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Well to be honest from episode 14-20 she is one of the most ungrateful FL( doing things that no moral right person will do and letting everyone disrespect ML even while dying lul) other than that show is fine and her character is starting to develop now finally.

Again you miss the point the context was rating and mdl sub, that's where people loved the show and also like her in that role .I don't live or follow chinese media so apologises if I mistake something based on perception there.

I mean yes she has faults , but she keeps redeeming herself the very next moment or episode by apologising and make up for it that's what you need in a character unlike MOGA where we have an ungrateful FL who keeps disrespecting a guy that does so much for her.

Only things I don't like about her maybe would be her hanging out with sml who used her then tried to kill ML and invade his country and she still keeps defending him ( albeit not choosing one over another but rather she still hangs out with him and protects him from ML), which can be annoying but thts typical way cdramas use to create angst and happens in almost all shows

And hence the surprise in the ratings xd. Honestly, I think one day we will ding out there was no methodology that mdl uses rather a person was sitting behind pc and giving personal rating to shows xd

So just to calm the shit down in this comment section, here are my 2 cents xd:

1. Anyone blaming FL due to romantic reasons, hanging out with other men can't be in the right because considering many other cdramas she hasn't done anything wrong yet atleast on that part.

2. That is not to say there are no issues on FL part , because there are a lot: First she is coming out as ungrateful at multiple instances, disrespectful to the person you are collaborating with and who has saved tour life by almost sacrificing himself, dropping the guy in a second whenever possible. There are more but these are few jarring ones. I think director to some extent wanted to show her as independent, smart and to a certain extent reckless but based on 14 -21 she came out quite opposite to that.

So in hindsight this has nothing to do with gender, romance or any other relationship shitz. This is just morality of a character that is supposed to be smart and understanding going way wrong. There re multiple instances of this happening, I remember I posted like a week ago after epi 14 that I hope these are mistakes FL made and character develops further that didn't happen rather it went more downhill from there and hence the issues.To anyone using romantic obligations as reason please stop, there are none ( in ideal case there might be) so let's not call her wrong for reasons she is not. The issues is with the morality of her as a person, and disrespecting the guy who has only treated her with respect and sincerity once they got to know each other

Yes, commenting about the falts of a FL character makes you misogynist lul, than why even watch the show, when someone is doing something wrong and someone is calling them for it it's not a gender pblm it's a person problem. But yeah I am fine with romance bit and hanging out with other guys, issue with her character is she in ungrateful and keeps pulling ML into danger over and over again and let's everyone her friend, sml and even others disrespect him.This has nothing to do with romance but morality as a person

Exactly this, is what people are saying but 1-2 people keep defending fl like she is representing whole women segment as independent, straightforward FL character which is not what her actions portray her as, she is coming out aa ungrateful, selfish( to some extent) and no way near upright in how she is doing things

lol I meant eye candies , but tht shows I didn't care about iota enough to spell it right, apologies lol

I mean romantic relationship aside, she has to be one of the most morally obnoxious FL character, who is literally ungrateful, cant do shit without using Mrs. Shen title and still keeps saying exactly opposite things. I mean it like watching a 10 year even that child will have sympathy and respect for his savior:D

Again, see its like you skip the parts where it goes against anything you believe.

She knew he saved her, just rewatch the episode, her friend mentions that he saved her (she had to reexplain what it meant etc., hence why I called her dumb and no just immature), also I don't know what you watching she never apologized for that and many other things.

Second, crying at death bed and then in the next instance engages her friend into divorce and next marriage talks, she never says no please stop this the man is literally lying there (that what is being morally right means). Also as this wasnt all good enough you literally go to temple to pay for next marriage (yeah with his permission, I mean you want the guy to beg you please dont go when you literally were talking about tht when he was lying there, I mean cmon, if someone expects that and defends with this , it is straight up disrespectful), her friend telling everyone she is getting divorced and she not even drawing a line (this could literally get the guy killed I am not even going to go into romantic stuff), I mean if it was one instance you could giver her the benefit of the doubt , but she keeps disrespecting the guy.

And last, I am saying this is not even about the romantic stuff, maybe both are at issue for their relationship not developing. But that has never been the issue here, issue is she lack morality and is no way open or straight forward (unless meaning of these words changed recently). I don't want to bring modern feminism and issues with that here, I am saying this show and many others seem to be done by guys who don't understand what it stands for and people here are defending that behavior. And please stop bringing SOKP here, someone explained you above how its like comparing apples to oranges. That guy did nothing morally wrong it was "romantic relationship issue - where two end coudnt meet" , here one character is morally wrong doing this and funny enough she was the one that was even effected romantically when she left the house when he brought a witness home and never talked with her lol.

