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Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis Spoiler
ANd so when you have that kind of mother - even a small version of JIS - then you DO wonder if you are like her.…
Today I was eating icecream with my mother and there was just 2 portions in a box. She ate hers, then with that same spoon she used to eat, she went into the box and took more.
I said hey, if you are using the spoon you ate with, now that is your icecream!!!
She said - nooo, I took it just from one corner ...
And I said ... hey, if you used the spoon you ate with, there are no corners, you used YOUR spoon on the icecream that was supposedly for me
,,,,so several times she said it doesnt matter bc she took it just from one corner... finally
She said - well I wasnt thinking...
I said - that's the whole point You are so selfish, you never think of me.
This icecream thing is just a small example. One time I was very ill with high fever, nobody checked on me for days, I had no water, so I went to get water, and fainted and almost broke my skull.
On Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
ANd so when you have that kind of mother - even a small version of JIS - then you DO wonder if you are like her.
Honestly after today, I am wondering what happened to me after being arond that kind of mother.
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
I know why LOL she acts a person who is so lifeless and really dumb stupid I cannot stand her in this drama, everything…
I dont think he would marry her knowingly if she had that kind of past. I think he thinks he needs her bc she cares for him and is one stable part of his life BUT ALSO I think he is toxically glued to her bc there is somethng really sick and dead and mentally unstable about her - like destroying those pots - and that is what REMINDS HIM OF HIS MOM and that's why he feels drawn to "keep saving" her from her own .. . psychopathy. The pots scene was highly psychopatic imo, to do such a drastic thing for nothing.

How she got him to lay down and bed and left him there is .... strange and yet it seems like that is one reason why he likes her. she SEEMS to care for him... in a way he is used to..
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis Spoiler
The interesting thing to me is the intergenerational stuff and ML's inner confusion and conflict about it. See…
I was wondering if Grandpa killed his own wife in fire - why was he standing there, not calling firefighters? Someone said JIS could have killed her mother by mistake...

JIS keeps trying to convince her son to welcome killing someone who is in his way. He is disgusted and also afraid he is like her. His angst (and the fact that there is nothing to watch) made me watchthis.
I think he has a point there. His genetics is heavily on him.

ML's wife is very strange. THe first scene we met her, she was quickly destroying the clay pots, angry bc she couldnt do them right, and I was thinking - this amount of anger and destruction is not called for, this woman is a PSYCHOPATHIC KILLER.
I remembered instantly another kdrama where an aide to elderly kills the enderly bc she asked her to come again, and the route had to many stairs, and she was annoyed, so she killed the elderly. So then ML rushed to "save" this destoying chick and I learned she is his wife. Strange!!! The way he was saving her, is as if he were to save his own mother from killing. I thought WOW HE IS PREDISPOSED TO BEING AROUND WOMEN LIKE HIS MOTHER
Also, I Everything his wife did is strange adn stupid later.

BUT could this rather small chick punch and kick an adult male Min Jin? He is rather frail but still, to punch with fists requres some strenght... ?
And then the killer hung him in a pose that reminds me of those porn whipping scenes

I dont think the Police officer who was dong JIS case from tje start could be it = he was at the opera?
On Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
The interesting thing to me is the intergenerational stuff and ML's inner confusion and conflict about it. See spoiler
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
Where did you see the body shape? A small male can be like that too...
OK got it. I am not sure why you think it is female shape? I saw only the leg and shoe. CAN a woman punch and kick like that?
Replying to Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
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his wife is rather small. COULD she punch and kick like that... ?
The other lady is quite large. COULD she punch and kick like that?
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
I think grandpa killed his own wife in fire back then. THere he was. watching the fire and doing nothing.
5 , fire
Replying to caro Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis Spoiler
can anyone share how much violence is in the show? are the murders graphic? I can't watch anything too violent.…
But we saw the killer punch and kick Min Jae. ... how big and strong and trained would a woman have to be to do that? CAN a woman do that?
Whoever did that was targeting MJ as a playboy and hung him up like those whipping fantasies
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
I think grandpa killed his own wife in fire back then. THere he was. watching the fire and doing nothing.
everything is possible. This is Agatha Cristie LOL
On Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
Ok asking again after rewatching the scene. CAN a woman kick and punch an adult male like we saw in ep 5? Even if trained, can a woman punch with fists like that? how big would she have to be?
Replying to Unknown Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
Plus if I interpreted that scene rightly even jung i shin didn't like him right?And i doubt the wife's best friend…
But... the scene we saw is a villain KICKING and PUNCHING an adult male and knocking him off... JIS never done that, I think.
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
Where did you see the body shape? A small male can be like that too...
Oh my dyslexic brain gets lost in alphabet soup of names that look similar... ... So what episode and time is that? I already forgot - who is Jae Min? I remember seeing someone in a hoodie from CCTV - it that it?
Replying to MilicaB Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
I think grandpa killed his own wife in fire back then. THere he was. watching the fire and doing nothing.
Hm ... you got me thinking.... her style is killing men who abuse women... and she was young so it didnt cross my mind to accuse her... BUT NOW I am thinking so yeah... she might seen her own mother be abused and then ...
Replying to caro Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
can anyone share how much violence is in the show? are the murders graphic? I can't watch anything too violent.…
It is too exbionistic and goes over the top, imo. So there is need for plenty fast forwarding.
I am watching the drama bc of the angst and dilemma of the ML and bc there is nothign else to watch on Th so I watched backlog of these :) LOL
Replying to Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
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When Min was beat, could a woman like her do it? It seems like it required strength. BUT I remember the scene when she destroys pots when she cannot do them right...I thought to myself this woman is a phychopath and yeah she could kill. When she gets annoyed, she destroys. BUT is she strong enough to kick an adult male like that..
Replying to Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
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How big is grandpa? the person in that hoodie video wasnt huge
Replying to shibalsaekkiya Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis Spoiler
my theory is that
I think grandpa killed his own wife in fire back then. THere he was. watching the fire and doing nothing.
Replying to Queen Mantis Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
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Is Grandfather too big for that hoodie video?
Replying to GalacticTheory Sep 19, 2025
Title Queen Mantis
The build of the copycat is younger, it seems like a female wearing baggy clothes. His wife and her best friend…
He is too fat for that video of someone in a hoodie