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so many ppl from DP here!

i can't wait for the day that WYW calls soo yeon her friend. it'll take time but i know soo yeon is waiting for that. i love how people can't resist WYW and those who know, who want to know, /know/ or get to know her.

agree about her pops. i think this one is a little complicated because if she weren't autistic, then this could be the same type of situation with a type like the girl from ep 2. but because she is, it IS different. a person who had all her specs but no autism wouldn't consistently be looked over for that and they could probably get someone from SNU to help and be referred. WYW couldn't...but i can also see that maybe (and this isn't' something a parent should say out loud) if she just got so demoralized that she could come to him and see what he could do. if it were anyone else what would the discouragement lead them to? maybe asking their parent for help and perhaps their parent could give them help? it's totally understandable why she's' upset but of course it's hard for her to come to terms with that because it's so fucking sad and unfair!

i am fascinated abt mom too but since she has one kid the whole 'doesn't want kids thing' doesn't fly and that's where i start to lose empathy. unless she forgot the act of being pregnant or has amnesia then this is simply giving up your child (which you are allowed to do and SHOULD be allowed to do) but it depends on why like was it because she refused to speak for the first 5y of life? signs something could be "wrong"? if it is bc of her family the whole adage from ep 2 still stands....

the show isn't a misogynist nightmare with patriarchal mores everywhere so i'm not worried about that. i love that they have a single unmarried father too . maybe in the end everything can truly be good and she can meet her half-brother! but also >_> also min woo is so fucking hypocritical it is insane

sry long comment i'm getting more obsesed with this show

like....see no other option!

this show and its people are a gift! a gift! (i just started ep 8!)

in ep 7 when jun ho was like "that's disappointing" or whatever and "you can't feel your heartbeat even when we aren't touching?" GORL. pls make me yr bisexual wife

great writing example on how to write female characters. she's cool as all hell

very very true! i am now all caught up but i'm assuming that people are thinking he had a turbulent home life or? also that video *_* HE'S FINE AS HELL DAMN LMAO! and i love a devoted person! lmao are you all caught up?

she reminds me of hwang seung eon! https://kisskh.at/people/8470-hwang-seung-eon

there's something about her face (outside of typical beauty) and her movements for her character that had me think that i'd love to be her friend (or her gf ;) ). hopefully she does more stuff i really enjoyed watching her!

also he is hot. i didn't think he was when i first saw him on screen or when i saw gifs from run on (which i need to watch and will one day!!!) but now i'm like...yes....yes.

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i just started ep 3 and i'm sure i'll be caught up at the risk of a full night of sleep but i must see more. when i'm all caught up i'll be able to put your comment more into context! but i'm sure i agree!

your comment abt his past is making me think a lot actually. i tend to think that it gives people more depth if they have trauma from childhood since that is the most common and the easiest way for a life to get derailed but it actually doesn't make someone more interesting. it just makes life a lot harder.

still, well loved people can be miserable pieces of garbage and people who weren't loved the way they should have been/deserved can be so content and extremely well-adjusted. idk you just made me think abt this trope and while i do try to challenge myself i definitely have my own ideas of what would make someone an 'interesting' character basically by default and it actually makes me less imaginative! thankfully he's not awful so even with the tragic past it isn't a cover for him to be a horrendous misogynist abusive nightmare but still! what if a character is flawed not because of something horrendous they went through but simply because....they're a human being and humans are, for reasons within and without our control, flawed? :O

oh wow! thank you! love a good subreddit ;)

i didn't even check how many eps are out but i'll be done with the 6th by tonight wah. luckily more tmr but HOW DID U GUYS WAIT FOR THIS EVERY WEEK!!!!

and regards to #2 i am on episode 3 so shout out to your foresight! i'm wrapping up episode 3 and i'm definitely being confronted with my own biases and prejudices that i have to consistently and always work on. i know ableism is a thing and to some small extent i am affected but i think only through hearing others experiences and through mediums like this can the majority of us truly understand. DAMN this is evocative! i fucking hate that this is how the world is. the eugenics part was really powerful but it was gut-wrenching. and it sucks how ableism is something that we actively refuse to engage with dismantling even if we are part of other oppressed groups, even while we recognized all these forms of subjugations intertwine, we still need to find something to feel superior towards other people over. but we can do better; we have to.

i hope this made sense. again thanks so much for taking time out to share and explain your thoughts and experiences!

r i g h t ? it's going to be really nice to see how their romance develops cannot wait to see more (also they are hot 2gt)

no for #1 hahah that i knew. and no not #2 per se either. i have adhd and dyspraxia and i don't really consider myself ND but it does affect me and i understand many things overlap for people like co morbidity etc. but i know since the pandemic more people have been diagnosed with ASD (and ADHD as well both together and separately) esp young women and many of those women wouldn't necessarily identify with WYW since hers is a more pronounced (?) version of autism. not severe but enough that if people see her they know something is different about her. i get the point of the show as well!

