KiKo Tsukino

I like to hold onto that belief that just like the novel, Zhi Yang will come back in the end, so I will just wait to see how this plays out.

Well, all I can say is that we have different perspectives here. To me, how I see it is Qing Mu is the side of Bai Jue that is hidden from the world because he grew up with such high expectation and big responsibility from the Ancestral God. His cute side came out when he lose all memories of his past and can be a carefree person. I bet they would have been the cutest couple if such tragedies didn't happened 60,000 yrs ago.

So I honestly dont see them as two separate person because they are one person to me, the same way how Hou Chi is Shang Gu.

The only reason why both Qing Mu and Hou Chi, have their own personality and identity is because they both(while individually ARE Bai Jue and Shang Gu respectively), don't have any memories of their past and the responsibility coming from their identies respectively to hold them back, they can love each other freely like this. Its like in a realistic setting, if two people have amnesia, they became someone different, but it doesn't mean what they experience through those times is not themselves because thats still their body, and so to me, the baby came from Qing Mu and Hou Chi's love for each other yes, but it is an extension to Bai Jue and Shang Gu's love for each other because it's still them.

It is fine if you love Qing Mu and Hou Chi better, but I just don't agree with your perspective in saying the baby is Qing Mu and not Bai Jue, and if you see the baby is Shang Gu too, then Bai Jue is the father, since Qing Mu is Bai Jue, like Hou Chi is Shang Gu.

And yes, Bai Jue loves Shang Gu, but you need to also remember that if Bai Jue didn't care for anyone but Shang Gu, and like you said he separate the two, Hou Chi is Hou Chi, and Shang Gu is Shang Gu, then he wouldn't have given Hou Chi the bracelet that protects her, he wouldn't have taken care of her all those years and only showing his gentle and kind self to her back then and being his normal ice cube to the other house hold like those servants said, that's why they like Qing Mu better because Qing Mu is nice to everyone.

All I am saying is, to Bai Jue (when he was Bo Xuan), he dont separate Hou Chi and Shang Gu, she's always been Shang Gu to him even when her identity have changed, it doesn't change the fact that he knows shes Shang Gu but without the memories of Shang Gu.

I know what is going to happen later because I have read the ending part to the novel. And I know what he's going to do, and why he's being cold to her and act like he doesn't remember Hou Chi (when I know its a lie).

Anyways, for me personally, I don't separate them, for me Qing Mu is Bai Jue and Hou Chi is Shang Gu for all said.

Oh that's okay lol. It can get confusing at times

It's safe to conclude they never consummate their marriage, so I don't see them as officially wedded, so we can take it that their ceremony was just an act and never completely went trough the official wedded procedures.

From what I got out of the novel and from what I remembered Zhi Yang isn't dead, but he's just in slumber or stuck somewhere.

Shouldn't you reply to Melissa Zhang's post? Since I didn't said Zhi Yang is dead. I only questioned her since she listed Zhi Yang as one of the characters who died.

I see, but then this doesn't make sense, since Wu Huan and Jing Jian isn't put into the guest roles category 😅🤣

Agreed. Well at least through Qing Mu, we get to see another side to Bai Jue, even when we all going to miss that side to him now T ^ T (I still love Bai Jue on my end though), but Qing Mu also have a special place to my heart, to be able to see that side to him is a blessing.

Same here. I wouldn't like that too. I want a more conclusive and fulfilling happy ending. But I guess we will see when that time comes. For me, the ending to TMPB (Ten Miles Peach Blossom) Drama is better with the extended ending scene than compared to the novel, so I am hoping Ancient Love Poetry will be the same too.

It's going to be a happy ending, but they go through a lot of angst and pain just to get their happy ending.

I don't like tragic ending to the pairings I love too, but you don't need to worry, since novel is a happy ending, and ZDY (actress to Shang Gu) revealed it is a happy ending.

Yes, it does hurt, at that time I really wanted Qing Mu to tell her "Ofcourse it's you", but his hesitation, and what he said "don't hurt her", without him knowing that he actually said it, omg, that cut through the heart right there. I tend to not like seeing these references, I mean, I can understand if one of them is the one who experienced it in the past, but if they both don't have memories of their past (Qing Mu don't have his memories as Bai Jue)(Hou Chi don't have her memories as Shang Gu), then they should only be referenced as their love for each other (in their current life), but in the end, I just try to understand the situation and why it happened, because ultimately Qing Mu is still Bai Jue, and Hou Chi is Shang Gu, I see Qing Mu and Hou Chi's love is an extension to Bai Jue and Shang Gu. A more open and innocent type of love, where they just love each other openly like this. I have no doubt that if the tragedy didn't happen 60,000 years ago, they will still have their own version of loving each other like this(sweet type of love). But in the end, before Qing Mu combine into one with Bai Jue, he did show me how much he loves Hou Chi, so yeah, Qing Mu did give me his answer in the end, i.e. his love for Hou Chi, and I am going to miss him. I do hope that we get to see an extension to the ending, where Bai Jue can still have some traits of Qing Mu, because I am going to miss the love between them as Qing Mu and Hou Chi.

