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Just read the spoilers, I stopped at ep 17 and am holding off till I have lots to watch. I can take the trickle of episodes and waiting.

She is in her mid-40s.

Its ok. I have well made dramas which I haven't even started so will just give it a pass. I don't have time for bad dramas. I saw the male lead you see and recognise him

No. I am happy for him to be in a rom com but there are at least 8 other actresses I like and it's not those 2. I don't want any fandom issues to spoil his drama.

You guys are so cute and I am laughing at the comments. I cannot take this 2 episode a day and am just going to binge on Friday. The momentum is lost because of the cliffhangers. I already know what happened to the brother and now knowing his lover went into a brothel and now being beaten to death has put me off. It was the preview.

And looking at you all going nutso over the bath scene that's what you all be talking about anyway. I like this show because of the writing and want to watch ep 18 to 25 without losing the momentum.

Cheers. I can't even come by for spoilers.I am now going to yawn my way through ep 3 of Queen of tears. It's my 3rd attempt trying to finish the episode so I can finish that darn series and see what everyone is talking about.

Didn't she try to redeem it as she had pawned it for her husband? I cannot remember why. I know she pawned her guzheng. So she tried to redeem it when she got back to the capital and Duke Su had been having someone follow her? It was in the earlier episodes so I forgot the details. Didn't the shopkeeper recognise her as Madame Shen or something?

Do you remember those scenes? You need to backtrack unless someone else remember,

At that point it was 25% into a story you don't know about. Its only ep 18 today.

You did a pretty big call to call that arc superfluous. Besides the answer below; her whole support system was built in that arc. I would call it significant. And no I didn’t time the 2 musical pieces time. 24 minutes for those 2 pieces of music? Really? It didn’t seem that long.

I would say losing one Li brother and Ye Shijie getting an official post a big arc. Her consolidating the cousin's friendships and make it 2 male cousin and one Liu family a huge deal. Plus the whole city knowing her name a massive deal.

This is pretty much a political drama now. If it advances the FL's arc it makes sense. What did you think this drama was about? Just the male lead killing and torturing? She has no martial arts skills. The writer has to show her getting stronger ie her support base in other ways right?

I was about to start this drama but all the frustrated comment are making me back away. No wonder only 157 users have rated this.

I see a lot of violence in my job including arrested accused murderers and rapists. But even I quailed at the husband swinging that spade at her head. Being buried alive is actually a terrifying way to death. Death because you can't breath is terrible. Those of you familiar with congestive cardiac failure or end stage respiratory failure will understand what breathlessness is. She clawed her way out.

If my trust broke because of a man and dying like this; the last thing I would trust is a seemingly powerful man who keeps saving and saving me. There must be a price. Is anything in life free?

You need a certain faith in the power of love to even think of Duke Su as a potential person to trust; much less love.

Its not been long enough. Seeing the Shen guy is almost a PTSD trigger. She is continually reminded of her misjudgement.

So yeah psychologically speaking and this writer is pretty thorough in mind warfare or mind games dictates that something needs to change in their dynamics for she still consider Shen her husband. To then consider Duke Su for her future. She doesn't want to get back or love Shen but her mindset must be that she is no longer his wife. Men can be bigamous in a Cdramas no female is usually written to be in bigamist relationship. Yes her original identity is still there. Yes in the novel she died and her soul went into Jiang Li.

Until the writer clears this up- it doesn't matter how perfect you think Duke Su is- the romance won't happen. Unless you're in some fluffy idol drama. This is so not a fluffy drama. And she is no brainless female lead like so many of those idiotic dramas.

And so? Will you stop watching it then? Most of the historical dramas have no true happy ending anyway.

That sounds too modern. I translated that into Mandarin and it doesn't come off romantic " say no more. " That sounds like a romance novel line.

The Duke so far has been a man of few words. He is curt, sounds cryptic but we understand what he means. The writing has actually been pretty good in this drama. By writing I mean the lines. Someone is very good in this team. Governor Tong's scenes have been written as an opera act so far. Rhythm and all. I have been enjoying the lines here. I don't even normally pay attentionn to the actual lines that much and go for the subs but have actually been repeating scenes to listen.

" Say no more. " is just not in character. Now aicwant something appropriate. We all know Duke Su will be assured and decisive. I have no brain cells at 5am to make him capitulate in his own style. It would not sound like a surrender. It would be beneath his demeanour.

I will try to hold off as long as I can.

Oh dear ep 18 looks very interesting. So I will get ep 17- 26 by next Friday. I could not watch further episodes and just binge 10 episodes at once.

Ep 18 does look so good.

Thanks. I didn't know ep 16 was on tonight until all your dying comments popped up. Watching it now.

Well he sure did in ep 30 of Scent of Time. Let me go back and look. His chest was not as filled. He looked like a young man. Not fully developed. He has grown more since. He looked better in the Amidst a snowstorm of love than in Scent of time. He looks better here than in the Snowstorm of love.

Yup. Ep 30 44:35. Look at the chest- I am not saying I normally even compute it but with the loose clothing- the shoulder width is ok- ish but the other male lead is better. The chest is not filled out like when you have a guy who goes to the gym. This is all normal for a guy his age.

I notice it as a aside. Call it a professional opinion. I once spent years seeing soldiers in a national service nation and know what fit young men look like and what soldiers in the special forces can look like. Seeing as in PT attire- because I was testing their fitness levels. The thing is it's when they are young, Like this male actor's age. Then I am around athletes and also people who lead a healthy lifestyle all the time and yes I know what someone who is built looks like. I also know what someone who is young and not as bulked up looks like. The actor is totally fine and he is young but he did look his age in SOT. Both looks and built.

Lol. I don't usually go into such details online. Like I said call it an accidental hazard of the job when you automatically see someone and have to guess their weight and age. Which I have to do anyway. Its not all my job and only a minor part. I can't help it if I am surrounded by gym junkies and some of my colleagues have to rappel off cliffs and do chin ups or other stuff. Yes, as part of the job.

No. Its the bright lights. Her age and make up is showing. Her acting is always excellent.

I swear I was only watching this drama yesterday but for the life of me I cannot get the image out of my head. There was this actor on some random video. I hope its not from this drama. Anyway the close up showed such terrible skin.

I figured the lighting must be very, very bright in this drama. Even the male lead's pores are showing up. Or whatever you called the pores where it shows he shaves. Its usually not so obvious.

Lol. The SOT comment about the other leads made me laugh. I am not going to watch that drama then.

He wasn't? I thought he was. His face is on the poster. I read the spoilers for ep 30. I thought that he was because he was in the last second of ep 30. He wasn't? Wow.

Oh this drama being female- centric? Have no issues with it. I am amazed they have found so many different looks in this drama. I can see a lot of plastic surgery everywhere but the females here have been amazing actors. I like this drama because of the pace. Its not galloping along but its doing a fast canter. I like the actress playing the Ye daughter in ep 15 and think the Wu Lan lady has such strong attractive bone structure. I have been admiring the female actresses looks in this drama since I started.

The usual one people told me to use. The k**sh one

Its only 1.55pm and ep 15 is out. Its truly excellent that I have a retailer upload time.

I actually went to check out Scent of time because its the same actor but nah. The vibe is totally different. Its Duke Su here who is smexy. He totally looked narrow shouldered and scrawny there and he totally looks hot here.

Thank you so much. That was the website? I think I was on Youku YT.