people were also dying when Palestinian terrorists attacked a MUSIC FESTIVAL. They killed 360 people there
are you worried because you party at music festivals down the street from concentration camps or sth? looks like isntreal is a shithole country. where are the police????????????????????
If you don't mind the last few episodes ruining everything, watch it. Personally, the ending completely ruined…
explain oh wait u mean yys. yea. pls dont remind me (jk do remind ppl bc ppl need to know. not to hate him, no one has to, but still to know and be wary. do not trust celebs!)
Did you forgot october the 7th? Did you forget the Nova festival where women were raped, killed, entire families…
i'm bored. i'll bite fatum because you cast me as delusional and told me to see a therapist. well, i already talked to my therapist this week so i'm fiending for another session. until then lemme go crazy!
the palestinian resistance, which is an axis, you goddamn racist ghouls, not just one group (hamas) were not killing every "jew whom they could reach".
first, they were breaking out of the cage that isntreal forced them into, making sure people knew they would not be forgotten on the world stage, and resisting against their oppressors' (white/supremacy) who have, since time immemorial wanted to rape, murder, and pillage every single continent with the darker and different peoples of the world who have cultivated their land, tended to it, and utilized the resources these european freaks (colonialists, slave masters from; from columbus to washington to leopold to hitler to pinochet to churchill to obama to on and on) wanted to make themselves distinct from the murderous beasts they became.
now to your trap with your claim they were "killing every jew whom they could reach". it is a requirement that the settlers who are massacring palestine be jewish. this is not the fault of the palestinians nor the rest of us when we speak in our support of them. you are slimming a distinction to make it seem as if, due to their jewishness, it is bad to resist against the people trying to steal your land and exterminate you. that's not their problem or my problem. if they were muslim, like what is going on in sudan, it would still be an instance of settler colonialism, forced displacement, and land theft. in the 19th century european murderers were perusing fucking namibia, goddamn africa, it has nothing to do with religion or the sanctity of the spot. they do not get to make a white and judaic supremacist society on the stolen land and lives of palestinians and not have people rebel because they happen to be doing what was done to them. doesn't work like that. sorry. palestinians and the land of palestine don't pay for the crimes of europe nor do they need to be careful when clawing their way out of the hell its wrought.
on top of that why were the settlers partying a literal mile next to a concentration camp? i could go on like how no rape cases have been filed, the ny times hoax, the fact that isntreal murdered a large chunk of the casualties on 10/7 bc they were COMBATANTS but the truth is that you know that already. you are a nazi, your ideology necessitates the extermination of palestinians and, here is where i get selfish, it needs the extermination of black people as well which the globe is trying.
so i won't stand for it you racist, zionist, anti palestinian, anti black, pro rape, pro genocide, pro ecocide pedantic fucking freaks. you are the crazy one, YOU need rehabilitation and re education. not me. your and others' similar comments should be seen as hate speech and inciting violence. how dare you. and bar none the most oppressed class in the world, children, are being exterminated (or the isntrealis abused by parents bc theyre raising them in a nasty sick abusive pro rape society) and you are okay with that. you're racist and you hate kids. you hate a better world. THIS is insanity.
And we have again a pro-hamas comment on this thread! Get a life for god sake! I am so fed up to see those pro…
16 likes as palestinians are being poisoned in THEIR country via fucking chicken, sickness is spreading everywhere, and LA is on fire thanks to those fucking colonial freaks and their western rapist overlords and YOU want to get mad at all of us for daring to hate an ideology and society that facilitates the extermination of a people and quells liberation for people like me and even, or especially, in this instance, fucking koreans.
btw showrunners and writers and even actors absolutely monitor these forums. you are all foolish if you dont believe…
oh how could i forget! please donate to crips for esims. gaza workshops does repeated workshops (i think) on how you can help obtain these yourself as well. next to doing irl action (encouraged); managing a gofundme, donating what you can when you can routinely, as well as consistently sharing gofundmes, esims may be THE most concrete material way you can help.
the long comment above is on the show bc people keep talking about how politics aren't "in the show" (wrong) and the comment following this one gives examples of culture's direct ties to politics (though the examples are american) since someone called me crazy over it (while being anti blak and anti african! YAY!) as well as links to mutual aid efforts for palestine and general global south since so many commenters said people weren't helping. i genuinely do not think a lot of you want to think critically.
