TexanTitan

Y'all. What. I am ready for this!

Ok, but can Pangina just have the lead role???

He's a grown ass man, not a child. What do you mean, he doesn't know any better??? Your comment is so infantilizing to people with mental illness (such as myself). Having a mental illness doesn't mean you get excused for your shitty behavior. People with mental illness should be held accountable for our behavior just like anyone else, otherwise, you are saying we are basically children, not able to know right from wrong and be good people. Nah, gtfo here with that bs.

Jae Won is a diiiiiiiiick.

Yeah, I thought it was a dream

Oh, yeah, I've been watching that one too!

I think this is just kind of a thing in BL, especially the older ones. A lot of them did this, where there was a 2-3 second pause between every line of dialogue, even when the pauses were totally unnecessary. Most of the newer BLs have stopped doing this, but every now and then one comes back and does it.

What's the other one?

This show has really evolved into something unexpected. This last episode was very touching and I have to say, they have done a surprisingly good job of delicately portraying Uea's trauma and mental health journey. King has really stepped up and their relationship has changed in really positive ways. I love that Uea is still himself and hasn't given up his personality to his new relationship with King. And the way they are actually working to resolve the workplace sexual harassment and sexual assaults is very unusual for a BL.

This series still has plenty of flaws (the pacing for example, when people are talking I never know if they are pausing because they are giving the other person time to respond or if they are pausing because the director told them to, it's too slow), but it has grown far beyond what I expected at the beginning. This is a great example of a show that can have a strong sexual component and still have a meaningful plot (unlike Check Out, or even Big Dragon, which had a terrible first half, but got a little better in the 2nd half)

you wrote paragraphs about other people writing paragraphs...seems like you're pressed about it haha

I like Moonlight chicken and my school president, so I'm fine with them having high ratings. I also like this show, but I wouldn't give it a rating until it's over, because without knowing how it ends, I can't say what I think the quality is. A bad ending drags the quality of the showdown a lot.

Also you seem to be doing exactly (opposite) what you're accusing Thai fans of doing, which is promoting Korean bl's and criticizing thai bls

Jae Won went to therapy and worked on his issues, obvi haha

Uhhhh....the tension between these two! Every time they start staring at each other, I am trapped! It's like being a fly caught in a spider web. I love it! I am so nervous for Ji Hyun's heart, I feel like he's going to get it broken at least once during this relationship. 💓💙

Yeah, I hear that. I would love to see more asexual representation as well. It's always frustrating from the perspective of representation, but also I bet there are lots of amazing stories about asexual people that we're just not getting to see.

Cute, fluffy, they both got over the 7 year gap really fast, not much else to say. I liked it, probably won't stick with me for too long (cause it's fluff haha)

Yes, I do think that BL as a genre historically is about straight people capitalizing off of the desires of queer people to see ourselves represented in media. However, I do think that in recent years, that has been changing. For example many of the GMM TV dramas have queer directors and, most likely queer cast members, although of course it is difficult for them to come out of the closet publicly, I know. I do think that Thailand has been one of the countries at the forefront of the move to put more queer people behind the camera and at the very least, to have actors support queer causes such as the same sex marriage referendum in
Thailand.

I agree with you, it is not as simple as kiss means good, no kiss means bad. I also think that I am more frustrated with this drama than many because the lead up was so good. A similar situation would be the Japanese version of cherry magic. It was amazing and then at the end they teased a kiss and hid it behind elevator doors. Because the drama was so good the fall at the ending was even worse.

I think the show can be praised for the relative complexity of its plot, which I also enjoyed, while also criticized for its ending. All dramas are a mixture of positive things and negative things, so I think it's fair to present a balanced critique that gives credit where it's due but also holds accountability where accountability is due.

I mean, if you're arguing that some people just love to see people kiss and make out and have sex and they don't think that a drama is worth watching if those things aren't in it, I mean that's up to those people's personal taste. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I agree that doesn't necessarily speak to the quality of the drama, just the taste of the viewer. On the other hand, I am very sensitive to straight people making money off of queer people. In this show specifically, they teased the kiss multiple times (in the library, the kiss to the ear in the last episode). So it is clear to me that the producers understood that most people expect romantic partners to kiss, but instead of showing it authentically, they teased it and then were too cowardly to follow through. That makes me not want to support the drama because it feels exploitative. Give us your money but hide expressions of your love.

One point to clarify, I am not saying that queer dramas are not worth watching unless there is a kiss, what I am saying is when it's clear that the kiss was purposefully removed or avoided to appease heterosexual sensibilities, that is a problem. If there is a reason in the plot why the characters don't kiss, then that is great and should be explored. I agree, that there should be more representation of people from all parts of the queer community. But it is very clear to me that the reason there was no kiss in this BL, despite the fact that a previous commenter mentioned there is a kiss in the bonus material in the manhwa, is because the producers want to capitalize on the popularity of BL dramas right now while still protecting the presumably straight reputations of the main actors

Nope, I don't know a single queer person (and I know a lot of queer people) who don't kiss their partner. If a media company is going to portray queer people, they need to show queer people expressing their love in the normal way that people do that with, as Disney has shown us, true love's kiss.

If the manhwa is like that, it has the same problem as the series, print or tv, same situation.

Are you really trying to tell me that you *don't* think they refused to show a kiss because of conservatism, anti-gay sentiment in Korea, the fear on the actor's part that it might damage their career, etc...? Are do you really think they had some artistic reason for it??? Art should be brave, love should be brave. This ending stinks of fear.

Queer people kiss in real life. If you make a show about queer people and are too cowardly to have them kiss, you are just trying to bilk the LGBTQ out of our money. It's gross, stop doing it. I know Korea is conservative, but not so conservative they don't want to make money off our backs. If you are one of those people saying, "they don't have to kiss!", well, you are essentially saying that you support the idea that queer people kissing is so shocking that it needs to be censored, removed, and/or purposefully left out (so the straights can make money off us but still keep their career afterwards). Nope, it's a cowardly cop out.

If you liked the show, cool. I like a lot of it too. But as a queer person, I find the whole ending completely a let down. And we all know that if it had a been a straight show, they would have kissed.