dannyvan

I would agree with you. The length in itself isn't a problem. It's the amount of stories they want to tell (superficially) and the unsatisfying payoff for each of these plots. I don't even know by now what the central plot of this show is supposed to be - is it the romance between the guy and the girl? The romance between the two guys? The stalker storyline?

When people say 6 episodes of 20 minutes isn't enough to fully develop a complex story they are absolutely right. The resolution of the stalker storyline was so shallow and anti-climatic. Plus, 5 episodes have gone by and the main couple hasn't had any romantic development. There are only 20 minutes left of the show where everything is supposed to finally happen.

Personally, I've seen worse (I don't think this is as bad as the confusingly popular TharnType), but I agree with the critiques from the different users on this thread so I won't dwell on my peeves with this show. Best thing to come out of it, though, was NuNew. I thought he did a solid job in his first acting experience and he's definitely one of the few actual good singers in the realm of BLs. Also, I applaud the attempt at the LGBT-oriented message of the final episode but that would've been much more effective had it been present throughout the whole show rather than a seemingly last-minute shoutout.

I really wanted to like it more, but 120 minutes isn't enough time to develop a stalker plot and the incredibly overdone and tired trope of the seemingly straight guy falling in love with a man for the first time. Even worse is the fact that 40 of these 120 minutes have been spent on said guy crushing on a girl. Like, really?

I kind of assumed they had sex but now that you mention it I'm second guessing my initial judgement because I don't think they said anything about it. Or maybe I just didn't pay attention because like you I don't care about them enough to focus on what is happening when they are on the screen.

I feel this is one of the rare cases where the secondary couple drags the show down. I mean they went from complete strangers to enemies, then from enemies to hitting the sack, then from casual sex to Yuki becoming a live-in boyfriend, cool stepdad (all in the blink of an eye). Something's off with them, not just the story, maybe it's the acting, I don't know. The main couple is a lot better, but not good enough to make up for the secondary couple, in my humble opinion. Maybe if the story wasn't so overdone it could be more of a fascinating show rather than a pretty run-of-the-mill kind.

I feel that generally Kluen is worse than Dao. In this particular episode Dao frustrated me more. But I'm a bit disappointed because I was actually enjoying the show but last week's episode and this one kind of threw me off a bit.

LOL you never fail to crack me up. But seriously Kluen is just as frustrating as Dao. Like I wanna get into the screen and slap some sense into both.

The drama, fighting and angst in this episode was so weirdly written, specially knowing that everything will probably be easily resolved next episode. Like, why are you not resolving it now? It's hard to create sympathy when people are creating their own drama and nothing bad is actually preventing them from sorting things out. To me Fah and Dao's relationship saved this episode because the rest was a bit bonkers.

There are two things to be said about your comment. First, the fact that you want a show to give you a 'fairytale' story rather than a realistic one is your personal taste. It's not true for everyone, at all. Second, you can be sad and pissed about how this show ended, that's fine, it's your own taste and perspective, but trying to imply that the show isn't good or worthy or trying to downplay how important and groundbreaking this show was just because it didn't give you the fluffy ending you wanted is just unacceptable and we have every right to call out these innacurate comments.

I'm so tired of reading that the ending of the show is somehow a drawback for the LGBT community. Yes, I understand that in the past, in the 90s and early 00s, gay stories tended to have overly cliched sad endings but come on, this has changed tremendously. Look at the world of BLs, 99% end in happily ever after mode (even though I can think of some couples who should actually not end together, given the bad relationship they had). So what are we suggesting? That no gay story can ever have a sad ending again otherwise it's bad rep for the gays? So no gay couple breaks up nowadays, nor do gay people lose their partners to accidents or illnesses? Come on y'all. Relationships end, people die, and that happens to LGBT people as much as it does to cis/hetero ones. The idea that nowadays, with so many different shows and so many genres that explore LGBT relationships, a sad ending for one character (even though all the other LGBT characters in the show got the happy ending they deserved) is a drawback for the community is just a little narrow-minded and incredibly unfounded. It's one thing to hate the ending that Tofu got (which I totally respect and I get it, honestly), but this conspiracy theory behavior is just too much. This show is more LGBT-focused and LGBT-positive than other 'happy ending', fluffy BL that we might have watched.

That was a pretty solid kiss, taking into account Korean BL standards, wasn't it?

I don't think it's a translation issue because often times they just stay quiet while staring into each other's eyes, which is even more frustrating than a half-assed answer. Like, the person asked you a question, are you really not gonna say ANYTHING at all? How rude LOL

Why is it that Thai shows have this tendency to have characters talk but not say what they want or mean? I mean, they are having a conversation but they never respond each other's questions accordingly and they always say something cryptic and then stare into each other's eyes without either one clarifying what they mean. Is it a cultural thing or it a BL (unimaginative) way to create drama and tension?
Also: that last scene. I don't know if I feel sorry for Lian, upset at Kuea, embarrassed by the public humiliation or glad that someone is acknowleding that the relationship has serious flaws and it won't work the way it is. I don't even know LOL

Maybe you should read your own words and apply them to yourself. All you said applies to you more than anyone else on this thread, really. The sheer hypocrisy is really alarming.

I will be very rude to you on purpose because someone like you doesn't deserve a polite response. It's so ridiculously stupid how you think that one sad ending for one character is an attack to gays living a happy life. That's pathetic and laughable. Also, did you see that the show ended with two gay couples together (and possibly married) and a possible lesbian one too or were you too thick to understand that? And did you know that this show aired on primetime television of a country that still denies LGBT people fundamental rights? A show that promotes acceptance of gays getting married when only last year the government of the country voted against it? Seriously the level of emotional maturity and intelligence of these comments is really concerning.

Oh, honey, now you're gonna have to tell me the story LOL. I'm all ears.

I don't mind Kluen's brooding and mysterious personality, but in this particular episode the lack of communication was at a level that was a bit too unrealistic. Daounuea on the other hand was sassy and straightforward and I lived for it. Now if I had Kluen and Typhoon hitting on me, I'd have both, not gonna lie LOL

I didn't insult you at any point nor did I word any of the things you quoted. You are now trying to divert the conversation by playing a role that doesn't suit the thread at all. That's typical Internet behavior, say whatever you like, get refuted, act like the victim of an attack because you don't have enough arguments to refute back. It's old and tiresome.

And I'm telling you why the ending made sense to many of us and I'm trying to explain why the ending isn't the most determining factor for the success or quality of a show and you're getting worked up that your opinion is being refuted. You started this discussion saying you were going to rant, so whatever you say is up for debate.