phoenixfrost

The most heartbreaking part for me was when Shi Yan asked Shu Yi, "How much do you love me... Compared to you ex-boyfriend, do you like him more? Or do you like me more?"

And Shu Yi repled internally, "What kind of choices are you giving me? Can I choose neither?", but outwardly, "Of course it's you"

My heart just broke for Shi Yan. He opened his heart to a pathological liar who, having gotten so used to lying, cannot anymore understand herself and separate truth from lies.

another example of many commenters who are attacking the drama without even bothering to understand it, let alone watch it. those who cry "no plot" are the worst lot. do they even know the meaning of plot? that slur sounds like something a yxh would originate and get propagated by haters

After Shi Yan and Shu Yi left the wedding party, he asked her in the car to explain the situation to him but she just slinked away from him. That would have been the perfect time for her to own up, before the driver and Shi Yue told him second-hand versions of the truth.

Regarding her other lies, she lied to everybody. She wouldn't tell her mom she had a boyfriend and kept letting her mom hope Yu You still has a chance. She lied to Shi Yue when she was telling the girl about the uncle-(wrong) niece situation. telling QSY she was not serious about the uncle, so that lie went back to SY, another knife that stabbed his heart. When SY wanted her to meet his niece at the hotel for the chips conference, she said she went to the conference to work so begged off meeting the niece. Next time he wanted to meet, she said she was exhausted. When she and Shi Yan were in the car, she was quietly anticipating meeting Lezhi. When Shi Yan asked what's the matter, she said she didn't sleep well. She lied to Guan Ji and Shanshan when they saw her and Shi Yan at the hotel lobby. And many more lies and as many wasted opportuniies to tell him the truth.

if you're going to attack a drama, at least watch it first. the ML had a girlfriend before he met the FL.

Whether you meant some fans or all fas, that's still an attack against commenters that I undertand is not to be tolerated in mdl. And i thought i had made it clear - attacking a drama once is understandable. A normal viewer would say his piece, drop the drama then move on. But continuously attacking a drama means something else. It's a move only haters would do.

Isn't a discussion board a forum where we can discuss any aspect about the drama, e.g. a break-up is a good thing if that would make a pathologically lying character grow up or the second couple needs to communicate better, etc. It may even be used to gush over how good looking the actors are. I've seen other comment sections that are filled with such comments, but do you see that in this section? Yet those who like this drama are accused of being blinded by admiration for the actors and having no critical thinking. Aside from such jabs, there are also commenters who keep attacking the drama and plugging in their favorite dramas. I would expect a normal viewer who dislikes a drama to just say his piece, drop the drama and move on. But there are those who keep attacking it and/or the actors. If that isn't hate, what is? Also, what would comments like 'I dropped this" contribute to the discussion? The only thing that it does is drip with malice.

Your comment "I can't believe it got so crazy my review had to be deleted just to keep the fans happy who are so blinded by their love towards the actors, they won't dare to dislike any aspect of it. Develop some critical thinking, for your own good." that's actually s comment that attacks other commenters. So you think we are blind and don't possess critical thinking?

I can accept people who comment once about not liking a show, though I really don't understand why people need to post things like that when they know there are others who like it. But why would people need to keep saying they dislike a show many times? it's not just a stark demonstration that they hate the show and/or actors, but also disrespect others who like the show . A normal viewer who dislikes the show would just drop it and move on, not keep attacking it.

i didn't say you attacked another commenter. i said attacking another commenter is an example of several reasons an admin would delete a post. It's an example. One of several reasons a comment may get deleted. If you don't think your comment deserved to be deleted, try to get hold of an admin. And you were the one assuming things, thinking somebody deleted it to please "blind fans who have no critical thinking"?

He found out that the reason the fl went after him was because the fl mistook him for the uncle of her ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend. That is, the fl was just trying to get back at her ex-bf and his new gf. And when the ml asked the fl to explain, she refused to say anything So he found out about this whole situation through other people. The ml was heartbroken that it wasn't him she was after. Actually, the situation is layered. The fl did learn to love the ml that's why she could not tell him the truth, she was afraid to lose him. But her lies caught up with her.

