Thanks. Wonder why they're not putting the subbed episodes on YouTube this time around
I don't know but when thinking about it, iqiyi for example, they always put only a few episodes on youtube, and to watch the rest, you need to go through the app... I guess, street dance being popular, they used the occasion to promote the app... I mean, it's very natural to me, so I don't get surprised. Of course, I also like to watch videos on youtube, but that's not possible. We are still more lucky with the chinese shows or dramas, because to watch the contents from other countries we don't even have official sources most of the time...
Because it is a danmei adaptation and has all of the characteristics of danmei, then i have to answer that it's…
Let me explain it better then. Untamed is adapted from a Novel. The genre of this novel is 'Romance'. The author, Mo Xiang Tong Xiu, is considered a 'danmei' writer. Because the roots of danmei cannot be explained in a few words, I will write a short definition of it, given by Seven Seas Danmei. "What is Danmei? A Chinese fiction genre focused on romanticized tales of love and attraction between men, similar to BL (Boys' Love) from Japan". And therefore, as I said, a Drama adapted from a 'bl', certainly has its characteristics. (The novel is 18+ though, but the drama isn't). For a long while after the drama aired, fans discussed the romance, details, nuances, subtleties, hidden meanings, etc... But as i said, this is a very unique drama. And since it's subtle, and nuanced, it depends on the viewer too, as to what they'll see, or want to see... About tags .. MDL has a policy about them that seems to differ from other sites. Therefore I don't pay attention to them. But if you visit other untamed sites, you'll find many tags that say 'love'. As to whether you should watch this or not... Don't hesitate for a second... This is a unique drama, with an incredible plot... romantic and heart fluttering.. A classic already, you don't want to miss...
Because it is a danmei adaptation and has all of the characteristics of danmei, then i have to answer that it's a 'bl' even if tencent didn't say 'romance' in the genre... But you need to know also that tencent didn't say 'bromance' in the genre either, because this isn't a bromance and this could never be a bromance... Ever... Since you are asking the question, i'm telling you openly, this is a Romance, but, the truth is, I think one of the best experiences is to watch with a blank mind and discover the relationship by yourself...It's a unique experience because there are so many nuances and the subtlety is one of the greatest things about it... And i don't know why another viewer would think of this has an open ending, . because the definition of an open ending is that the ending can be interpreted in different ways... Whereas the ending of this drama is clear as sky:) it's the happiest of the endings. And a breathtaking one...
@floweraod... Thank you for blocking me. Because, I admit, there are posts, I'd rather not see:) As to calling someone insane, I can understand that what I wrote might be too much for you, so I forgive you...
The novel has an official translation but not all volumes have been published. You can get all of the information about the published volumes and where to buy them, as well as the upcoming schedule of the other volumes on this site https://sevenseasdanmei.com/ You can pay attention that it's available on ebooks also, just to make sure to tell you... Before the novel was officially translated into english, there was an unofficial translation. But I don't know where you can find it. The two translations aren't the same. If you speak another language than english, then you might also have it translated into your language. You need to check online.
The clan fights in the drama are done with absolute artistic taste. I'm wondering, what's the definition of good…
What's funny, is not using100 people in a scene, but to think that it's funny... You know, if we follow this logic, theatre shouldn't exist. Do you think that if a shakespeare pièce is adapted for theatre, they can actually put a thousand people on the stage? Or, if we see a film about world war II, we should actually see millions of people get killed? But I'd like to start from something else, because you are forgetting the important. When a director composes a scene, the important thing is what the scene is about. And whether there are two people in that composition or a thousand, there is a relation created between all of them. If you watch an american blockbuster with a thousand people in the battlefield, you will subconsciously know that the scene is about the brutality of the battle, about how many people died,, how they died, etc. It could be ABOUT THE BATTLE. However, a scene may have ten people in the frame, because it could be ABOUT THE HERO, his emotions at that moment, or relations with another character. A scene isn't about randomly throwing a certain number of people in the frame. What's considered in a shot is where your eyes should go, what message you should get, and what you should feel. Amongst other things. Cinema has different genres. The film can be more literary, theatrical, realistic etc. And this is going to directly impact the "language" of the film and all of its scenes. Even the idea of throwing in thousands of people in a single Untamed shot is funny:) This is a danmei adaptation, with a clear emphasis on the 'BEAUTY', perfection, aesthetics. An adaptation of a Romance, not a war movie. Your comment is against the mere understanding of Art itself. With this type of thinking, you can as well stand in front of a Dali picture, thinking it's 'funny':) because it's not realism. Well it's not realism, because it's surrealism. If we follow this logic, then 'symbolism' shouldn't exist. Neither anything else that's not a realistic depiction of your surroundings. But photography isn't about realistically depicting what surrounds you. If you want to show someone your houseyard, you'll take a photo creating a 'frame', by phtographing only an object, or two that will be representative of what you want to tell. Even when you want to show how beautiful a vast field of flowers is, you might just pick one flower that seems the most beautiful to you, and make sure the others do not get into the shot not to spoil the picture. Photography, cinema can use 1 person in the shot to tell about millions...
