Young director Hazama are responsible for 1,2,7,8,11, and 12. If there's no hot scene in ep 10, I doubt there…
The most important thing for me is the chemistry, and they have that in spades. If there is no chemistry, it doesn't matter how much skinship they throw in, or how much nudity, it won't convince me of anything. But if there is chemistry, I don't really need any explicit scenes to be convinced. I don't mind the ones who do go for both, and if it's well done I even appreciate it, but it's not necessary for me.
The way Kurosswa talked about his reward. I-Even before the subs, I knew he was acting sus. Now with subs, I have…
I can't think of a good reason. If he does tell Kurosawa, he needs to do it before he loses it and can still prove it, or he will simply be thought of as crazy. But then he will also have to reveal that he will lose it once he loses his virginity, which puts... some pressure on Kurosawa, mildly speaking (imagine trying to have sex with someone who is (a) a virgin and (b) can read every dirty thought in your mind).
The way Kurosswa talked about his reward. I-Even before the subs, I knew he was acting sus. Now with subs, I have…
He did it at least twice -- once with Rokkaku in the restaurant where he walked behind him with a hand on his shoulder, and once with the visiting high-up guy when Kurosawa was in trouble. But he hasn't done it on purpose with Kurosawa, IIRC.
You have such a nice job. I mean I can't start, i just want to say congrats and let's have many CM watch parties…
We should definitely do it on a specific date every year, like October 9th, when the first episode dropped, or October 2nd, the in-series date when Adachi turned 30, or October 30th, the in-series date when Adachi confessed to Kurosawa and they became a couple... Big thanks to Nanakor for the timeline!
But I may need one or two in January and February aside from that, just to survive the recent end of the series!
Listen girl, if it's admin themselves say something regarding you spoiling others you obviously have adhere to…
I can tell that you are really upset about this. FWIW, I was here in CM fandom since day one, but I am a fairly new user on the site since I only discovered BL late this summer. So I don't know if you would consider me one of the new users you mention.
(Okay, so this is going to be long, because this is an important matter to me. My apologies in advance.)
I see this happening with a lot of fandoms -- as soon as they grow, the sheer number of fans will mean that you lose some of the tight-knit feeling of the early days, there will be more disparate attitudes, and more conflicts. It's especially hard here where we have one single page to discuss all the episodes and everything connected with the series -- with another format, there might be separate pages/topics for each episode, which would make discussions more disjointed, but would also keep people from being involuntarily spoiled. But this site is what it is and we have to make the most of it. It's easy to feel as if we've lost something intimate and special that we had in the early days when there were fewer of us, and in some ways we have. It's the nature of success.
Full disclosure: I am personally more of a spoilerphobe, which means that I tend to stay away from this page from the time the raw drops until I've seen the sub. I do this because I am neither able nor feel I have the right to keep other people from spoiling me on those days. It's impossible to control others, unless you have the powers of an admin (and even then it can be hard, lol). And since there are no official guidelines for this on the site, and all of us are ordinary users, we'll just have to try and coexist as best we can, which means being considerate and prepared to compromise, and I mean from both sides. As a new fan, you can't expect the page to be spoiler-free of previous episodes when the show is nearing its end, and you have to accept that you will occasionally be spoiled about new details that others might not consider spoilers, or simply stay away until you're caught up. And those of us who jump on the raw as soon as it drops can be considerate too, simply by using the spoiler tag. I know there's no consensus about what constitutes a spoiler, and occasionally there will be disagreements or slip-ups (I've certainly slipped up myself). And the higher our numbers, the more disagreements we'll experience. It's unavoidable, and the only thing we can do about it is try and be polite and kind, and try our best to listen to the other side -- and compromise. None of us are entitled to getting our own way at the cost of other people's comfort or enjoyment. My feelings aren't worth more than your feelings. If we have a request from others, we can try to put it in a polite, respectful way. If someone makes a polite request from us, we can try to put ourselves in the other person's shoes, and be polite about our response, even if we don't feel that it's reasonable. (I've tried to look back through the comments, and I may still have missed something, but it looked to me as if the original request for spoiler tags *was* politely phrased -- but the rebuttals weren't. Then again, I don't have the full context since the original comment it was referring to was deleted.)
The thing is, we are in this together because we love the same thing, and we are all valid, even though some of us are newer than others, some of us are more informed than others, and some of us are still learning about how to be and act in a community. It's not a battle, and I don't think we would gain anything by allowing it to become one and forcing people to take sides. I personally dislike artificial dvisions and hierarchies in fandoms (old vs new, die hard vs casual, "true" vs "fake" -- yes, I've seen all of these), and I especially dislike the pitting of one against the other. I've left fandom communities before due to this. Once you start referring to other groups in a disparaging way (like "some newbie said" or "it was *those* shippers" or "the old-guard clique") you've already set foot on that path.