YXH and water armies have pervaded the whole internet. Aside from Weibo, they are in Douban and who knows what other Chinese sites. And the negative reviews these haters post make their way to Twitter, Youtube and other sites. That's the nature of the internet.

Nobody says this drama is perfect. What drama is? But the criticisms this drama has been getting skew to the unreasonable and ridiculous territory. Those who cry "no plot" are obviously not watching. Same as no chemistry. Because people who care to understand the drama will see the plot and feel the chemistry between the leads. And those who complain about Dylan"s "wooden acting" are probably parroting a video in Youtube that had likely been made by yxh or have read a comment from somebody who had seen the video or simply just prejudiced against Dylan. In fact a stoic (wooden) acting is an approrpiate interpretation of Shi Yan. He is a CEO, not a teenage boy. Shi Yan is also reserved and taciturn. Of course, for those used to overacting, this type of restrained, nuanced acting would look wooden.

Which review of yours got deleted? You mean a comment in this section? My understanding is that admins delete posts that don't conform to regulations. For example if you attack other commenters, your comment will be deleted.

I agree with somebody who said you owe other commenters here an apology. We are not as low as those who keep putting this show down then telling people to watch some other drama instead.

People indeed have different tastes and opinions. Many viewers do like the acting, story and pace of the drama as well as the chemistry between Shu Yi and Shi Yan

it's the other way around. the ml refuses to talk to fl. it's coming up, probably ep 27 or 28

i think another problem is that, like most men, Guan Ji is dense 😄

yes, that would be so cute! 😊

Being one who drops dramas quietly, aware of how different people's tastes are, i don't understand those who have to repeatedly announce their dislike of a drama. They might not like the story but others do. They might not see the plot but others do. They might not feel the chemistry between leads but others do. If they do respect other people's tastes and mindful that others are enjoying the show, what else could be the reason for repeatedly announcing dislike for a drama? Isn't it to discourage potential viewers or lure viewers away to other dramas? This is what yxh, internet vermin who are paid to spread hate against and negativity about celebrities and dramas, aim to do.

You hit a couple of nails on the head there. One, Shanshan is prone to make conclusions rashly. Guan Ji is known to be a playboy so she thinks he is just after her because he doesn't want to lose a "toy". But obviously she has feelings for him and those feelings are why she doesn't want to be just a toy. Two, they don't know how to communicate. I think Shanshan wants commitment from Guan Ji, like a ring 😊

Shu Yi and Shi Yan's couple name is YiYan 🥰

The next episodes will be heartbreaking. I already feel like crying just watching video clips like this https://twitter.com/afterrnoont/status/1726127704574165423

it has become all about the self, with no room for consideration for others 🤨

What's this, a few conflicts and viewers are slinking away and cowering in frustration? Have dramas gotten so sanitized and viewers so pampered with beds of roses that stories are not allowed to have conflicts and characters cannot have flaws?

It's really easy to know when commenters just mean to defame a drama or actors - when the comments become unreasonable. When the drama is all pleasant and rosy, it's easily dismissed as boring and having no plot. When it becomes angsty, haters also throw all sorts of vitriol at it. (it's funny how people who throw all sorts of criticisms against a drama and its actors don't like to be called haters, even though that's what they are doing, including disparaging those who like the drama as blinded by admiration for the actors and having no critical thinking).

I've noticed a lot of viewers get frustrated with dramas that don't go their way. I've loved stories since I was a child, letting my parents read stories while I drifted off to sleep into worlds of the writers' imagination. Not once did I say, stop, I don't want to hear anymore coz I want the story to go this way and that, I want the princess to act this way and that, etc. And that's because I wanted to find out what the writer had in mind when he set out to tell the story. And most of the time, I ended up amazed at things the writer thought of that I did not envision.

A few times when I did feel strongly about a story that did not go according to how I wanted it to (after it had been read through), I wrote my own stories just to give vent to my frustration. This is why one time I commented that those who disagree with the scriptwriter write their own scripts.

What intrigued me most with this drama is how different the FL is from the conventional sensible FL who could do nothing wrong. And I'm eager for the scriptwriter and director to show me the journey this FL will go through to deserve a happy ending.