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Replying to Xm1012 May 1, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
So basically, the real ML Gu Chao Xi died during the attack in the wolf pit because of Wenshuang. The ML with…
I thought that initially but then the scene that they show during the wedding where the ML stops Gu Zhao Xi's carriage before it is attacked does not make sense. So by the time Gu Zhao Xi's carriage is attacked the ML is the one in it and he is the one put into the pit. And Wenshuang does not actually see what happens to the person in the pit, he walks away.

The person with the scar could be Gu Zhao Xi, in which case he is dead. Or he could be a fake, and the real Gu Zhao Xi could be safe somewhere, in which case it is an even happier ending. It's unclear.
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Replying to DistantDream May 1, 2026
Title Rebirth
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the…
I tried looking for it in the three languages I speak :), but I can't find a complete copy, only parts of it, and I don't want to get invested unless I am sure I have a complete copy.
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Replying to DistantDream May 1, 2026
Title Rebirth
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the…
I suppose that's fair enough, but even with this actress, they still didn't have to make the narrative choices that they did and end the story the way they did. This is on the screenwriter and the director.
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Replying to DistantDream May 1, 2026
Title Rebirth
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the…
I would have liked to read the novel but I can't find a complete English translation.

I understand that mountains of corpses happen in novels, I have come across them a few times :). But somehow they don't translate onto screens very well (which is probably why you don't see them). In Princess Agents the ice lake fight scene was very well done, it was realistic, impactful, touching and heartbreaking at the same time. In Rebirth, most of it came across like something out of a video game. Sadly, a lot of Rebirth suffers from that compared to Princess Agents (I really do recommend it, even if some of its aesthetic is a bit out of date at this point and even if I am actually a bigger fan of Li Yun Rui than Lin Genxin - Shawn Dou was phenomenal though, he will always be the one and only Yan Xun to me).
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Replying to Jiejie May 1, 2026
Title Rebirth
ep 1 started over.as soon as I heard Yan Xuns mom I started crying.her performance in PA was astounding. I respect…
The way they did that scene in Rebirth was a pale copy of the scene in PA. Same with the wedding scenes between Yan Xun and Chun'er. They don't hit the same way. (I watched PA right before watching Rebirth).
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Replying to DistantDream May 1, 2026
Title Rebirth
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the…
My problem really wasn't with the content changes per se, it was the aesthetic if you will and the narrative choices. I could have lived with the Princess Agents storylines being dropped if everything else was done well. It wasn't. Like the mountain of corpses example I keep giving. Princess Agents, for the most part, did things in a brutal but very realistic way. But this??? Even high fantasy like Game of Thrones did not go there. And some of the decisions by Zhuge Yue, Li Ce, his mother and the others just did not make narrative sense. And I don't even want to talk about that ending - there has to be a payoff to the characters' journeys and it has to make sense. To me, it did not for anyone other than Yan Xun and he was not supposed to be the main character of this story. This ending just reminded me of 19th century novels where the main characters suffer horribly and die at the end anyway.
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Replying to lilyviolet65 May 1, 2026
Title Rebirth
As someone who didn't watch Princess Agents, this is so hard to watch but I'm trying my best to understand what's…
It opens right where Princess Agents left off, but it's immediately clear that it's going to be different... and not in a good way.
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Replying to Jiejie Apr 30, 2026
Title Rebirth
lol - I found ep 1 disconnected. So I went back and watched Princess Agents again. Almost done - to ep 56. So…
Honestly, when Rebirth opened with that mountain of corpses, it was clear it was going to be a dumpster fire. I have never seen anything like this (and I don't mean this as a compliment). Having said this, I do think the actors tried, but this disaster just couldn't be saved.
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Replying to Fiona Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
I am confused a little…. So when did GuZhaoXi really died? The leader said he was brought home to care for under…
I assume so. I don't think the ML is giving up the crown prince title, and there is talk about her entering the palace and his complicated family, although it's not 100% clear.
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Replying to Fiona Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
I am confused a little…. So when did GuZhaoXi really died? The leader said he was brought home to care for under…
I think it is confirmed. They show the scene where their mother is attacked with her two babies and murdered. General Shen saves Yin Zhou, takes him to the palace and he becomes the Crown Prince and the head of the Gu family saves Yin Ci and brings him up as Gu Zhuo Xi.
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Replying to Fiona Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
I am confused a little…. So when did GuZhaoXi really died? The leader said he was brought home to care for under…
I agree, it wasn't a particularly well-executed arc, they should have just left it at Wenshuang killing his brother and done the whole Crown Prince reveal differently.
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Replying to Fiona Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
I am confused a little…. So when did GuZhaoXi really died? The leader said he was brought home to care for under…
But if he was the person with the scar, he betrayed everyone, so... But I agree it's very confusing.
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Replying to Fiona Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
I am confused a little…. So when did GuZhaoXi really died? The leader said he was brought home to care for under…
I think the one with the scar. Because in the end Gu Zhao Xi seems to be completely out of the picture and nobody is heartbroken about it.
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Replying to ShaashaS Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
Is her real husband really dead or?
I believe so, yes, unfortunately. But he is not her husband , they weren't married.
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On Within the Grip Apr 30, 2026
Title Within the Grip Spoiler
It's a HE! This was a nice little drama with a few surprises, I really enjoyed it. I've liked Li Ge Yang since In Blossom - I hope he gets bigger and better roles.
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Replying to Kangoreo Apr 29, 2026
Title Rebirth
LYR's acting is very good in this drama too. Unfortunately the script does not work. I like Yummy Yummy Yummy…
I feel bad for the actors because they really tried. But nothing could save this dumpster fire.
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Replying to Megumi-H Apr 27, 2026
Title Rebirth
This director is trying to create various ambiguity scenes so to keep viewers guessing and confuse.…one ending…
Yeah, sometimes writers and directors try so hard to make "art" that they forget that Occam's razor actually works and end up with garbage.
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Replying to Cdramalover1999 Apr 27, 2026
Title Rebirth
Won’t be so bad only if they continue the plot from PAI don’t think the original cast would help that much…
Yes, even the greatest actors can't save a lousy script.
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Replying to Cdramalover1999 Apr 26, 2026
Title Rebirth
Won’t be so bad only if they continue the plot from PAI don’t think the original cast would help that much…
The problem isn't the cast (although, IMO of course, as far as the cast, the strongest performances were by Li Yun Rui, the actor who played Li Ce and the supporting cast like the actress who played general Huan Huan and the actor who played the miraculously resurrected general Cheng), it's the story and the characters and the direction it all went in.
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