Why do Mango TV and MaoYan show different view counts? Mango is already showing well over a billion views. 😅
This is the problem with having so many different charts in China measuring everything... view counts, social media popularity, discussions, heat indexes, and so on. There isn’t one unified rating system that can measure performance fairly across all platforms. I actually don’t want to care that much about all these number and rankings but since some people keep asking every now and then, I just post the numbers here for the record. At the end of the day, it’s just one drama after all 😂 There will always be people who like it and people who don’t. No drama is going to be perfect, and very few are completely bad either. It really depends on what each audience member is looking for.
What I find ridiculous is the culture of mocking actors and actresses based on these dumb metrics and rankings, especially when most people don’t even know exactly how those numbers are calculated or what they actually represent. Judging an actor’s entire career or ability based on some popularity chart is honestly so stupid.
And Zi Miao is right there on Sha Lou's left. 😅 There was even a scene last night where ZM forces a kiss on…
I saw that, and some people were even saying the forced kiss looked “hot.” I was like... what?? In the Reuters, Sha Luo is clearly trying to get away from those forced kisses, yet some people still think it’s hot? Like what exactly is hot about that???? 🫤 But then I go over to the HL thread and see people throwing around the word “pedo” about DJX... like, what?? DJX never forced himself on SZ, never tried to hurt her and was always extremely gentle with her. He genuinely loved and cared for her. and they only started dating when she was already an adult.
He even asked if he could pursue her, despite already knowing that she liked him. He never took advantage of her feelings for him or used them for his own benefit at all. Do these people even know what “pedo” actually means? 😭 😭😭
So somehow a SML forcing kisses on the FL can be called “hot,” but a character who treats the FL gently gets labeled with something as serious as “pedo”? Where is the logic in that? 😭
This is a fictional story set in a made-up kingdom inspired by dynastic China. It was never meant to be a true…
I love the old-school wuxia atmosphere and plot and that’s one of the reasons I’ve been enjoying this drama. The lack of romance or whatever doesn’t really bother me because romance isn’t my main focus anyway.
A good drama should have an actual story that gives the audience something to discuss not just the chemistry between the leads. There should be characters, motivations, conflicts, and plot developments that we can actually talk about and analyze.
Correct. It's a fictional dynasty but set in real shanzou desert region. Although not true to historical aspect.…
I really like how you guys discuss the plot and the characters’ behavior here, along with the Chinese historical aspects!! This is exactly the kind of quality discussion we want in an MDL drama thread 👏👏👏
We may disagree with each other sometimes and that’s totally fine but at least the discussions are still based on the plot, the characters and the story itself. It’s really nice and interesting to read!!! 👍
Can Fusheng director please get it right this time? CZY has really devoted himself to this drama 😭
I’m still speechless about his screen time in RB. The drama itself is watchable and I’m fine with romance not being the main focus since I’m not really a romance person anyway lol. But I just want to see more of his scenes... 😭 otherwise I have to wait for Chasing Dreams?
Also, I'm wondering. Has chen zheyuan ever play in a big budget drama? Has any of his dramas been heavily promoted?
I actually lost interest in watching C-dramas a long time ago. They just don’t appeal to me as much anymore and if it weren’t for CZY pulling me back from time to time, I probably wouldn’t watch them. A lot of C-dramas look beautiful on the surface, the costumes, sets, handsome actors, beautiful actresses, and so on but many of the drama lack the depth in storytelling that would actually keep me watching until the end. The industry produces too many repetitive dramas and relies too heavily on popularity rather than focusing on quality. Meanwhile, genuinely good dramas that don’t have huge fandoms or popular actors can easily get buried because everything is measured by things like heat indexes and popularity rankings. Compared with K-dramas, I also feel there’s much more variety in terms of genre. Romance isn’t the only genre that can become popular. Thrillers, crime dramas, medical dramas, family dramas, political dramas, and many others can also get strong ratings if they’re genuinely good.
And it’s not only handsome actors or beautiful actresses who can shine either. If an actor gives a strong performance, fits the character well and manages to convince the audience, they can still have a breakout role regardless of how popular they were beforehand or how they look.
With international C-drama audiences, romance drama gets most of the attention which makes the variety feel even more limited.
If I’m not wrong, neither Hai Shi nor Fang Zhu the main characters from Pearl Eclipse will appear as this is an alternate version of the story that focuses only on Tilan and Tang Qian Zi.
Chasing Dream isn’t exactly a prequel. It takes Tilan and General Tang’s part of the story from the novel which is only about seven chapters long. They’ll have to expand the storyline and add a lot more content beyond what’s in the novel. It will also be quite different from the drama Pearl Eclipse.
You know I reallu miss zheyuan in a relaxing travel and challenges variety show where he can make friends and…
I just came up with an idea what if CZY did a relaxing travel variety show with Azan 😂
I’ve watched some videos of their interactions and they’re just too cute together. Azan is such a happy dog whenever he’s with his gege and Mama is adorable too 🥹 dressing Azan likes a doll lol.
Something like a camping or travel show with his dog would be so nice to watch. I actually enjoy those camping-with-a-dog videos on YouTube too. They’re so relaxing, peaceful and easy to watch, especially when you just want to unwind and relieve some stress.
I don’t think that’s a real Esther fan. A real fan wouldn’t have such a dumb idea 😅 How the hell would a bad drama affect Esther as the BA when she isn’t even part of the drama? This drama has absolutely nothing to do with her and she’ll be perfectly fine. Who would blame a brand ambassador just because another drama on the platform is bad? 😂
Also, I'm wondering. Has chen zheyuan ever play in a big budget drama? Has any of his dramas been heavily promoted?
