I think people should be free to like who/whatever ship they want to like without distorting what was in the novel…
Oh wow I didn't know they were being crazy too. I wish everyone would stop tbh. It's getting annoying and it's even more sad because most of us are adults.
Just passing by to say that, this is a really good drama. Though it’s not heavily on romance(slow burn I’d…
I think people should be free to like who/whatever ship they want to like without distorting what was in the novel to fit their ship. I've been basically living in this comment section and tbh I've seen an equal amount of XL solo shippers and Jing solo shippers starting shipping wars because one of the two always claims how XY did not love either Jing or XL and it's ridiculous especially given that this is a reverse harem story and this is not the first time that TH has made her female leads love more than one man.
I think another problem is how people on both sides, keep trying to make themselves seem better than other based on which ever man they prefer. There are people trying to make it seem like liking Jing means you like weak men etc. or are easily fooled in real life by "sweet nothings". There are also people trying to make it seem like liking XL or CX means that you like abusers in real life or that you are "too young" etc. Condescension is coming from both sides atp. The only solo shippers I have not seen be condensing in the comment section are CX solo shippers and the one FengLong solo shipper that I saw.
I don't think Tushan Jing had not broken his promise with Xiao Yao. He knew he was set up and felt confused about…
Not saying this to be rude...But did you read the whole novel? Or have you only read the moments between her and Jing that have been posted in the Jing and XY thread? Because all the other people who have read the novel that have been commenting on this comment section after reading it in it's entirety were able to tell at least that XY loved both Jing and XL even if they could not tell at some point that XY also loved CX. I'm mainly asking this cause I've also noticed that people who are claiming that XY never loved Jing also did not read the novel in it's entirety.
As for your question, she was not waiting for Jing. She paid extra to have her poison gift delivered to XL hoping he'd come. She also used to meet XL in that spot a lot. As for why she did not stay with him after he took her from the wedding, because he told her "FFB is dead" implying that they could never go back to the way things were. There's also a moment where he asked her who she'd want to spend the rest of her life with and she was in so much pain she could not answer.
Additionally if she did not like XL/return his love, the love bug would have turned into the heartbreak bug. That bug proves that they had mutual love from the time she moved it from CX to XL. There are many passages that explain how the bug works.
There are also many passages and instance in the novel that show how XY feels about XL aside from the few I have mentioned here. She is not just in love with his FFB persona. I just don't feel like typing them all because it would be extremely long and this response is already really long. In the novel XY loved 3 men. CX in the beginning, and Jing/XL simultaneously. TH often writers her female characters like this.
Honestly, I think at this point it's probably pointless to try and convince you that XY is in love with anyone other than Jing despite, in my opinion, it being clearly shown throughout the novel. Similarly to how it is pointless to convince some people that Jing is not XY's second option and that she also had great love for him.
I'm so thankful for this show cause it's the only thing getting me out of my LYF slump. It's so good. I'm glad we have been getting episodes daily so far.
To people who read the novel: how long did it take for you to finish the novel? A few days?
A few days but I keep having to reread stuff to make sure I'm remembering stuff correctly cause while the show does follow the novel more closely than most adaptations, there are a lot of things that they leave out that added...a certain richness? to the relationships that XY has with the men in her life. Additionally, there have been some new stuff added to the show as well.
I don't think Tushan Jing had not broken his promise with Xiao Yao. He knew he was set up and felt confused about…
Hello,
Sorry for the late response.
Your first question: When did XL or XY start to not allow them to be in a relationship and why? Answer: The novel is mainly told from XY's point of view but chapter 13 and chapter 31 give insight into that. Here are some excerpts from those two chapters:
Chapter 13:
[ XY continued pouting and XL coldly humphed, and then he suddenly asked, "Why?"
XY knew exactly what he was asking -- why did she refuse to kiss him and would rather die? She pretended to be clueless, "Why what?"
*** Fast forward to XY's answer ***
XL stared at her and XY said, "Because I'm scared." "It's scarier than death?"
XY thought about it and finally put it into words, "My brother, CX, he said one night when we were talking that I was still a girl who dreams. So...so...I'm scared that if I'm not careful, you'll walk into my dreams. And you..." XY shook her head, " You're someone who is never ever suitable to show up in a young girl's dreams. That might actually be scarier than death." ]
In this passage, she is basically saying that because of his background and the way that he is, no girl should fall in love with him and if she is not careful she will really fall in love with him. At this point in both the novel and show, XY is not in love with anyone. She is starting to fall in love though.
Now for Chapter 31 excerpt:
["During the ensuing seven days, Xiao Yao really did reconsider and think carefully. Every day she sat on the jagged rocks outside of the Dragon Bone Prison and looked out over the deep blue ocean. When Ah Nian went to get her, she could see the blue horizon, the red rocks on the cliffs, and Xiao Yao dressed all in white sitting barefoot on the black jagged rocks as the waves crested at her feet.
