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Replying to OneAjhussi Nov 13, 2020
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No it's legit question. I also thought they needed authorization and a cooperation in order to use YongSil in…
It's Kdrama, they simplify most of the technical stuff to focus on the drama side.
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Replying to Ayla Flower Nov 13, 2020
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New promo photos for ep.9 are so nice :) family moments :)
link?
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Replying to Nox Nov 13, 2020
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Same way you want to enter the winning ship, i want to enter the one who feels right for me. It's not about the…
No, it's too late to introduce someone with roughly 7 episodes left, there will be no impact. Plus the only girls left are Saha and WIJ, which he doesn't have a relationship with either.

No, there is no world I can imagine HJP, NDS, SDM having a family get together laughing, all the negative emotions are there, that whoever SDM chooses will be hurt, it's not like HJP and NDS were best friends to begin with, and thus their friendship would survive.

Highly unrealistic they will still act like a family, HJP may be cordial, but that's about it.

Grandma - HJP Endgame. I'm calling it now.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 13, 2020
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I have issue with NDS lie because it's impersonation. And the dangerous part of it, if NDS was a bit more evil,…
Yeah, but that is after the fact that HJP wanted to tell the truth, but NDS did not want.

HJP even asked, why didn't you tell the truth? He had the opportunity to tell SDM after he told her about Grandma's secret, but didn't either. And what does Grandma's blindness secret, and the the truth about the lie have to do with each other?

Also, why listen to HJP now, after not listening to him the last few times?

He still could have revealed the truth then and there, what was stopping him? It wasn't HJP that's for sure, he made his own decision to continue lying. Grandma didn't tell him not to reveal the truth about the lies, just about her eyes.
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Replying to Nox Nov 13, 2020
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Same way you want to enter the winning ship, i want to enter the one who feels right for me. It's not about the…
Yeah, highly unlikely HJP ends up with the girl.

But i'll be glad if he at least ends up taking care of Grandma and they at least have a happy ending.
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Replying to Dreamy Nov 13, 2020
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Even with that, still Do San has lost the integrity I find any ML shd be having to be able for me to root for…
Just pointing out, if anything in how the business aspect of Samsan Tech were to occur in real life, it would have failed already.

SDM becoming a competent CEO based on her hustle is so unrealistic.

SDM seems to respect HJP views, something DM's mother never had for her father. So that's a big difference.

And SDM has shown she will also stand up to HJP

NDS has not shown that he is able to stand up to SDM at all. Which is worrying in a real relationship.

In real life also, I would trust HJP more than NDS. NDS seems to be scheming half those times, he has his head down and looks out to the distance. With HJP, he screams, he shouts, but you know clearly what he wants.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 13, 2020
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I have issue with NDS lie because it's impersonation. And the dangerous part of it, if NDS was a bit more evil,…
In the preview, we see HJP's frustration, he has wanted since the early episodes to tell his feelings to SDM, but he keeps stopping himself. Maybe because he feels he is not worthy, or w/e reason.

Wait, NDS tried to tell the truth but was stopped by Grandma and HJP? When did this happen?

I remember the opposite happening, HJP wanting the truth out, but NDS saying, let's lie a bit longer.

Regardless, the writer had a good start to the show, but midway, she's dropping the ball hard, focusing too much on the romance and less on what made the show interesting in the first place. Also, KSH being such a great actor, broke out of his SL mold, and is in serious contention, but as you said, he stands no chance due to writer bias.
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On Start-Up Nov 13, 2020
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I'm going to be crying buckets when I see Grandma and HJP cry next episode.

But bone dry when I see NDS cry.

Just putting it out there.

I am 100% sure, when SDM confronts HJP, he will still pretend to her face, he has no feelings...
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Replying to Nox Nov 13, 2020
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Same way you want to enter the winning ship, i want to enter the one who feels right for me. It's not about the…
Eh, it doesn't matter. He didn't tell her the truth out of his own volition, he tells her the truth, because she finds out herself from the handwriting of HJP.

So it doesn't really count...

I think most HJP fans are already preparing for the worst. I mean 9/10 promotional material shows NDS and SDM only.

and on MDL, KSH name is 3rd, which always denotes SL position.

Just putting it out there, seeing NDS cry, I will not shed a tear. Seeing HJP cry... where is my crying bucket?
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Replying to Dreamy Nov 13, 2020
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Even with that, still Do San has lost the integrity I find any ML shd be having to be able for me to root for…
Compare Richard Hendricks of Pied Piper and Nam Do San of Samtech.

Just night and day. Hendricks always stays true to himself.

HJP isn't even trying, he's even pushing her away at times, yet they still have undeniable chemistry.

NDS character would have been fine, if HJP character was being run by an actor with less stage presence.
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Replying to Dreamy Nov 13, 2020
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Even with that, still Do San has lost the integrity I find any ML shd be having to be able for me to root for…
Regarding your two reasons.

1st - Almost half of Kdrama main couple leads, if not more, is because the guy is a mentor and someone who looks out for the FL, FYI.

2nd - Those differences you mention in HJP is precisely why he is a good fit. Every dreamer needs an anchor that will help them realizes there is a life underneath the clouds.

Which is also why SDM is good for HJP, as she will help him realize that numbers aren't everything, sometimes you have to believe. Something HJP is starting to realize, especially during his conversation with the CEO of Sandbox. Some would argue, a marriage without arguments is one doomed to fail.