i think i meant for this sort of "middle of the ground" autist if things seem not overblown or overdone and respectful lol and i think you are telling me that yes it is! i've seen some not great depictions in dramaland that's for sure and i know there's been a loooooot of ableism in SK* (with a sizeable autistic population to boot!) so when there's a character with a mental disability it can be coded as autism and it can be /a lot/ but this is obviously not that. gonna check out your discussion posts, and thank you so much for sharing all the links and everything. def something i need to learn more about

*obviously everywhere but here i am specifically referring to SK

oh yea definitely. i guess i mean things become much clearer when they allow themselves to deal with the ambivalences or confusions or contradictions of life on a societal yet interpersonal level. like to us (or "us") WYW doesn't make sense but she's actually extremely consistent and is trying to create order because of how truly confusing the world and its people are. no one can fit into these social boxes perfectly—ever—and when someone tries to establish some sort of consistent order it looks bizarre. it literally makes more sense to deplete your mental energy and to damage your body to get married, for money, or even better get a huge huge huge huge payout from a lack of marriage and capitalize off of your misery and humiliation than to stand up for yourself, or tell the truth, or say no but these are things WYW would do!

idk if this makes sense. ....i think the more we can accept those facts that life isn't simply 'slot a into slot b' we can let go of the tight reins we have in ourselves and the frankly ridiculous expectations we have for others who can't rise to a task even us 'normies' can?? IDK IT MADE SENSE IN ME HEAD AT THE TIME

yes about the doors! that's stuff i genuinely wouldn't have thought about but some people have to. and lol god i don't even want to imagine that :| i'm VERY GLAD it didn't pan out that way lmao i wonder what it would have been like even with the writing if it was on cable...thank god we don't have to find out

lmao i fuckin wish! thank you!

also i am getting deeper into the show and no one is boring and he's a breath of fresh air. there's nothing generic about him and he doesn't hide his frustrations or anything he's just actively trying to understand her. i can't think of anything less 2-dimensional tbqh. frankly the only conclusion i can come up with is that it is genuinely hard for us to understand why another person would try and understand another human who appears to be different and communicates differently (and sometimes it's actively hard to communicate/understand her because of it). if she weren't autistic how would we feel about those qualities? and everything he does isn't simply altruistic since he now has a sexual attraction to her...can't see what is missing when he's pretty much just being a human like everyone else.

oh nice i see the discussion above (i've never really used the feature before!) thank you so much!

anyway i appreciate the nuances of the show a lot in its vagueness—leaving things undefined with regards to sexuality and focusing on the core of the issue, like with the whale and the iron, or thoughts on marriage and woo young woo being acceptable, or her father being married. we tend to think everyone lives the same way and however it's presented it signifies their lives in totality when, in reality, we can't pinpoint people based off of arbitrary markers of so-called normalcy. and even the people that may seem to have it together and look normal can surprise young woo too. idk if this makes sense but this definitely seems to be a very special show determined to break out of the boundaries that very very very few do. in the hands of another team it could become boring and trite and just a show purely based on novelty but it actually has something to say.

i also really enjoy when the writing hits—us, as viewers, and her colleagues/people around her in the face—and becomes accusatory. accusatory of infantilizing her while also demanding things from her in on our own time. on one hand she needs time and space to be understood and heard but on the other it's always on our terms and never hers. comes back to the whole self-advocacy thing which duh because lawyers but. definitely something special and i hope it stays that way!

ok i came back cos i lied cos i'm too invested——
can anyone say how accurate this portrayal is? also baek ji won is soooooooooooo fucking beautiful (i mean this in more than a superficial way)

idk if i'm having an episode or what but i keep crying and i can't look away. episode 2 was so cute and i'm glad she got to be with the person she loves and self-advocate (which i like as a theme of the show a lot). and i can see why people like jun ho a lot—it's attractive when people understand differences and are patient. not perfect but patient and sensitive. even if she does things that we wouldn't understand, or that could be annoying or weird, at least he's trying to understand her. and yes that's a basic level of human decency but most people don't have it. and it takes WORK to be that type of person. it doesn't come naturally for most of us and that's okay. that's why it's attractive to see . he's really not boring at all but like...none of these characters are!

and why is every1 in this drama so good looking! and i mean everyone is just pleasing to look at and it's very pleasant. really want to see more of shin ha young and not just cos i'd be honored 2 date ha

right? and honestly he's a great male character to boot. i don't trust this writer as far as i can throw her after that abomination so when i found out she was doing 'mine' the whiplash...maybe one day we will get our wish.... ;---; until then all we have are these deeply TERRIBLE but sexually tense memories

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