It depends who you want clarification from MBC or Netflix MBC will only care to give explanation when Koreans…
oh i know haha i mentioned them. there are many principled ones but i'm doing that the way people to do americans though...(i hate it when many people do that bc they tend to mean black people lol. oh the internet). but yes! + any korean is better than any [yt] american bc they are not on the same playing field. we could all be doing so much more so i'm proud of those kids and people. and i'm also proud of those in the industry who are brave enough to take a hit for this, are taking on the industry, or are divesting and going against it. (i mean there are barely any of those but i'm sure somewhere they exist)
i'm just frustrated because it's not like it makes sense for "them" to continue this way you know. it's killing them. what little people they have to rage against on a cultural level can be converted into defanging ie parasite but even then we aren't getting much work like that...from anyone anywhere!
edited to ad that i was also frustrated because king the land was not really a big deal in comparison so of course they issued an apology especially if specifically saudis were upset bc it's the saudis so. so this signals to me they do not care and they are being silent on purpose. geopolitical maneuver. if you are an artist and your work gets intentionally mistranslated and you do not speak up about it that means you lack integrity. especially if you were brave enough to completely subvert the lie peddled to excuse one of the biggest crimes in modern history. i would be beyond offended for my work and words to be marred like that at this specific time. at best this is goddamn cowardly. however i look at it, it's purposeful, unacceptable, and damaging. they made their bed.
you can't try and project a mental illness on me (which wouldn't bar me from contributing) because you are uneducated and want me to shut up. you can still enjoy your show. i am an accomplished (bragging because you have now brought up my credibility and i have it babes) broke as fuck filmmaker who loves art and the world PERIOD and i get to analyze what i want, how i want, and in that framework and attempt to connect with other likeminded people. unlike you i have a modicum of influence where i can try and support others. so either donate to some mutual aid requests (linked below), block me, or move on. do not try and discredit me by using hallucinations because that is a ridiculous charge that automatically shuts down any counterpoint or people like me who DARE to go into this more critically.
btw meta, as in mark zuckerberg, is saying that people can call queer people insane, delusional, and hurl medical diagnoses at us on his platforms now. seems to me like you may be headed into that exact behavior if you don't remain vigilant. i mean you already did but i'll allow you this because you didn't know i'm queer. but if you try this shit again i will report this comment.
"why fl forgave her mother "? Because she is her mother. Parents ,children and siblings. always forgive one another…
i'm not talking about hee joo. why would i criticize her when, apart from the massive loss of respect i have for everyone (with power) involved in this show, she is one of my favorite female characters i have seen in a long time in kdramas and i find her to be incredibly strong. it was my response to your words. what she did in that scene was proper and the correct way to handle severing from your abusive parent/s but she shouldn't have left an avenue open ("take it slowly" gross) which is what the user was responding to imo.
"now it's all love" is me responding to your assesment (in a diff english dialect) on parent and child forgiveness but that isn't what she was doing anyway. so what you said is not right then. i don't mean in a 'i have to be correct way' but in a this is a dangerous(?) interpretation way. no, parents, children, and siblings do not always, nor should they always, forgive each other and hee joo's actions are a way for the show to attempt to make that clear. but she needed to dead that rship permanently.