I have read mdzs several times and in different languages. And to me, I have to tell first, there is no gore in…
The word gore that means blood obtains another meaning when it comes to literature or film. There's a genre in cinema called 'cinéma gore' in french. And like any genre, this genre has many characteristics. A scene doesn't become gore just because there is blood in it. What is your definition of gore? Because that's where we should start...
I never finished the novel, but WWX in the live adaptation doesn't control corpses and in general there are no…
WWX does actually control corpses or puppets in the drama, however we call them, I won't cite all of them, or the scenes, not to include spoilers, but for example the 'girl in the red', or the puppets during the fight with the clan... As to the word platonic... This is an interesting word... Because it's all a matter of interpretation. We can see the day pass to another day in a movie, without seeing the nighttime, but we know there was night before the day... The same way, we can interpret that after we watched a scene, and before we watched another, something happened, and two characters are now lovers... Or, to put it in another way, it's not because we do not see two characters make love in a drama, that we can't see or interpret that they are lovers. I know that you didn't say anything contrary to this... but I just wanted to continue what you said...
Can I suggest you to write a Fan Guide for WYB so we can replace that super old article full of wrong info?
Simply put, because there's a lot to tell here... I don't want to write articles on MDL. Because, I don't like the Articles on MDL. And I don't understand why some articles get approved, when they shouldn't...
Just came by to say, I am impatiently waiting for a new XZ drama... Because I only go to social media for my favourite actors, I always come up some pages that are suggested to me that share many XZ pictures... Every time I see a photo, my reaction is, 'the most beautiful actor in the whole world':) Of course, his beauty comes from his talent and his heart, too:). Otherwise, he wouldn't be the Actor he is....
There are only two actors I can watch 365 days a year... And Yibo is one of them... Some people are just talented from birth. Of course, Yibo is professional to the core, working hard for everything he loves.. There's something inside Yibo that just attracts your eyes to him whether on Screen or a Stage... I am watching both this drama and Street Dance these days... And there are just moments, that I watch Yibo, and can't believe, to what extent an Actor can be attractive... And this is coming from a person who watches asian drama since 2009 and therefore liked many other actors before and I like many other actors today...
This is an excellent production and of course, I recommend watching it. But today, I didn't want to talk about the production, but about my love for the Incredible Wang Yibo....
Yeah I know I'm lazy for asking this but as someone who is a fan of the novels but hasn't watched the drama, can…
I have read mdzs several times and in different languages. And to me, I have to tell first, there is no gore in the novel. To be frank, I don't understand it when readers/viewers generalize a lot of things. Not speaking of MDZS but generally. For example, not all blood is gore. If I have to put this differently, a bloody scene in a comedy, in a tragedy, in a thriller or in a romance, cannot be described with the same word. The tone, the language, the lightheartedness, the style, the aesthetics, all of these affect our feelings when we read or watch something. And therefore, it is hard for me to answer your question, knowing exactly what you mean, because, to me, there is no gore in Untamed as there is no gore in MDZS... But if your question is whether the Drama is true to the Novel. Then, yes. It doesn't mean the scenes are exactly the same, because an adaptation is not a repetition but an interpretation, and second a visual production and a written work can never be the same, considering our senses aren't... But as I said, this drama from the very beginning, had the intention of being true to the novel (producers' words) and that was achieved in a most ingenious manner.. The Drama conquered all MDZS fans for a reason...
And being true to the Novel applies to the Romance, too. Because MDZS is a Romance (genre), and the Drama is as romantic to me as the Novel.