This image was impossible to describe other than Ah Nian felt a sense of utter desolation for her sister. Xiao Yao's image made her think of the legends of old, of a fisherman's wife sitting on the rocks waiting for her lover to come back, sitting and waiting for so long she turned into a rock.
*Ah Nian calls out to her sister and asks her what she's thinking about Xiao Yao says "Nothing". Ah Nian responds by talking about the day she pushed her from the rocks. Then she asked Xiao Yao what she was doing there that day. Xiao Yao says she came to see a friend. She then asked if XL harrassed continued to harass her and XY shook her head. Then Ah Nian says she thought XL was pretty fascinating. XY looks back over the blue ocean and says nothing.*
*Seven days later since XL doesn't come for her, her wedding announcement is made and XL hears about it while he's drinking and discussing things. He then stands up with a smile and bids farewell to the people he is drinking with. He walks a bit along the streets of the western riverbanks. He stands at the edge of the river and stares out. Misty raindrops fall into his palm creating an icy mist around an ice crystal ball. There's a description of what's in the ice crystal etc*
At a glance, it appeared that they were holding hands but in truth, the ice crystal separated them. They were from two completely different worlds, they could never truly be together.]
There are many other chapters that showcase them not being able to be together for example chapters 24 and 29 are some. In these chapters, her grandfather and dad tell her she can't be with XL and that "Her bloodline made the choice for her".
I hope this gives some insight. I'd add more but this is already an extremely long response.
Also, sorry about the attacks. I think a lot of people are just super passionate about this show which can be a good/bad thing.
I've been trying to post stuff from the novel in all the discussion threads to showcase XY's relationship to CX, XL, and Jing but I never ended up adding anything to the Jing one because people already beat me to it haha. So I've just been a silent viewer.
AH, mparthur, Ari_Lee, and a couple of other users have been doing a great job adding passages and context from the novel as well as things occurring in the drama that give insight into the relationship XY has with CX, Jing, and XL.
Mu Ba was marrried off as a concubine to the local official after Mu Qi or MZH escaped from the engagement. She…
Ohhh so she had to marry him in her place in the show? I do feel bad for her but since I like the female lead, I'm hoping she won't cause too many problems.
Have you guys seen the trailer of ep 20 with MZH's crazy sister? I'm wondering when that issue will present itself...Cause from the other trailers it doesn't seem like that will become a problem immediately. Any guess as to when?
Xiang Liu always been second option for Xiao Yao. Whenever she stuck with Jing, she looking for Xiang Liu as escapism.…
This is not true. Neither Jing nor Xiang Liu were XY's second choices.
It is entirely possible for someone to love more than one person.
This is part of what I was talking about weeks ago about people who solo ship because a lot of y'all, whether it be Xiang Liu solo shippers, CX solo shippers, or Jing solo shippers, choose to leave out things that were described in the novel or shown in the show that benefits whatever ship you don't like.
TH has done a great job showcasing how much Jing, XL, and CX all mean to XY.
I don't think Tushan Jing had not broken his promise with Xiao Yao. He knew he was set up and felt confused about…
I'm not trying to be rude...I honestly don't know how else to say this without coming off as rude...so I apologize in advance but..from this comment, I slightly feel that you don't understand XL's character or the motivation for his actions.
He would not have beaten her to death.
I do agree that he would not endure it but that's because he was/will never allow the two of them to be in a relationship in the first place due to his responsibilities.
Every time XL and XY get close, he purposely does something to push her away and that is intentional. He would most likely turn her test against her as another way to push her away.
Isnt it because of Jing working behind the scene that cang xuan is able to get anywhere?
I agree with this. CX would have found a way especially when his grandpa was always planning on giving him the throne anyways. He just wanted CX to prove that he could keep what was given to him.
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I think another problem is how people on both sides, keep trying to make themselves seem better than other based on which ever man they prefer. There are people trying to make it seem like liking Jing means you like weak men etc. or are easily fooled in real life by "sweet nothings". There are also people trying to make it seem like liking XL or CX means that you like abusers in real life or that you are "too young" etc. Condescension is coming from both sides atp. The only solo shippers I have not seen be condensing in the comment section are CX solo shippers and the one FengLong solo shipper that I saw.
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As for your question, she was not waiting for Jing. She paid extra to have her poison gift delivered to XL hoping he'd come. She also used to meet XL in that spot a lot. As for why she did not stay with him after he took her from the wedding, because he told her "FFB is dead" implying that they could never go back to the way things were. There's also a moment where he asked her who she'd want to spend the rest of her life with and she was in so much pain she could not answer.