Didn't Zhi Yang come back in the end of the novel? I think I remember reading he did in the end (and I was so happy he did, because he was one of my favourite characters) of the story.

My reply? Yes, it's what I know from the book, but I do think, judging from the trailer it will carry out the same, where Shang Gu won't find out the whole truth until Bai Jue is gone. And when she did, she went to that place where Bai Jue's soul dissipated, and what she saw is probably a flashback of Bai Jue before he completely disappear :(

To me, I can't fault what Bai Jue is doing, yes, I don't like seeing him being cold to Hou Chi / Shang Gu, but ultimately, I understand how doing this to her is hurting him too, because all he wanted was to make her happy. It is more sad to see him being misunderstood in the story when that time comes. I am not going to misunderstand him, I know why he's doing what he's doing.

I actually made a reply yesterday to another comment in here, so I will be pasting my reply to you here:

There's two sides to the coin here. Ofcourse no one likes to see Bai Jue pushing her away and being cold to her, but at the same time you need to understand that it doesn't make him hurt less to have to do this to her. When all he wanted was for her to be happy and safe. Thats why he kept it platonic with her as Bo Xuan, when she's 'Hou Chi', because he wanted her to remember it as their happy times, even when its short, that's why Qing Mu and Hou Chi falling in love and being together have distorted his plan because he didn't want her to be involve with Qing Mu since it will only make it harder for him in the end because originally he just want her to stay out of this, but her meeting Qing Mu, and they falling in love, just means that he have to force himself to be cold to her , which wasn't what he wanted either, so she will forget about him and that she don't have to go through the same pain he went through all those years ago when she chose to sacrifice herself, and him witnessing it.

He also didn't want Shang Gu to awaken before he succeed his plan, because yet again, he don't want to hurt her anymore than he have to, lying to Hou Chi by saying "you look like her but you're not her" and pretending he have no memories of the time they had when he is Qing Mu, is less hurtful than telling Shang Gu that, in these 60,000 years, so many things have changed, that includes my feeling for you, so in the end, he only did what he have to, to protect her, but destiny seems to play with him and distort his original plan. So really, if you look at it his original plan, it was never his intention to want to hurt her, but its the changes to it, that made it inevitable because he didn't want Shang Gu to be the one to sacrifice, he did all he could to keep the truth from her so she don't have to know and go through the same pain he once did, even if it meant she would misunderstand him and hate him at least she's alive and protected. I actually understand Bai Jue to be honest. Its going to be sad to see him being misunderstood though.

Yes, it hurts Shang Gu to find out later what Bai Jue did, and what sacrificed he went through to protect her, but it also hurt him back then to witness this before his eyes, when Shang Gu faded in front of him. For Bai Jue, he really did all he could to make it less hard for her to witness him disappearing in front of her, to make it less hurtful, since the impact isn't the same than to see the one you love, dying but you can't do anything but watch when it happened. What I am trying to explain is, yes, Bai Jue didn't consider Shang Gu's feelings when he went with this plan of his, but there's two sides to the coin here, just like what he did now, is the same as what Shang Gu did back then when she chose to go along with her destiny because Bai Jue didn't want her to do it, but she decided to go through with it, and Bai Jue have to inevitably watch her follow her fate to sacrifice and bring peace for everyone. I think there's no right or wrong here, they both will do what they can for the peace of the three realms, Shang Gu decides to follow her destiny, but Bai Jue, just wants to protect her and sacrifice silently and take her place in this tribulation instead. The difference between these two, is, Bai Jue witness Shang Gu fading away and her souls being scattered, whereas Shang Gu didn't know any of this until Bai Jue is gone, so she at least didn't witness this in front of her, didn't go through the same state of mind when Bai Jue "died", as he did when Shang Gu "died" but he couldn't do anything but watch on his end when that happened..

The baby is the love between Hou Chi and Qing Mu, yes, but they are still Shang Gu and Bai Jue, so to say the baby is Qing Mu and not Bai Jue, then that is like saying, the baby is Hou Chi and not Shang Gu, if that makes sense. In the end, I don't really see it like you though, to me, the baby happened because of Qing Mu and Hou Chi, yes, but the love they shared is an extension to the love between Bai Jue and Shang Gu, because that's their actual body, and no matter if it's Qing Mu with Hou Chi or not, it is still the love between Shang Gu and Bai Jue in a metaphorical sense, but that's how I see it.

As for the marriage between Bai Jue and that bitch (princess), I wouldn't condemn him for being unfaithful because we all know he loves no one but Shang Gu (Hou Chi), and I am speaking with confidence being 100% that he did NOT consummate his marriage with that bitch (princess), so I don't see it as legally marriage on my end. They don't even share the same room either.

Truth be told, I am not a fan of Ashes of Love on my end, but I will respect your love for it, to me I love Ancient Love Poetry way better than Ashes of Love, and that's my opinion. Each to their own preferences here.

I see it like this, Qing Mu was created, yes, because it was needed in order to accomplish his plan to cultivate the 'power of chaos', so Bai Jue needs to separate his core/essence and created Qing Mu. Qing Mu is literally Bai Jue, but without Bai Jue's memories and the essence of Bai Jue.