I feel like this industry is so hard to survive in. Just one poorly received drama can affect an actor’s reputation and popularity never lasts forever. That’s why I really want him to keep improving and take on a wider variety of roles. The 95-liners may be popular now, but soon there will be the 2000-liners and another new generation after them. Strong acting skills are what will help an actor stay in this industry for the long run. It’s becoming even more important now because platforms are reportedly trying to reduce the number of long-form dramas they produce and focus more on quality, after flooding the industry with too many low-quality productions.
It seems like CZY and WCR have started filming more scenes together again. WCR looks so exhausted, she must be…
Rumor has it that Fusheng will wrap filming on August 14. I hope CZY and WCR get to film more scenes together before then.
I also hope the director can still improve a few things, although it may be a little late since filming is almost finished. At least we still have the screenwriter and post-production team, so hopefully their work will be strong enough to restore our faith in the drama.
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I actually don’t want to care that much about all these number and rankings but since some people keep asking every now and then, I just post the numbers here for the record.
At the end of the day, it’s just one drama after all 😂 There will always be people who like it and people who don’t. No drama is going to be perfect, and very few are completely bad either. It really depends on what each audience member is looking for.
What I find ridiculous is the culture of mocking actors and actresses based on these dumb metrics and rankings, especially when most people don’t even know exactly how those numbers are calculated or what they actually represent. Judging an actor’s entire career or ability based on some popularity chart is honestly so stupid.
I was like... what?? In the Reuters, Sha Luo is clearly trying to get away from those forced kisses, yet some people still think it’s hot? Like what exactly is hot about that???? 🫤
But then I go over to the HL thread and see people throwing around the word “pedo” about DJX... like, what?? DJX never forced himself on SZ, never tried to hurt her and was always extremely gentle with her. He genuinely loved and cared for her. and they only started dating when she was already an adult.
He even asked if he could pursue her, despite already knowing that she liked him. He never took advantage of her feelings for him or used them for his own benefit at all.
Do these people even know what “pedo” actually means? 😭 😭😭
So somehow a SML forcing kisses on the FL can be called “hot,” but a character who treats the FL gently gets labeled with something as serious as “pedo”? Where is the logic in that? 😭
A good drama should have an actual story that gives the audience something to discuss not just the chemistry between the leads. There should be characters, motivations, conflicts, and plot developments that we can actually talk about and analyze.
So I’m totally with you on this! 👏
We may disagree with each other sometimes and that’s totally fine but at least the discussions are still based on the plot, the characters and the story itself. It’s really nice and interesting to read!!! 👍
https://x.com/czy1029scorpio/status/2086121490311745914?s=12
Can Fusheng director please get it right this time? CZY has really devoted himself to this drama 😭
I’m still speechless about his screen time in RB. The drama itself is watchable and I’m fine with romance not being the main focus since I’m not really a romance person anyway lol.
But I just want to see more of his scenes... 😭 otherwise I have to wait for Chasing Dreams?
A lot of C-dramas look beautiful on the surface, the costumes, sets, handsome actors, beautiful actresses, and so on but many of the drama lack the depth in storytelling that would actually keep me watching until the end.
The industry produces too many repetitive dramas and relies too heavily on popularity rather than focusing on quality. Meanwhile, genuinely good dramas that don’t have huge fandoms or popular actors can easily get buried because everything is measured by things like heat indexes and popularity rankings.
Compared with K-dramas, I also feel there’s much more variety in terms of genre. Romance isn’t the only genre that can become popular. Thrillers, crime dramas, medical dramas, family dramas, political dramas, and many others can also get strong ratings if they’re genuinely good.
And it’s not only handsome actors or beautiful actresses who can shine either. If an actor gives a strong performance, fits the character well and manages to convince the audience, they can still have a breakout role regardless of how popular they were beforehand or how they look.
With international C-drama audiences, romance drama gets most of the attention which makes the variety feel even more limited.
https://x.com/cdramacharts/status/2086061590357450861?s=12
Novoland: Pearl Eclipse had 48 episodes -> https://kisskh.at/31998-novoland-pearl-eclipse
Chasing Dream isn’t exactly a prequel. It takes Tilan and General Tang’s part of the story from the novel which is only about seven chapters long.
They’ll have to expand the storyline and add a lot more content beyond what’s in the novel. It will also be quite different from the drama Pearl Eclipse.
https://x.com/FloatingLife26/status/2086001763157754367?s=12
Can this gege please consider doing a modern drama for his next role? 😭 I miss seeing him in modern styling already!
https://x.com/floatinglife26/status/2086052782629683709?s=46
I just want to do the makeup on that handsome little face too 😭 I’d even work for free!
https://x.com/fizasyaza/status/2086051608039960765?s=12
I’ve watched some videos of their interactions and they’re just too cute together.
Azan is such a happy dog whenever he’s with his gege and Mama is adorable too 🥹 dressing Azan likes a doll lol.
Something like a camping or travel show with his dog would be so nice to watch.
I actually enjoy those camping-with-a-dog videos on YouTube too.
They’re so relaxing, peaceful and easy to watch, especially when you just want to unwind and relieve some stress.
How the hell would a bad drama affect Esther as the BA when she isn’t even part of the drama?
This drama has absolutely nothing to do with her and she’ll be perfectly fine.
Who would blame a brand ambassador just because another drama on the platform is bad? 😂
The 95-liners may be popular now, but soon there will be the 2000-liners and another new generation after them. Strong acting skills are what will help an actor stay in this industry for the long run.
It’s becoming even more important now because platforms are reportedly trying to reduce the number of long-form dramas they produce and focus more on quality, after flooding the industry with too many low-quality productions.
I also hope the director can still improve a few things, although it may be a little late since filming is almost finished. At least we still have the screenwriter and post-production team, so hopefully their work will be strong enough to restore our faith in the drama.