It depends who you want clarification from MBC or Netflix MBC will only care to give explanation when Koreans…
the allowance of streaming and k-dramas was a mistake. i cannot believe at one time i didn't care because it was going to happen anyway and people are addicted to empire. but it has degraded the quality of thought, the ability of an audience to deal with discomfort over the reception of a work particularly on the internet bc fandom, people's media literacy, and has continued to—like all media/art/whatever we are calling shit these days—asked people to replace reality with a racial capitalist, imperial colonial, cishetpatriarchal stained (this one is more complicated), white supremacist construction that has confused people to their detriment.
what looks like a failure of reckoning or neoliberal/liberal propaganda to me looks like some skewed liberation or support to others (like with kpop) but the problem is i put in work to know enough on how to distinguish, WHY it is happening, and what i think about that. there are very few avenues for people to access critique that is truly anti-colonial and pro liberation online and even in academia with regards to (non yt but even then) culture and that has been an ACTIVE CHOICE. that has been deliberate. i had to LEARN this. it isn't encouraged for people to do this when all they think is that if they vote things will be okay. and it's sadder because south korea stepped up IMMEDIATELY with the attempted coup or even beating johnny somali's ass but then nothing but some principled koreans who understand what they are dealing with did for their contribution and capitulation to the US, this show, and palestine.
ugh art is struggling yall. i need to rewatch labor inspector jo
a weeek later from everyone’s bullshit, after downplaying tragedy, and now seeing LA burning i hope people realize…
btw showrunners and writers and even actors absolutely monitor these forums. you are all foolish if you dont believe so. congrats on jimmy carter dying u dumb bitches @ south korea too bad u dont give a shit about anyone else i suppose
look i liked this drama, and i love sensuality and sexuality which i think these two brought and is sorely lacking in ALL media but particularly with asian media (and yes including queer asian stuff). i liked what they did with the fl and the subversion and i could talk about that all day long—hee joo is incredible to me. i could even put a radical spin on what the creators were doing and what people think that ‘mistranslation’ meant.
but at the end of the day, orienting myself as an artist who is antagonistic to a concrete display of, at the very least, cowardice in cowering to our capital overlords and empire AND empire itself, and as a critical thinker, i am tired. i am sad people put their comfort over the real lives of people and i’m angry at my own inertia. artists pride themselves on being progressive, we are supposed to be thinkers, opening our and ppls worlds, and sacrifice ourselves for upheaval. we arent doing that. and south korea has to contend with their contribution to what this looks like and allowing their culture to be folded into the people who wanted it destroyed.
this isnt as bad as snowdrop at all imo but it decimated their credibility as it should. and it seems like many that cared about snowdrop should speak up here since that is a continuum. but sure.
anyway. i refuse refuse refuse to live like this. you should too. so since everyone is like “ur not helping the cause” (that they barely know anything about anyway) ok LET me help. Hopefully you do not report this post or mods delete it. i am sharing information and words that so many people seem to want and say they are not hostile to. Here is things u can do which to you all should mean you can understand why people are spamming and downgrading and be able to ignore it right? because a user has been and is earnestly engaging with you all here.
here's what you can do:
if you can please donate to a gfm a friend is managing (link below) and SHARE it with people. if you can, donate to other mutual aid efforts and especially black families in LA, afro palestinian families, afro workers in lebanon, and sudanese gfms as those are often looked over even more. search for these on twitter; i dont know all their twitter names directly but this should orient you towards them: munigaza, gazafunds, sudanfunds, khartoum food kitchen, the user mothtongue_ posts many GFMs and not only for palestinians. ANY BIT HELPS PLS DO UR BEST TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT SHARING IS NECESSARY. PLEASE.
check out gaza workshops (link below); you donate and can go to radical workshops. i am going to a few upcoming ones and looking forward to ones on artistry. hopefully there will be one in the future on filmmaking.
To artists especially: get involved. we ONLY ONLY ONLY have each other. dont fall behind guys and buckle up. trust your ability to engage with and dissect media and art, be critical of it, love it, and do not lie about it to yourself. nothing—not a single goddamn thing—is apolitical and LEAST OF ALL art. and remember you are supposed to be ones who can think critically, if you fashion yourself as progressive or whatever the fuck, you are not supposed to be like everyone else. no one is telling you that you cannnot enjoy a show or art. tighten up and get over the idea of personal comfort. it isn't a big deal. we are alive and god willing your geography if ur in america has kept you moderately safer.