Additionally if she did not like XL/return his love, the love bug would have turned into the heartbreak bug. That bug proves that they had mutual love from the time she moved it from CX to XL. There are many passages that explain how the bug works.
There are also many passages and instance in the novel that show how XY feels about XL aside from the few I have mentioned here. She is not just in love with his FFB persona. I just don't feel like typing them all because it would be extremely long and this response is already really long. In the novel XY loved 3 men. CX in the beginning, and Jing/XL simultaneously. TH often writers her female characters like this.
Honestly, I think at this point it's probably pointless to try and convince you that XY is in love with anyone other than Jing despite, in my opinion, it being clearly shown throughout the novel. Similarly to how it is pointless to convince some people that Jing is not XY's second option and that she also had great love for him.
Sorry for the late response.
Your first question: When did XL or XY start to not allow them to be in a relationship and why?
Answer: The novel is mainly told from XY's point of view but chapter 13 and chapter 31 give insight into that. Here are some excerpts from those two chapters:
Chapter 13:
[ XY continued pouting and XL coldly humphed, and then he suddenly asked, "Why?"
XY knew exactly what he was asking -- why did she refuse to kiss him and would rather die? She pretended to be clueless, "Why what?"
*** Fast forward to XY's answer ***
XL stared at her and XY said, "Because I'm scared."
"It's scarier than death?"
XY thought about it and finally put it into words, "My brother, CX, he said one night when we were talking that I was still a girl who dreams. So...so...I'm scared that if I'm not careful, you'll walk into my dreams. And you..." XY shook her head, " You're someone who is never ever suitable to show up in a young girl's dreams. That might actually be scarier than death." ]
In this passage, she is basically saying that because of his background and the way that he is, no girl should fall in love with him and if she is not careful she will really fall in love with him. At this point in both the novel and show, XY is not in love with anyone. She is starting to fall in love though.
Now for Chapter 31 excerpt:
["During the ensuing seven days, Xiao Yao really did reconsider and think carefully. Every day she sat on the jagged rocks outside of the Dragon Bone Prison and looked out over the deep blue ocean.
When Ah Nian went to get her, she could see the blue horizon, the red rocks on the cliffs, and Xiao Yao dressed all in white sitting barefoot on the black jagged rocks as the waves crested at her feet.
This image was impossible to describe other than Ah Nian felt a sense of utter desolation for her sister. Xiao Yao's image made her think of the legends of old, of a fisherman's wife sitting on the rocks waiting for her lover to come back, sitting and waiting for so long she turned into a rock.
*Ah Nian calls out to her sister and asks her what she's thinking about Xiao Yao says "Nothing". Ah Nian responds by talking about the day she pushed her from the rocks. Then she asked Xiao Yao what she was doing there that day. Xiao Yao says she came to see a friend. She then asked if XL harrassed continued to harass her and XY shook her head. Then Ah Nian says she thought XL was pretty fascinating. XY looks back over the blue ocean and says nothing.*
*Seven days later since XL doesn't come for her, her wedding announcement is made and XL hears about it while he's drinking and discussing things. He then stands up with a smile and bids farewell to the people he is drinking with. He walks a bit along the streets of the western riverbanks. He stands at the edge of the river and stares out. Misty raindrops fall into his palm creating an icy mist around an ice crystal ball. There's a description of what's in the ice crystal etc*
At a glance, it appeared that they were holding hands but in truth, the ice crystal separated them. They were from two completely different worlds, they could never truly be together.]
There are many other chapters that showcase them not being able to be together for example chapters 24 and 29 are some. In these chapters, her grandfather and dad tell her she can't be with XL and that "Her bloodline made the choice for her".
I hope this gives some insight. I'd add more but this is already an extremely long response.
Also, sorry about the attacks. I think a lot of people are just super passionate about this show which can be a good/bad thing.
I've been trying to post stuff from the novel in all the discussion threads to showcase XY's relationship to CX, XL, and Jing but I never ended up adding anything to the Jing one because people already beat me to it haha. So I've just been a silent viewer.
AH, mparthur, Ari_Lee, and a couple of other users have been doing a great job adding passages and context from the novel as well as things occurring in the drama that give insight into the relationship XY has with CX, Jing, and XL.
It is entirely possible for someone to love more than one person.
This is part of what I was talking about weeks ago about people who solo ship because a lot of y'all, whether it be Xiang Liu solo shippers, CX solo shippers, or Jing solo shippers, choose to leave out things that were described in the novel or shown in the show that benefits whatever ship you don't like.
TH has done a great job showcasing how much Jing, XL, and CX all mean to XY.
He would not have beaten her to death.
I do agree that he would not endure it but that's because he was/will never allow the two of them to be in a relationship in the first place due to his responsibilities.
Every time XL and XY get close, he purposely does something to push her away and that is intentional. He would most likely turn her test against her as another way to push her away.