Because of its engaging plot, and all of its elements being incredible, the drama may attract viewers to watch it for thousand reasons. After all, we all watch movies focusing on different things, depending on who we are. And also, because this is a most intelligent production, it also gives viewers who do not necessarily believe in romance between men, the possibility to watch it "comfortably". To me, when it comes to chinese danmei adaptations, it has never been an issue of 'censoring romance' (a concept that doesn't exist), but rather giving different viewers what they want... Personally, I knew I was watching a romance from episode 3 (not having read mdzs back then). And by the end of the drama, it had become the most romantic thing I had every seen on the Screen.
Could you imagine a bigger budget cause the clan fighting was bad cgi but didn’t put a dent to this great story…
The clan fights in the drama are done with absolute artistic taste. I'm wondering, what's the definition of good cgi? Is it Marvels? Untamed is a multi million production. A drama that built +40,000 (can't remember the exact igure) square kms of sets. That bought rights to an original popular novel, has an original theme song for each character. Co-roduced by one of the world's richest... This is a multi million production that spent 2 years only on pre-production. Sure, if they had an endless budget, may be, we'd also have 100 episodes (I wish...), but the cgi would still not be disney-like or like in anything else. The clan fights have a 'theatrical' style. Just remember how they 'pause' during the fight, of the background music, the frame composition on the screen... A good film has a distict style, and this is exactly what's also incredible about this drama.... If a scene gives gives you the right emotions, is beautiful to the core, is surprising. that's the definition of good. I hold my breath watching the scenes, the visual effects of this drama amaze me.. And that's right there, the definition of good and marvelous:)
what the hell??? Why did the rating drop to 7.9??!!!!
I only know when trying to find a 'bl' to watch, i need to do search by rating but ascending instead of descending . I mean the korean short format films that seem like school projects have higher ratings...Apparently, in order to get higher ratings the criteria should be, no story, no writing, no cinematography, no acting.... As far as they speak korean....
Just coming back to say quickly... from all of the m/m dramas, this is my 2nd favourite. The first being cql... From writing to execution, this is what I want to see, when I click on a drama to watch... Extremely romantic...I love everything about it, but if I have to mention what I love most about it, it will be Hagiwara Riku with his beautiful eyes... Who wouldn't fall in love with Hira? ❤️
Because the roots of danmei cannot be explained in a few words, I will write a short definition of it, given by Seven Seas Danmei.
"What is Danmei? A Chinese fiction genre focused on romanticized tales of love and attraction between men, similar to BL (Boys' Love) from Japan".
And therefore, as I said, a Drama adapted from a 'bl', certainly has its characteristics. (The novel is 18+ though, but the drama isn't).
For a long while after the drama aired, fans discussed the romance, details, nuances, subtleties, hidden meanings, etc...
But as i said, this is a very unique drama. And since it's subtle, and nuanced, it depends on the viewer too, as to what they'll see, or want to see...
About tags .. MDL has a policy about them that seems to differ from other sites. Therefore I don't pay attention to them. But if you visit other untamed sites, you'll find many tags that say 'love'.
As to whether you should watch this or not... Don't hesitate for a second... This is a unique drama, with an incredible plot... romantic and heart fluttering.. A classic already, you don't want to miss...
Since you are asking the question, i'm telling you openly, this is a Romance, but, the truth is, I think one of the best experiences is to watch with a blank mind and discover the relationship by yourself...It's a unique experience because there are so many nuances and the subtlety is one of the greatest things about it...
And i don't know why another viewer would think of this has an open ending, . because the definition of an open ending is that the ending can be interpreted in different ways... Whereas the ending of this drama is clear as sky:) it's the happiest of the endings. And a breathtaking one...
You can pay attention that it's available on ebooks also, just to make sure to tell you...
Before the novel was officially translated into english, there was an unofficial translation. But I don't know where you can find it. The two translations aren't the same.
If you speak another language than english, then you might also have it translated into your language. You need to check online.
You know, if we follow this logic, theatre shouldn't exist. Do you think that if a shakespeare pièce is adapted for theatre, they can actually put a thousand people on the stage? Or, if we see a film about world war II, we should actually see millions of people get killed?
But I'd like to start from something else, because you are forgetting the important.
