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is she close to wei Yan !? so ml will misunderstood or she have boundaries with him and not act like she's his friend!? thank you

this what i fine absurd in Cdrama, if the ml was the one who slapped fl I bet you will remember and it wilybe a big deal and he will apologize about it many times, like I bet he apologize how he treated her and shoked her after he fall for her in this drama also 😮‍💨 I dislike this double standards in Cdrama,

thank you for replying

And after all this, the ML still respects them and talks to them like they’re his friends!? I really don’t get how they can make the ML give up revenge—or at least cut ties with them—just because he loves the FL, and forget that his father, brothers, and a lot of his clan died, while not one of them helped or even tried!!? And I read the FL always puts her family first, even over him! But he has to forget her family’s betrayal and even respect her grandfather!? A coward who let his friend's family get killed!!?

If I watch this, I’ll get really frustrated because I could never forget someone who betrayed me and my family, especially someone who called me a friend—and then later I’m supposed to respect him!? I would rather die than ever do that. 😮‍💨

But the ML—just because of a woman—completely changes and starts trusting her and respecting her grandfather and family, and even respects her for always putting her family first!? And he also forgives her easily for hiding the tunnel from him, just because she didn’t trust him—even after they got together!!? They really wrote him as weak for doing that, and then they used his grandma to make him feel free from guilt!?

At least he cut ties with them and didn’t become family with them just to please the FL.

Thank you—if I read the plot right, then this is definitely not something I’d watch. I hate stories where strong male generals with a mission change everything just because they fall for a woman who didn’t even trust them until near the end. And he ends up loving her completely like a loser, giving up revenge, changing his personality, and acting submissive and pathetic in love. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

Sorry for the rant. and thank you for answering

I read in a review that the grandfather of fl who killed ml father and others!? is it true or I misunderstood!!? thank you

so I get that she's the first one who wants to be real and she likes him first!? or like always ml fall first and harder and it's for some reasons he didn't say anything about it!? and after he decided to work on it he make her fall for him !? thank you

you're welcome , I always ask about spoilers because I would hate myself if I wasted my time only to end up frustrated. Like I said, the second male lead acts like he's doing her a favor by saying, "Let's break up," and he doesn't even let her say it, just so she won't feel sad — as if he's the innocent one and she used him. (Which she actually did.) But he was the one who told her to use him, and he even played tricks to get with her.Another thing: she didn't go back to the male lead until she found out he was richer than her and her supposedly "perfect" man (the second male lead), at least socially for her and her family . So it feels like she didn’t return to him because she truly liked him, but because he was rich and that what was missing at first place not that he's young 😅😮‍💨.

Just drop it. I advise you, it's a waste of time. She didn't get back to him until the last episode, and she wasn’t even the one who Initiating the breakup— it was her boyfriend "SML" was the one who said, "Let's break up and just be friends." Then she told the ML that she broke up with the SML, lol, and claimed she only liked him "ML" 😅🤣. And the ML, like a simp, accepted her easily and quickly — like he was afraid she’d change her mind 😅🤣. Like I said before, the ML is basically the SML in C-dramas, and even when the SML used tricks to make her break up with the ML and date him, she still treated him like a good friend and felt sorry for him, lol.

is she slapped him again after the first one!? and is she ever apologize about the first slap to him or they like always didn't mention it like it's no big deal!? thank you

no , and no they didn't , and no they didn't break up there a little argument but they resolved it after two episodes or something like that, and no love triangle they get married and fall for each other with time next to each other.

We're talking about two different things. Yes, she did a lot for him, but she didn’t do it out of love—she did it because she’s like Sun Tzu. She did it because it benefited her. Even the thing she hid from him was for her own benefit.

If she completely trusted him, that wouldn't be something a Sun Tzu-like mind would do, even if she liked him—because for her, her people always come first. She would never trust someone like him and put her people in danger. That’s why I said what I said.

I argue that he did more for her out of love than she did for him out of love. What she did was because she’s a strategist, so it doesn’t really count as love.

And even when she forgave him too easily—it’s all just strategy to make him fall for her , She knew the smarter move was to not make him angry or upset and also as you said, she was the perfect wife and she succeed in her plan—with the slight surprise that she didn't think about that she also ended up falling for him.

But still, she’s smarter than him—she loved him with her mind also, not like him, who loved her unconditionally. He forgot that she came from his enemies camp. That’s how he got played with that tunnel thing.

If he had loved her with his mind too, like she did, he wouldn’t have fallen for that. (Well… maybe he still would, because they gave her superpowers "the mind of Sun Tzu "🤣😅—he had no chance!)

That's another cliché, my friend. The female lead always does more in her past relationships, but with the male lead—even if she loves him—she doesn't do even half of what she did for her ex. I get that they use this to say, "With the right one, you don't need to do anything, and he will love you unconditionally and chase after you," even if you're disrespectful toward him (lol). It's just another fantasy they sell to the majority of viewers, who call this kind of male lead a "green forest"—I call them simps.