If you want to learn more or get connected with others i can give u some advice in how to facilitate the process. i posted this on tumblr as well so if you see these exact words it was me. but you dont know me ;)
It depends who you want clarification from MBC or Netflix MBC will only care to give explanation when Koreans…
From MBC, idc about Netflix.
Fuck MBC and fuck south korea. They don't give a fuck about Palestinians, the colonized, black people, or their own people (the colonized). Cool. And yet here many of me and my comrades are, extra happy for them that Jimmy Carter died. UNDESERVED.
I watched the first episode again and the first negotiation sequence is also shown for the hostages with some…
i didnt miss that but it didnt end with zionist normalization but i was legit about to quit the show bc i was afraid as hell of what they were gonna do with it. so people DID point it out. you guys dont pay attention.
it wasnt a problem because people dont GET it or why it would be. they cant see that sae on’s job would automatically make him in service for empire and subsequently zionism, bc we arent taught to look out for that and think even more critically about how and whys. that is why it is so easy for ppl to pare this down to a mistranslation.
so they need to understand why the last episode wss a problem. if this was something the trsm wanted to solve—the dragging, the trolling, the downvoting on platforms, the anger and ire they are receiving—they would have said something and i find it hard to believe that if the cast/crew implied that the arc was supposed to be anti zionist then the team would be FURIOUS at netflix and antagonizing them for intentionally manipulating a work. this is not up to the audience to have to try and figure out. once agai n we are being forced into adapting to the depravity of what the world says is normal and dissecting a work becomes only about signifiers. Tired.
"why fl forgave her mother "? Because she is her mother. Parents ,children and siblings. always forgive one another…
ur mom tells u to go mute for 30 years and pimps u out and now it’s all love? Nah. Guillotine. We absolutely do nt forgive eo. Young millennial and genz are cutting abusive parents off at high rates and that grows in every generation. Thank god
i lowkey feel like the only one super pumped about this (and wanting to be optimistic). ive seen people not want…
well i dont have a problem with it cos im bisexual and life happens so whatever, thats a personal problem people have and i guess gen z can be kinda dogmatic but we exist sorry lmao. aside from that maybe it’s better to have a quiet fandom. i really enjoyed that trailer, it was well edited and mature, natural, and you get a sense of the characters and what is happening. i hope it turns out good, there arent many series i like these days (my fault partially) 😭
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you dont give a fuck abt jewish people or judaism. YOU ARE A NAZI.
the palestinian resistance, which is an axis, you goddamn racist ghouls, not just one group (hamas) were not killing every "jew whom they could reach".
first, they were breaking out of the cage that isntreal forced them into, making sure people knew they would not be forgotten on the world stage, and resisting against their oppressors' (white/supremacy) who have, since time immemorial wanted to rape, murder, and pillage every single continent with the darker and different peoples of the world who have cultivated their land, tended to it, and utilized the resources these european freaks (colonialists, slave masters from; from columbus to washington to leopold to hitler to pinochet to churchill to obama to on and on) wanted to make themselves distinct from the murderous beasts they became.
now to your trap with your claim they were "killing every jew whom they could reach". it is a requirement that the settlers who are massacring palestine be jewish. this is not the fault of the palestinians nor the rest of us when we speak in our support of them. you are slimming a distinction to make it seem as if, due to their jewishness, it is bad to resist against the people trying to steal your land and exterminate you. that's not their problem or my problem. if they were muslim, like what is going on in sudan, it would still be an instance of settler colonialism, forced displacement, and land theft. in the 19th century european murderers were perusing fucking namibia, goddamn africa, it has nothing to do with religion or the sanctity of the spot. they do not get to make a white and judaic supremacist society on the stolen land and lives of palestinians and not have people rebel because they happen to be doing what was done to them. doesn't work like that. sorry. palestinians and the land of palestine don't pay for the crimes of europe nor do they need to be careful when clawing their way out of the hell its wrought.
