drama.
The other problem I have is probably my own problem, I always believed that BL drama's were Gay drama's and the way Gay people are portrayed I find very insulting.
When watching a drama we should be invested in the characters and hope the drama ends happily, but his mother is the only nice person in the drama.
Twilight the movies about bloodsucking vampires and werewolves is an odd choice to compare to normal love story. I can't remember any rape in the movies, in fact, even though they were terrible movies the love story was very innocent. A love triangle were both guys respected and protected the FL with their lives. What bad behavior was glorified?
50 shades of Grey is another movie I have never watched, but I don't believe he raped her, from what I understand it was a movie about two consenting adults into kink roleplay.
I have never seen 365 days, but I googled it and it got terrible reviews. Did she fall in love with the man who kidnapped her or was he punished?
Game of thrones was a very violent show with rape, but I think all the bad people were punished or had a redemption arc.
I have never seen Outlander, it was set in a different time so that would need to be taken into account when judging the show, but what bad behavior was glorified?
Pretty woman was about a prostitute who had never actually had any clients before the ML. The premise of the movie might be slightly questionable, but what bad behavior was glorified? The only time someone tried to rape her he was punished.
Snow white was a fairy tale written in 1812, I don't know anything about the original story, but the Disney cartoon didn't have a dead 7yo taken away by a prince.
I don't think any of your examples show any form of bad behavior being glorified.
You think I am wrong when I say that BL glorifies bad behavior, but you never bothered to prove me wrong.
How is having someone date the guy who raped them not glorifying rape?
The ML in this drama loves his snakes, but in the first episode he is organizing snake fights to the death. After winning the bet he takes the other guys lover for sex, later he leaves the guy to be gang raped by all his men. Will he be punished for any of these crimes or will they all be ignored and end the story with him happily in love with the straight guy.
I am not sure if you are dense or just pretending to not understand my point, but your convoluted reply that is mostly lies and stupidity doesn't help.
I will try to make it simple for you,
in movies and drama's the villain is not the hero, at the end he loses and the movie/drama ends with him not happy.
Shockingly, this is what all the audience are cheering for!
In all other love movies/drama's the villain is not the hero, no one wants him to win the girl/guy and have a happy ending. People want the girl/guy to find someone else and end happily.
Shockingly, this is what all the audience are cheering for!
ONLY IN BL,
will the villain be the hero,
will the rapist be the love interest,
will the straight boy turn gay after being drunkenly raped,
Why is this? I can only assume that the reason is because people with low moral character watch BL drama's.
ONLY IN BL THE FICTION IS LIKE THIS SO STOP USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE!
In drama's you are not sitting by the phone for a call that never happens, the guy/girl always comes back and tells you they love you and there is always a happy ending.
Only in BL ( it does mean LOVE right? ) the love story start with a drunken rape because that is everyone's fantasy.
Do you really believe that glorifying violence and rape in drama's is OK because it's fiction and we should be able to distinguish fantasy from reality?
Why is it that in no other genre do we have such low morality, only in BL do we say it's only fiction so anything goes?