The best fandoms I've seen are ones where the long-time fans act as enthusiastic mentors to the new ones, and thoughtfulness, reason and positivity reign. In any growing fandom, you run the risk of troublemakers coming in just to stir up anger, and sometimes they can succed in completely ruining a community. But I've also seen communities where such actions were immediately and firmly shut down, because all the other members had managed to build a very kind, inclusive, respectful and creative atmosphere, and were very disinclined to let it be corrupted. I know of one that is still, after years of continual growth, miraculously self-regulating without any active admins or moderators. It's not the small group of tightly knit enthusiasts it was in the early days, but somehow it still manages to keep the same spirit of inclusiveness and friendliness. And the only reason I can see why it has managed to do that is because every individual member is totally committed to keeping it that way.
As for this specific situation, it's hard because it would be impossible for all of us to agree on what constitutes a spoiler and what doesn't. I'd like to propose a very simple rule of thumb: When in doubt, use the spoiler tag.
And another one, if I may: Try to be kind to each other.
You have such a nice job. I mean I can't start, i just want to say congrats and let's have many CM watch parties…
Why only yearly? Lol! Seriously, once Cheri Maho ends, i will miss it so much that I might appreciate a marathon or two just to alleviate my withdrawal pains. :)
I think I am in the most minority...who loves to read spoiler before watching any drama..I feel like the director…
Haha, we're all different :) I had friends in school who used to search their parents' closets in December to try and figure out what they were getting for Christmas, something I would never dream of doing!
But I may need one or two in January and February aside from that, just to survive the recent end of the series!
(Okay, so this is going to be long, because this is an important matter to me. My apologies in advance.)
I see this happening with a lot of fandoms -- as soon as they grow, the sheer number of fans will mean that you lose some of the tight-knit feeling of the early days, there will be more disparate attitudes, and more conflicts. It's especially hard here where we have one single page to discuss all the episodes and everything connected with the series -- with another format, there might be separate pages/topics for each episode, which would make discussions more disjointed, but would also keep people from being involuntarily spoiled. But this site is what it is and we have to make the most of it. It's easy to feel as if we've lost something intimate and special that we had in the early days when there were fewer of us, and in some ways we have. It's the nature of success.
Full disclosure: I am personally more of a spoilerphobe, which means that I tend to stay away from this page from the time the raw drops until I've seen the sub. I do this because I am neither able nor feel I have the right to keep other people from spoiling me on those days. It's impossible to control others, unless you have the powers of an admin (and even then it can be hard, lol). And since there are no official guidelines for this on the site, and all of us are ordinary users, we'll just have to try and coexist as best we can, which means being considerate and prepared to compromise, and I mean from both sides. As a new fan, you can't expect the page to be spoiler-free of previous episodes when the show is nearing its end, and you have to accept that you will occasionally be spoiled about new details that others might not consider spoilers, or simply stay away until you're caught up. And those of us who jump on the raw as soon as it drops can be considerate too, simply by using the spoiler tag. I know there's no consensus about what constitutes a spoiler, and occasionally there will be disagreements or slip-ups (I've certainly slipped up myself). And the higher our numbers, the more disagreements we'll experience. It's unavoidable, and the only thing we can do about it is try and be polite and kind, and try our best to listen to the other side -- and compromise. None of us are entitled to getting our own way at the cost of other people's comfort or enjoyment. My feelings aren't worth more than your feelings. If we have a request from others, we can try to put it in a polite, respectful way. If someone makes a polite request from us, we can try to put ourselves in the other person's shoes, and be polite about our response, even if we don't feel that it's reasonable. (I've tried to look back through the comments, and I may still have missed something, but it looked to me as if the original request for spoiler tags *was* politely phrased -- but the rebuttals weren't. Then again, I don't have the full context since the original comment it was referring to was deleted.)
The thing is, we are in this together because we love the same thing, and we are all valid, even though some of us are newer than others, some of us are more informed than others, and some of us are still learning about how to be and act in a community. It's not a battle, and I don't think we would gain anything by allowing it to become one and forcing people to take sides. I personally dislike artificial dvisions and hierarchies in fandoms (old vs new, die hard vs casual, "true" vs "fake" -- yes, I've seen all of these), and I especially dislike the pitting of one against the other. I've left fandom communities before due to this. Once you start referring to other groups in a disparaging way (like "some newbie said" or "it was *those* shippers" or "the old-guard clique") you've already set foot on that path.
The best fandoms I've seen are ones where the long-time fans act as enthusiastic mentors to the new ones, and thoughtfulness, reason and positivity reign. In any growing fandom, you run the risk of troublemakers coming in just to stir up anger, and sometimes they can succed in completely ruining a community. But I've also seen communities where such actions were immediately and firmly shut down, because all the other members had managed to build a very kind, inclusive, respectful and creative atmosphere, and were very disinclined to let it be corrupted. I know of one that is still, after years of continual growth, miraculously self-regulating without any active admins or moderators. It's not the small group of tightly knit enthusiasts it was in the early days, but somehow it still manages to keep the same spirit of inclusiveness and friendliness. And the only reason I can see why it has managed to do that is because every individual member is totally committed to keeping it that way.
As for this specific situation, it's hard because it would be impossible for all of us to agree on what constitutes a spoiler and what doesn't. I'd like to propose a very simple rule of thumb:
When in doubt, use the spoiler tag.
And another one, if I may:
Try to be kind to each other.