That body is still Bai Jue, because the one in slumber in the ice cave/in the northern sea, is Bai Jue's spirit/soul that was separated from his actual body, so that's why in the end, Bai Jue (Bo Xuan) went back into Qing Mu's body, because they are 'one person'. The only reason they don't have the same personality, is Qing Mu don't have the memories of Bai Jue when Bai Jue separated his spirit/soul from Qing Mu, so the journey that Qing Mu go through, is still the actual body of Bai Jue, but without Bai Jue's memories and essence, since the real Bai Jue (Bo Xuan) is in slumber all these years. To me, I see Qing Mu is the side to Ba Jue that is hidden from the world because he grew up with such high expectation and big responsibility from the Ancestral God. His cute side came out when he lose all memories of his past and can be a carefree person. More carefree and honest too, it's still Bai Jue, but the him that is more honest and upfront with his feelings, and not keep everything inside (like his usual self).

When they became one again, their memories became one, so Bai Jue, Qing Mu and Bo Xuan, all into one memory since they are now one. Bai Jue knows he is Bo Xuan, and he knows what happened when he was Qing Mu, even though he is pretending he doesn't know or don't remember Hou Chi, he only did it so that he can ensure his plans (that he is planning) will go through smoothly without involving Shang Gu (Hou Chi).

It was never explained, but it was highly hinted that it's some embarrassing story on Bai Jue when he was young and something he made both Tian Qi and Zhi Yang promise to not mention it again. It was something to do with how the Ancient God took them to the battlefield, and Tian Qi was about to reveal the details, but Bai Jue stopped him XD. I think it was an embarrassing moment from Bai Jue from back then, because, well, they all were young once, and would have done something that they themselves is not proud of (So Bai Jue have his own version too lol. Too bad we never get to find out the full details), because he stopped them both from saying further and said "You swore you wouldn't bring it up". I said it's an embarrassing moment for Bai Jue, because Tian Qi hinted when he said to Zhi Yang that if the immortals of the lower realm found out, Bai Jue will be laughed at in the three realms so that will really greatly humiliate Bai Jue hahaha

Oh, but in episode 2, if you see the part between Bai Jue, Tian Qi and Zhi Yang, Bai Jue was revealing all Zhi Yang hidden secrets without holding back LOL 😂 because he did it as pay back to Zhi Yang, because he lied to Bai Jue by saying Shang Gu is submissive and hardworking and never makes trouble, just to get Bai Jue to agree to teach her, and now it's Bai Jue's turn to get back at him by revealing Zhi Yang embarrassing stories of his past LOL 😂 That whole moment is just so FUN to watch LOL. And then Tian Qi laughed and said to Zhi Yang, that "What did I say, you can offend anyone, but not the vengeful cold man" LOLOLOL 😂 [So to a degree, Bai Jue will not let it slide on his end LOL 😂]

Qing Mu is honestly another side to Bai Jue that we don't get to see, he's so adorable, and loveable, and, and, he will always be in my heart. I love how adorable he is when he picked the bouquet of flowers for Hou Chi when it turned out to be flower medicine 😂And how he is such a great cook! [And since Qing Mu is Bai Jue, and Bai Jue have Qing Mu memories, I am going to conclude Bai Jue can cook too, whether we get to see him cook or not]. Gu Jun is SO LUCKY to have Qing Mu cook for him hahahahaah, and how he made good use of this chance to try out all those cuisines that Qing Mu pour his heart into pleasing his "father in law" XDD 😂

I think for Bai Jue's case, looking at back then and now, he wouldn't want to hurt Shang Gu's feelings if there's a choice, but it also shows the core of him didn't really change, i.e. if it comes to Shang Gu's safety, he will do what it takes to fulfil it, but the difference between him and Tian Qi is that Tian Qi will sacrifice everything, including the 3 realms to protect Shang Gu, but for Bai Jue, he won't go through such extremes by sacrificing innocents/3 realms, he will do so by replacing her and taking her place for this tribulation, but doing it silently, even when he once again, didn't consider how Shang Gu would feel about all this (but we take two and two here, since Shang Gu, decided to sacrifice herself back then too, despite Bai Jue told her to not do it, so she didn't really consider Bai Jue's feelings also), in the end, to a degree, Bai Jue isn't insanely ruthless, he won't bring down the 3 realms to save one person, that's what makes him and Tian Qi different in terms of their paths to getting there, even when their end goal is the same at the end (i.e. protecting Shang Gu), I just don't see Bai Jue nor could I label him as someone ruthless haha, because he still care for the 3 realms to want to protect it still (but that's how I see it).

True, omg, now that you brought it up, I can't stop thinking about it. This is why re-watching is good, because you tend to pick out these details / gems that you might have missed from your first watch <3

If you're waiting for the episodes release (is a torture, I know T ^ T) then watch the drama from the beginning again, because that helps actually XDD. I am picking out the little details I missed when I first watched it, and I am really enjoying the brothership/trio between Bai Jue, Tian Qi and Zhi Yang (love them) XD. And it made me really, really miss the times they had back then, they were peaceful times before everything happened.