If she were to start anew with NDS or HJP, it wouldn't work. If she started with NDS, I believe she should quit the company, because it's a huge conflict of interest and a distraction.

If she is with HJP, she still has to quit the company, as NDS would be too heartbroken to continue having SDM there.

So best case, she doesn't end up with either tbh, or starts her own company.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 13, 2020
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I hope not, i'm shipping him and Saha. Plus I think it's a red herring.
If you want more information about start up, the VC process, funding incubators, and stuff. Watch Silicon Valley on HBO, much much more informative. You even learn a bit about coding as well.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 13, 2020
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Nothing is shown or implied. We just assume that the developers of Yong Shil is in sandbox also and they are helping…
Yeah it's weird, we are led to believe in the beginning episodes that NDS lacks any communication skills because he has strong convictions and very logical. But in the last 4 episodes it looks to be the opposite.

Plus something like this would be a job for the CEO, SDM more than NDS.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 13, 2020
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Let's look at the facts. Grandma started the lie, for good reasons, and for noble reasons. Over the span of 15…
your right, DS wanted SDM to fall for the real him, that was his plan from the beginning, he wanted to overtake the spot in SDM heart that is filled with fake dosan. I think that is clear.

I don't see how HJP benefits at all from the lie. In fact, if he really loves SDM, HJP benefits more from the truth. Think about that.
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Replying to pbjcruffin Nov 13, 2020
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I feel that beside HJP, actually NDS is also a complex character. We focused too much on HJP's back story that…
Yes, but we are shown the fragile nature of NDS psyche. A stronger willed person, would strive for the best, and then we can deal with the issues being a child prodigy, being smarter than everyone else.

But instead, he took the cowards way out, he purposely failed to be with kids his own age. So now, there is no pressure, so any interesting backstory that could have been is gone. He's just another smart kid who didn't live up to his potential because he did not want to deal with the pressure.

Plus I get the inkling his parents don't understand the kind of person NDS is, so their POV of him is unreliable.

So his story becomes a pretty boring, smart kid who is not confident, finds love and gives him confidence to be successful... Pretty cliche.
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Replying to Hime Nov 13, 2020
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Let me just say something that will probably anger a lot of people. The letter that made her fall in love was…
I have issue with NDS lie because it's impersonation. And the dangerous part of it, if NDS was a bit more evil, he could keep up the lie forever, in fact he even says he wanted to keep lying to its maximum life...

The lie concocted by Grandma and HJP, was meant for a young girl that has no qualms about meeting Dosan, but the adult SDM wanted to meet Dosan, where the lie would have fallen apart.

Big difference here.

I already have some distaste for the drama for even having a love triangle in the first place. Plus they barely show WIJ, who I think is a really interesting character in her own right. Why call WIJ main lead if she barely has screen time.
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Replying to f15_da Nov 13, 2020
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i guess the man who gonna take revenge is yongsan. why? because when he works overtime, i think actually he make…
I hope not, i'm shipping him and Saha. Plus I think it's a red herring.
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On Start-Up Nov 13, 2020
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I think some people are missing the point.

Catfishing, although bad, is a much lesser crime than Impersonation Fraud or Identity Theft. And FYI, catfishing although unethical is not a crime, impersonation is a crime.

On an online dating site, when you pretend you make make believe facts about yourself, like you are athletic, handsome, a soulful writer, but in reality you are just faking it. That is called catfishing, and it's deceitful and wrong, regardless of the motive. Plus the jig is up when the person decides to meet, and realizes he/she was catfished, and the relationship ends. This pales in comparison though to Impersonation or Identity Fraud

Impersonation Fraud is when someone pretends to be someone he is not. It's not only wrong, it's criminally wrong.

In fact, imagine this scenario.

There are identical twins. One is happy with a family, wife 2 kids, big mansion and etc... The other one, ended up an orphan, was abused and etc... One fated night, both men are in the bus together, they realize they are long lost twins. They have dinner and the poorer twin realizes how great his brother's life is. So he decides to murder his twin and take over his life. The wife, although he thinks his husband seems different, decides to live with the evil twin. Pretty sure this is a plot of some kdrama somewhere. And the person doing the pretending will 9/10 times be vilified by the audience.

I think people are missing the fact that, in Grandma and HJP's lie, the minute SDM tries to find out the real NDS or tries to find the truth, the jig is up, the lie is over.

In NDS case, if he wanted to keep up the lie for all eternity, he totally could. He could have pretended to be fake Dosan until he and SDM have kids, grow old and die. There lies the big thing wrong about it.

Why people still don't see this, I don't know. The writer should have spent more time making HJP more evil, and NDS more nicer, and consistent.
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Replying to LR_ Nov 13, 2020
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So like...did Yong Sil's developer outright agree to be a part of NoonGil? No struggle getting them aboard? And…
Nothing is shown or implied. We just assume that the developers of Yong Shil is in sandbox also and they are helping each other out.
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Replying to jasper Nov 13, 2020
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also dal mi and do san are dating lmaoo. why should he let his girl have "a moment" with his love rival?
a couple of things.

I think he was more afraid HJP would reveal the truth, which HJP was about to do, because he couldn't come up with any other answer to her question. NDS wasn't ready for the truth to come out, so he blindsided HJP here. You can see HJP reaction after the fact.

At this point, NDS knew that SDM relationship with him is still 80% because of 15 years fake Dosan. So he wasn't ready for the truth to come out yet.
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