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The biggest mistake of the second season was to be out 3 years after the first. It is tainted with the nostalgia it has left in people’s memories. We always prefer everything comes 1st because it brings the beauty of novelty. Stranger 1 introduced a new kind of Thriller, so many, even I expected to relive the same story with season 2.
But after watched it I realized, Stranger 2 isn’t really a season 2, it’s more a Spin off of the first season. Some characters are still there but the story is quite different.
The critics who came back had nothing to do with the quality of the script but rather the codes that defined season 1, Precisely the SM-YJ duo, an investigation conducted throughout the season, the emphasis on secondary characters to the detriment of the main characters. I fully understand these reproaches, one of the goals of a tv show is to follow its established codes and eventually improve its content.
But all these shortcomings in no way detract from the script quality of this season 2. Contrary to the first one, it's much closer to reality, and it MAYBE this that takes away the Blockbuster side of the previous season. Here it's the real life of the job where the hero is not necessarily someone who shines, but rather lives under the codes of a humiliating hierarchy. This season begins as calmly as possible with a good metaphorical scene of Fog, I really love it, You perfectly understand the link between this scene and the original title of the drama, it's a rather original way of saying to the audience, Welcome back to the Forest of Secrets.
Here we talk a lot, a lot, because as in real life everything is a political issue and every word has its importance, it is a power War between two giants.
So It is understandable that such long and difficult to understand conversations are necessary, as well as the introduction of all these new characters.
If you like me, are interested in political and mind games then you will have fun... This season starts very slowly, but don’t let yourself be discouraged, the more you go to the fog of the story, the more fascinating it will be. FOR MY PART, IF THIS SEASON DIDN'T HAVE THAT FANCY SIDE OF SEASON 1, IT STIL SHINES IT OWN WAY, CAUSE IT HAVE A MUCH BETTER, SMARTER, MORE ELABORATE AND REALISTIC SCENARIO.

Like Dark yeah :D

Dark is one of those shows that proves the SF doesn’t necessarily have to be a big-budget thing where the scenario is shielded by futuristic tricks like in blockbusters. Sometimes You just only need a good scenario and a few actors to create something beautiful. What I liked most about this series are the philosophical and human questions posed around the question of time travel. Many of them echo our own lives.

It's a strange way of thinking, being from a good family and being intelligent exempts you from the moment of madness that every human being has experienced at least once in his life?
On the contrary, I think that's a very well thought-out reason. As in real life this student's story is similar to the snowball effect, it is the accumulation of many bad things that pushed him to the extreme. You gotta consider the psychology of this kid. He was harassed for over 15 years.
It reminds me exactly the same story as in the first season, the culprit was also an all-around good guy who also had a painful history.
I think the message the writer wants to give us is that not all killers are heartless monsters or serial killers as we like to believe, many unfortunately have a similar story as ours, and that rage or pain pushes them to make the wrong decisions.

I will ask the question more simply, what is the formula in this case that applies to this drama? At the beginning I had just gone on the mechanism explained by OW, because it explained rather well the situations experienced by Alice's travellers. But the trip with JG and TY brings this process into question.

I have no problem with the question of time travel I understand it correctly, being a lover of reading it is a recurring subject in the SF world. What's disturbing ? are the basics used in this drama. What are they? Each work has its own way of describing the mechanism used for time travel. Which is not the case here. We are always giving each one of us a theory on this issue because some events contradict others. Some believe that it is strictly about time travel, while others believe that it is more about parallel worlds, where others say that they are separate time lines. WHO'S RIGHT THEN?
Again, to take up examples that have been cited several times, TRAIN and TKEM more or less handled this type of subject, and because the codes had already been defined from the beginning, we knew exactly what it was about.

That's exactly it, things seem to contradict each other with every new episode. But that's the problem for me, I can't be interested in anything else for more than a minute because I'm still redoing my math (parallel universe or time travel? Both or time loop?).
So I don't have any real attachment to the characters, I stay because I want the answers to my questions and maybe it's only towards the end that I'll get them.