When a director composes a scene, the important thing is what the scene is about. And whether there are two people in that composition or a thousand, there is a relation created between all of them. If you watch an american blockbuster with a thousand people in the battlefield, you will subconsciously know that the scene is about the brutality of the battle, about how many people died,, how they died, etc. It could be ABOUT THE BATTLE. However, a scene may have ten people in the frame, because it could be ABOUT THE HERO, his emotions at that moment, or relations with another character. A scene isn't about randomly throwing a certain number of people in the frame. What's considered in a shot is where your eyes should go, what message you should get, and what you should feel. Amongst other things.
Cinema has different genres. The film can be more literary, theatrical, realistic etc. And this is going to directly impact the "language" of the film and all of its scenes. Even the idea of throwing in thousands of people in a single Untamed shot is funny:) This is a danmei adaptation, with a clear emphasis on the 'BEAUTY', perfection, aesthetics. An adaptation of a Romance, not a war movie.
Your comment is against the mere understanding of Art itself. With this type of thinking, you can as well stand in front of a Dali picture, thinking it's 'funny':) because it's not realism. Well it's not realism, because it's surrealism. If we follow this logic, then 'symbolism' shouldn't exist. Neither anything else that's not a realistic depiction of your surroundings. But photography isn't about realistically depicting what surrounds you. If you want to show someone your houseyard, you'll take a photo creating a 'frame', by phtographing only an object, or two that will be representative of what you want to tell. Even when you want to show how beautiful a vast field of flowers is, you might just pick one flower that seems the most beautiful to you, and make sure the others do not get into the shot not to spoil the picture. Photography, cinema can use 1 person in the shot to tell about millions...
What is your definition of gore? Because that's where we should start...
As to the word platonic... This is an interesting word... Because it's all a matter of interpretation. We can see the day pass to another day in a movie, without seeing the nighttime, but we know there was night before the day... The same way, we can interpret that after we watched a scene, and before we watched another, something happened, and two characters are now lovers... Or, to put it in another way, it's not because we do not see two characters make love in a drama, that we can't see or interpret that they are lovers. I know that you didn't say anything contrary to this... but I just wanted to continue what you said...
Because I only go to social media for my favourite actors, I always come up some pages that are suggested to me that share many XZ pictures... Every time I see a photo, my reaction is, 'the most beautiful actor in the whole world':) Of course, his beauty comes from his talent and his heart, too:). Otherwise, he wouldn't be the Actor he is....
Awaiting his new drama impatiently 💘
I am watching both this drama and Street Dance these days... And there are just moments, that I watch Yibo, and can't believe, to what extent an Actor can be attractive... And this is coming from a person who watches asian drama since 2009 and therefore liked many other actors before and I like many other actors today...
This is an excellent production and of course, I recommend watching it.
But today, I didn't want to talk about the production, but about my love for the Incredible Wang Yibo....
And being true to the Novel applies to the Romance, too. Because MDZS is a Romance (genre), and the Drama is as romantic to me as the Novel.
Because of its engaging plot, and all of its elements being incredible, the drama may attract viewers to watch it for thousand reasons. After all, we all watch movies focusing on different things, depending on who we are. And also, because this is a most intelligent production, it also gives viewers who do not necessarily believe in romance between men, the possibility to watch it "comfortably". To me, when it comes to chinese danmei adaptations, it has never been an issue of 'censoring romance' (a concept that doesn't exist), but rather giving different viewers what they want... Personally, I knew I was watching a romance from episode 3 (not having read mdzs back then).
And by the end of the drama, it had become the most romantic thing I had every seen on the Screen.
Even the chibi version of mdzs is romantic:)
Untamed is a multi million production. A drama that built +40,000 (can't remember the exact igure) square kms of sets. That bought rights to an original popular novel, has an original theme song for each character. Co-roduced by one of the world's richest... This is a multi million production that spent 2 years only on pre-production. Sure, if they had an endless budget, may be, we'd also have 100 episodes (I wish...), but the cgi would still not be disney-like or like in anything else.
The clan fights have a 'theatrical' style. Just remember how they 'pause' during the fight, of the background music, the frame composition on the screen... A good film has a distict style, and this is exactly what's also incredible about this drama....
If a scene gives gives you the right emotions, is beautiful to the core, is surprising. that's the definition of good.
I hold my breath watching the scenes, the visual effects of this drama amaze me.. And that's right there, the definition of good and marvelous:)
From writing to execution, this is what I want to see, when I click on a drama to watch...
Extremely romantic...I love everything about it, but if I have to mention what I love most about it, it will be Hagiwara Riku with his beautiful eyes... Who wouldn't fall in love with Hira? ❤️