on top of that why were the settlers partying a literal mile next to a concentration camp? i could go on like how no rape cases have been filed, the ny times hoax, the fact that isntreal murdered a large chunk of the casualties on 10/7 bc they were COMBATANTS but the truth is that you know that already. you are a nazi, your ideology necessitates the extermination of palestinians and, here is where i get selfish, it needs the extermination of black people as well which the globe is trying.
so i won't stand for it you racist, zionist, anti palestinian, anti black, pro rape, pro genocide, pro ecocide pedantic fucking freaks. you are the crazy one, YOU need rehabilitation and re education. not me. your and others' similar comments should be seen as hate speech and inciting violence. how dare you. and bar none the most oppressed class in the world, children, are being exterminated (or the isntrealis abused by parents bc theyre raising them in a nasty sick abusive pro rape society) and you are okay with that. you're racist and you hate kids. you hate a better world. THIS is insanity.
yep this tv show has done its job. fucking loser.
https://chuffed.org/project/crips-for-esims-for-gaza
the long comment above is on the show bc people keep talking about how politics aren't "in the show" (wrong) and the comment following this one gives examples of culture's direct ties to politics (though the examples are american) since someone called me crazy over it (while being anti blak and anti african! YAY!) as well as links to mutual aid efforts for palestine and general global south since so many commenters said people weren't helping. i genuinely do not think a lot of you want to think critically.
i'm just frustrated because it's not like it makes sense for "them" to continue this way you know. it's killing them. what little people they have to rage against on a cultural level can be converted into defanging ie parasite but even then we aren't getting much work like that...from anyone anywhere!
edited to ad that i was also frustrated because king the land was not really a big deal in comparison so of course they issued an apology especially if specifically saudis were upset bc it's the saudis so. so this signals to me they do not care and they are being silent on purpose. geopolitical maneuver. if you are an artist and your work gets intentionally mistranslated and you do not speak up about it that means you lack integrity. especially if you were brave enough to completely subvert the lie peddled to excuse one of the biggest crimes in modern history. i would be beyond offended for my work and words to be marred like that at this specific time. at best this is goddamn cowardly. however i look at it, it's purposeful, unacceptable, and damaging. they made their bed.
btw meta, as in mark zuckerberg, is saying that people can call queer people insane, delusional, and hurl medical diagnoses at us on his platforms now. seems to me like you may be headed into that exact behavior if you don't remain vigilant. i mean you already did but i'll allow you this because you didn't know i'm queer. but if you try this shit again i will report this comment.
https://kisskh.at/766179-the-number-you-have-dialed#comment-20208684
i hate cops but i know exactly what you're fucking doing. it won't work.
"now it's all love" is me responding to your assesment (in a diff english dialect) on parent and child forgiveness but that isn't what she was doing anyway. so what you said is not right then. i don't mean in a 'i have to be correct way' but in a this is a dangerous(?) interpretation way. no, parents, children, and siblings do not always, nor should they always, forgive each other and hee joo's actions are a way for the show to attempt to make that clear. but she needed to dead that rship permanently.
what looks like a failure of reckoning or neoliberal/liberal propaganda to me looks like some skewed liberation or support to others (like with kpop) but the problem is i put in work to know enough on how to distinguish, WHY it is happening, and what i think about that. there are very few avenues for people to access critique that is truly anti-colonial and pro liberation online and even in academia with regards to (non yt but even then) culture and that has been an ACTIVE CHOICE. that has been deliberate. i had to LEARN this. it isn't encouraged for people to do this when all they think is that if they vote things will be okay. and it's sadder because south korea stepped up IMMEDIATELY with the attempted coup or even beating johnny somali's ass but then nothing but some principled koreans who understand what they are dealing with did for their contribution and capitulation to the US, this show, and palestine.
ugh art is struggling yall. i need to rewatch labor inspector jo
look i liked this drama, and i love sensuality and sexuality which i think these two brought and is sorely lacking in ALL media but particularly with asian media (and yes including queer asian stuff). i liked what they did with the fl and the subversion and i could talk about that all day long—hee joo is incredible to me. i could even put a radical spin on what the creators were doing and what people think that ‘mistranslation’ meant.