I mean except for the few most of the female centric shows are opting for this kind of portrayal at least in this and maybe some last year as well, so not sure about the future considering there are people who are fine this kind of portrayal,

Being in fake relationship means privately they don't engage in something like relationship, but publicly they are. Which ML has done everything to show, and she has done everything opposite. I won't go into he should "Man up" etc, because that doesnt even make sense when you are saying she is open, straightforward and independent (just because ML has seen so much hardship, he is more mature btw, heck it might be depressing behaviors and hence his current rep).

No one is asking her to relay her feelings or engage romantically. Issue is her morality, which seemed to have been initially portrayed as morally upright has become morally ambiguous (heck there are instances where its morally wrong). She literally when he is sorta lying on death bed (seriously injured) is engaging her friend in talks of divorce and next marriage and then straight up goes to temple (for nxt mariiage btw) and pseudo dates another guy. Not even telling anyone that its a nono. This has multiple instances of ML getting disrespected (she literally called him out on ratting out his father just after he saved her from execution and just wanted her to play safe).

Again, other than me seeing this morally wrong (and multiple more problems), issue is we have different expectations from both Ml and FL ( while in true feminist agenda its about equality, same opportunity etc. , although "woke" cultural has made the show, as exactly Opposite of misogynistic world we all hate, when aim was to reach the equal grounds) . In true sense for this show, issue is one side keeps making sacrifices and other keeps disrespecting him even after all that, this has nothing to do with romance etc. its basically being a decent, upright and realizing own mistakes,

I see, the way you watch and way you write are quite similar, you forget what you wrote and what you watch if they dont add up to your answer, you are literally explaining faults of ML and then try to make it sound neutral by mentioning no one is at fault ( oh that was so bad, apologies).
But anyways I am not trying to change you mind, maybe once you watch this how sometime later you will realize she is neither open nor straightforward, I agree that's what maybe director wanted to portray but for anyone with a minimum level of morality will realize how she is none of them based on her actions.

This went downhill, the moment they tried to pass her behaviors as reckless , instead of untrusting, disrespectful and never ever apologizing for her mistakes, instead let others keep disrespecting him just cause he starts caring for her. Its exact opposite of women empowerment if they were really trying to show that here.

Not sure when it was but she does tries to help prime minister or whatever that old guy is against him although she fails but intent was there, and thats why he was angry. But anyways, just get past 11-12 and you will start hoping he did a lot more earlier because once he starts caring poor guy just suffers and gets disrespected by everyone close to FL and her.

I mean this rating below "Melody of Golden age" is criminal lol. It has issues but cmon not below that

I mean its one sided disrespect that keeps on coming to ML and somehow that FL is still a green flag, if she was a guy the amount of hate she would have gotten by now,oof.

Again this is not a gender issue, its basically portrayal of a character where they want to show her as independent but at the same time she is entitled to do shit by using ML and he is supposed to take it all because he cant "Man up" (even though guy keeps risking his life, his mission for justice etc. for her) . People on this sub seem to be quite happy with this kind of behaviour on a FL but if its a male it becomes red flag ( not saying there arent red flag, and again not saying issue is her gender. Real issue is portrayal of her in the show, which completely negates anything around women being independent, rationale and trustworthy characters)

The same actress has love you seven times and that show got so much appraise . I agree with you that typically traffic actors also have many haters which bring down many good show ( angelababy is the best example) but blaming chongzi's failure on tht is so wrong. That was a shitty direction with a show that was cut so many times that ruined a decent story into what it was

I mean to be honest it's not bad, it's defo an 8+ atleast till now, FL keeps making mistakes and then redemption happens in the very nxt moment ( which actually is really good to see) but the only issue is what is plaguing most other female centric dramas where sml becomes more trustworthy than ML ( heck here sml.is trying to kill and invade ML country and she still hangs out with him and keeps asking ML to let him go multiple times). Other than that this show is good, hopefully now that he did wht most ML do in these dramas her character will actually.become smart and trusting:D

no it's the other drama that's ongoing rn, here atleast fl apologises for her mistakes which sort of redemps her character ( other than following sml lol), but there the FL keeps sucking ML dry with no repercussions while taunting him with the worst insult he could have , I haven't watched complete Princess royal yet I like initial episodes and acting of both leads , I mean I do see points here tht ML becomes too much of simp later but I will judge that one once I have seen tht.