So I did very well by stopping at the 10th episode then. ^_^

They’re still friends, but they’re distant from each other. I’ll be honest with you, they don’t share the screen for more than half the drama. But it shouldn’t scare you because you’ll understand why.
Besides, completely forget the first season when begin this one, otherwise you risk having the same concern that many here have with this season, it is a completely different story, we tend more in the political thriller a bit like Life. But if you’re like me, you’ll always have so much fun, especially during the last few episodes, where the quality of the script reaches his peaks.

Unlike you I love politics and power games, I love when a drama takes time in its dialogues to better explain the political maneuvers used, like in Life, Stranger 1 & 2, Kingdom or House of Cards.
For 3 years this drama has been highly recommended to me, as being The Chinese political-historical Drama par excellence, and yet like you for 3 years I struggle to watch it till the end. To this day I still haven't gotten past the 10th episode. This week trying again, I finally realized it wasn't for me. On the other hand, I can't really point out what got me the most bored in this drama, the fight scenes? narration? the massive introduction of characters to get lost in it? One thing's for sure, I hate the fight scenes in Chinese historical dramas, I find them too fake (People flying and catching swords with their bare hands? That's a big no no for me).

This is exactly my problem from the beginning, I keep saying that the fact that the functioning of the time travel has still not been properly explained makes the scenario poor and imprecise. Some told me that this was the beauty of the drama, that it added mystery to the scenario. For my part it’s the opposite, it adds too much confusion, proof: each one goes to his theory because in the bottom no one knows how it works. As proof of TY’s and JG’s travels, how did they get back to their date, world, universe precisely? I’m not looking for a clever script like Stranger, but something that doesn’t make you see every two minutes that there are flaws in the script.

The Devil is in the Details
I bet the writer made SM say that phrase on purpose, to remind us of the importance of every detail in the drama. We use this formula as a reminder that every detail counts, that the smallest things matter, that nothing should be overlooked. Because sometimes it only takes the smallest mismanaged detail in a large project to risk causing it to fail completely. It's her way of challenging us to find plot holes in her story. BRAVO!!!! ??????

it's because of Choseok.

No episodes next week

Some people told me that it was bad editing but after watch it again I realize it was truly what I saw yesterday. So how can make a mistake like that?

That was exactly my concern yesterday; how can an object that is in 2021 be able to emit a real-time signal in 2020?

But how could she cry for him as a mother? She has no idea what's going on, she's just mourning her friend.

The trouble with this drama are foundations. These have been very poorly established. Discussing with many here, I was saying that the fact that until now the principle of time travel has not been properly explained continues to create inconsistency in the script. Therefore, in view of the events shown so far, many spectators assumed, as I did, that the principle of time travel was similar to other dramas such as Train or TKEM. In both cases from the very beginning, we understood perfectly how it works. Who was who, and what was their purpose. Train was the best exemple for me. It was simple but concise. Even during the last episode, we understood that we were in another world without having to give us ten thousand explanations. Because the beginning had already done its job well.
So when I saw the SBS video saying that YTH and PSH are two different people sharing the same face it made me laugh, because again they didn't explain anything except to make a recap of the scenes of each one.
That's where they sin: the lack of explanation. Another inconsistent example: the time travel made by YTH and PJG. Why are they found on these exact dates and how does it work? In both cases I saw that they each had a near-death experience, is that the trigger? Or the power of friendship, love and so on? And what about Alice? It would be a shame if they will not properly explain it til the end.

I laugh so loud reading this, I'm dead.... That's a good one... Funny thing I'm actually watching the 1st season of Heroes again... The plot is still awesome...

I will never say it enough “All tastes are in nature”; because apparently I am part of a minority that finds no appeal to this drama. And since I never judge a drama to its actors but rather to its creators and I always try to follow at least 4 episodes to make me a real opinion, I decided to throw it into this one because I wanted to see if the scriptwriter’s work had improved since Temperature Of Love, which did not score me in the right direction. Well after 4 episodes, I realize once again that it is not this work that will impress me. The scenario is extremely Déjà vu, that we already know where it will lead us. I'm bored as F$#*. Except FOW, Stranger and Missing, I found the script quality of ongoing dramas extremely poor.