In every drama with an ex or a crush, the female lead does everything to get him to love her. She sacrifices everything. But when she likes the male lead—or even loves him—she does nothing and just focuses on her career. So many dramas are like this, if not all of them.

For example, in the K-drama Business Proposal, the male lead was a CEO who fell for her first, fell harder, and chased her like there was no other woman. She kept rejecting him, but she acted like a servant for her crush and always behaved like a little girl in front of him, dreaming of being with him. Meanwhile, the male lead just stood there watching her, waiting for her to like him. And there are many other K-dramas and C-dramas exactly like this.

Fake it till you make it" — I don’t think she did. I hate how she treated him. Even after the male lead confessed, she still didn’t accept him and even tried to be with someone else — a rich guy. She only backed off after hearing what he said, but it was clear she was seriously considering him.

Then, when her ex came back, she spent time with him and didn’t even tell him that she was dating the male lead. 😅 She never helped around the house, even though she knew the male lead liked things clean. She made a mess while working — like a child playing — and he was always the one who had to clean up after her.

It was a good drama — I watched it twice — but I dislike the female lead every single time. The way she acted with her ex, and then got mad at the male lead for spending time with his ex? That’s pure hypocrisy. She played hard to get while trying other options. Honestly, if the rich guy hadn’t said what he did, I’m pretty sure she would’ve dated him instead of the male lead, just because she thought he was the better choice

Like you said — he’s a loser, and later they make it seem like she’s doing him a favor by accepting him. And that’s exactly what the majority of viewers seem to like: a loser male lead and a “strong, independent” woman who doesn’t care about love — or at least doesn’t do anything for it. Meanwhile, the male lead has to do everything just to be worthy of her, because she’s supposedly so perfect. lol
and this is 90%of romcom kdramas dynamic

unfortunately it's kdrama even if fl only accept to be with him after all this they show it like she do him a favor, and he has to do everything else and love her unconditionally lol

Yes, and also, he’s not a "green forest" , so it’s easy to dislike him. This is exactly why I hate love triangles—10 episodes, and the main leads aren’t even together for 7 or 8 of them. Then they finally get together just to break up again, and that’s it. They don’t even get one full episode where they just love each other, and call it romance kdrama 😅🙃

To put it simply, she’s a strategist—so even when she loves him, she loves with her mind, not just her heart. But after he falls for her, he loves her unconditionally, trusts her completely, and always makes her his first priority. And I think we agree she didn’t do the same. The fact that she didn’t tell him about the tunnel is proof of that. amd it's not wrong do that because she has her valid reasons but it shows her level of love .

Yes, there are exceptions to these clichés, like The Road Home, Hidden Love, Lighter and Princess, Intense Love, and Forever and Ever—these are the ones I remember. In these, the FL also shows her love just like the ML, and sometimes she even loves the ML more than he loves her.

And you're right, it sells, so they always use this dynamic in romance to show the contrast between the ML and FL. It's always acceptable for the FL to act cold, serious, and love with her mind, while the ML is the complete opposite.

And you can feel that the FL can give up the ML’s love for her family or other things without much thought. But the ML would give up on himself if it meant getting the FL—not just his family or other things, lol. I always feel this way in romance C-dramas. In almost every one, the FL breaks up with or leaves the ML so easily, then comes back after years—she find the ML still waiting for her, and he’s the one who has to chase her again 😅🤣😅,

it ended and it's a happy ending

I think you're wrong about the trust thing . She didn’t trust him completely like he did , and they got back together quickly only because the male lead loves her unconditionally and doesn’t expect anything from her after falling in love. Even when she didn’t trust him and he got mad, he forgave her very quickly and understood why she did it. He gave up his revenge for her and didn’t put his people first like she did.

I just wanted to say this because I feel like he did 70% or more in the relationship before she even started to think that she should make some effort too.

sorry I rant about a point you mentioned.

I really don't get why they always make the strong, charismatic, masculine male lead act like a loser just because he falls in love. Meanwhile, the female lead is always charismatic, independent, strong, and mature. He ends up being made into a joke, acting like an insecure teenage virgin, just to show that he's in love and has a "softer" side — which basically just means a loser side.

Why can't the male lead be like the female lead? Even when she loves the male lead, she still thinks with her mind and never acts childish to express her love. She doesn't show love by being insecure or jealous. It's always the male leads in C-dramas who completely change after falling in love. They love unconditionally, fall first and harder, and constantly chase the female lead.

The female leads always seem to have more important things in life than the male lead or loving him. It’s always the male lead who has to change, become submissive, and forgive the female lead even when she’s in the wrong — and often without an apology. He has to prove he's worthy of her to her parents, but you rarely see a female lead doing the same for him.