but at the end of the day, orienting myself as an artist who is antagonistic to a concrete display of, at the very least, cowardice in cowering to our capital overlords and empire AND empire itself, and as a critical thinker, i am tired. i am sad people put their comfort over the real lives of people and i’m angry at my own inertia. artists pride themselves on being progressive, we are supposed to be thinkers, opening our and ppls worlds, and sacrifice ourselves for upheaval. we arent doing that. and south korea has to contend with their contribution to what this looks like and allowing their culture to be folded into the people who wanted it destroyed.
this isnt as bad as snowdrop at all imo but it decimated their credibility as it should. and it seems like many that cared about snowdrop should speak up here since that is a continuum. but sure.
anyway. i refuse refuse refuse to live like this. you should too. so since everyone is like “ur not helping the cause” (that they barely know anything about anyway) ok LET me help. Hopefully you do not report this post or mods delete it. i am sharing information and words that so many people seem to want and say they are not hostile to. Here is things u can do which to you all should mean you can understand why people are spamming and downgrading and be able to ignore it right? because a user has been and is earnestly engaging with you all here.
here's what you can do:
if you can please donate to a gfm a friend is managing (link below) and SHARE it with people. if you can, donate to other mutual aid efforts and especially black families in LA, afro palestinian families, afro workers in lebanon, and sudanese gfms as those are often looked over even more. search for these on twitter; i dont know all their twitter names directly but this should orient you towards them: munigaza, gazafunds, sudanfunds, khartoum food kitchen, the user mothtongue_ posts many GFMs and not only for palestinians. ANY BIT HELPS PLS DO UR BEST TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT SHARING IS NECESSARY. PLEASE.
check out gaza workshops (link below); you donate and can go to radical workshops. i am going to a few upcoming ones and looking forward to ones on artistry. hopefully there will be one in the future on filmmaking.
To artists especially: get involved. we ONLY ONLY ONLY have each other. dont fall behind guys and buckle up. trust your ability to engage with and dissect media and art, be critical of it, love it, and do not lie about it to yourself. nothing—not a single goddamn thing—is apolitical and LEAST OF ALL art. and remember you are supposed to be ones who can think critically, if you fashion yourself as progressive or whatever the fuck, you are not supposed to be like everyone else. no one is telling you that you cannnot enjoy a show or art. tighten up and get over the idea of personal comfort. it isn't a big deal. we are alive and god willing your geography if ur in america has kept you moderately safer.
Links:
https://www.workshops4gaza.com/
gofundme https://www.gofundme.com/f/donate-to-basmas-hope-for-a-brighter-future
also a comment re argan on why ppl werent upset in the first episode. https://kisskh.at/766179-the-number-you-have-dialed#comment-20207016
If you want to learn more or get connected with others i can give u some advice in how to facilitate the process. i posted this on tumblr as well so if you see these exact words it was me. but you dont know me ;)
Fuck MBC and fuck south korea. They don't give a fuck about Palestinians, the colonized, black people, or their own people (the colonized). Cool. And yet here many of me and my comrades are, extra happy for them that Jimmy Carter died. UNDESERVED.
it wasnt a problem because people dont GET it or why it would be. they cant see that sae on’s job would automatically make him in service for empire and subsequently zionism, bc we arent taught to look out for that and think even more critically about how and whys. that is why it is so easy for ppl to pare this down to a mistranslation.
so they need to understand why the last episode wss a problem. if this was something the trsm wanted to solve—the dragging, the trolling, the downvoting on platforms, the anger and ire they are receiving—they would have said something and i find it hard to believe that if the cast/crew implied that the arc was supposed to be anti zionist then the team would be FURIOUS at netflix and antagonizing them for intentionally manipulating a work. this is not up to the audience to have to try and figure out. once agai n we are being forced into adapting to the depravity of what the world says is normal and dissecting a work becomes only about signifiers. Tired.
and a new crew is great!