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That is the grandma I believe they are referring (Flower)

lol - its all in good fun . The comments are more entertaining then the show .

I'm not the target audience for this show - I love angst and toxicity (My stand in, Only friends) but some of the postings by overzealous and rude fans here have satisfied that toxic requirement. And they have annoyed me.

-Some fans cant accept criticism and responded rudely to people who posted contrary opinions.
-I also read that certain TNP fan clubs were told to downvote another show (the voting here and the reviews feels rigged). To me that is unfair.
-Also its annoying when obsessed fans cant see that this is "the emperor is not wearing any clothes" type of show. They are blinded by big budget, costumes, set designs

I m usually not so critical as I dont expect much from Thai bls (although there are some good ones especially recent ) - only that they engage. But they spent so much money on this - so its annoying

I didnt mind the ending. I like endings that are not definitive, that are sad, that are ambiguous, etc. I can appreciate them because thats how life is.

But it was a crime not to explore his psyche further in the last few episodes. Instead the second male lead actor become the lead actor and it felt like the story had suddenly changed. That is why I cant give it a 10. (Dont get me wrong, I adore the second lead actor -but thats not the point). This is one of my top 5 korean drama.

I wish there were more shows that feature and explore antiheroes that are dark, twisted, amoral, morally complex, toxic etc.

I gave it a 9.5 because I felt the last few episodes did not fit well.
I also read up that they minimised Yoo Jung role.

I loved it and it kept me engaged unlike most other kdramas

I have watched a lot of Kdramas that bored me. In fact, struggle to finish a lot of them.
But this drama had me engaged. It was different.

I was fascinated by the Yoo Jung as a character - i felt he could have been darker, and that would have made it more interesting. I enjoy observing more complex characters.

Baek In Ho was such a cutie here. Major second lead syndrome.

If anyone can recommend similar types of shows - then thank you in advance.

I respect your opinion. Iol I will gladly accept any criticism about the show - except the toxic argument one. (that one annoys me)

I enjoyed the experience of watching the show.
Its a Thai bl so I dont raise the bar too high. (sometimes i dont even raise it). Most times I look past all the technical stuff like editing, camerawork, acting. I focus on how I feel watching the series, how it engages, and I get distracted by the pretty faces. I was distracted enough not to notice all its shortcomings.

I never not notice the music that accompanies the nc scenes. (WHY???) But its there with 99% of Thai bls.

I have also said that in a comment further below. And agree about the side characters.
The review section is interesting.

Its just very suspicious when there are 11 pages of reviews already. It seems that the majority of the reviews were made between 4th-10th of May after having viewed 1 episode. Out of these reviews - about 95% give this a 10 for everything. (Story, acting, music, rewatch value).

It does not look like a normal distribution. It feels like too many fans have manipulated the voting at least in the review section.

Thank you. I also hate annoying girls.
It does not do a service to women to have females that are badly written or to be there only to irritate and take up space. I see so many misogynistic comments on bl shows when its not even an annoying girl/s - why write them in.

I also dont like GL pairing in every Thai BL show. Its not why Im watching bl.

Its sad that its assumed that older people (by a few years) and/or people in power are ALL predators.

It does not reflect well on society or people that are making broad assumptions. Not everyone is a groomer or will sexually exploit the young.

Its wrong to accuse someone of being a predator because you think they can potentially be one. Its like assuming a man in the park with a child is automatically a paedophile and not the childs father.

Seriously I dont see the big deal.
They are actors and professional. And if you know and trust someone it would make the acting easier.
If there were nc scenes I would not think that much of it if its 21 and 27 yrs old. Again its acting.

Not all older people and /or people in power are predators.

This was so funny. I enjoyed it and laughed a lot.
I wanted something not serious and this was perfect.
Ignore the reviews.

I cant think of a better reason to watch this. I was going to watch for Lee Long Shi, but the rest of actors deserve attention as well.

thanks.

I was made aware that the the novel was about the intrigue and politics but I wonder if the NNZee bl audience would have wanted that to be the focus as opposed to the romantic fairy tale. (If its about intrigue, an actor like Gun Atthaphan would have played the role well. Imagine how different the series would have been.)

Because its a NNZ vehicle (the focus being Romance and style over substance), I think they were trying to do too much (intrigue, political upheaval, injustice, the competition, succession etc). Instead they should have focused on one issue, the other two couples, and the NNZ romance.

Also I wonder who made the decision to cut out Ramil/Paytai and Calvin/Jay stories. Were egos involved? Or did they just not have time because they were all over the place focusing every where and missing every mark.

I know Im being harsh but I do want non GMM shows to be successful. And it annoys me when so much is spent on an uninteresting (unless your NNZ fan) vanity project.

PS nothing wrong with romance and style if done well.

Thanks
So 1 Q is 1 Day of shooting. Why dont they just say day.

I didnt know it took about 25 to 40 days to shoot a series. It does not sound that long - I would have thought much longer.

Neither am i an omegaverse fan, but that is not reason to be immature and spiteful and wish to deprive others who have done nothing to you.

What a cretin. Lets break other peoples toys because someone broke ours.

oh sh*t. This is not good.

thanks

This is also being shown on Viki - is it taking a break there as well?

Im surprised that this show has such a high rating of 8.2 when its so bland.
The show deserves points for expensive sets, no cringy music during nc scene, the costumes (even if i dont appreciate them ), and better than average bl camera work. But the scriptwriting, and engaging story are missing. And that is what should count.

If Ramil/Paytai and NetJJ were given more time, it could have kept the interest as their plots were more exciting . Or alternatively they could have been written in a manner to balance what was going on in in the main plot and give variety. NNZee are not enough to carry this show.

They put a lot of effort and money into this show, but Domundi made it all about their two favourite lead actors, and fancy costumes/sets. Ultimately, it feels like they produced a vanity project for the two leads, rather than creating a show interested in presenting a compelling story and script.

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If i was an executive there i would be busy re-editing this series to give those couples more time - to salvage some of the show.