All valid points and I’m not trying to start any issues out of this lol but what boggles the mind is all these…
There's only one part where I don't understand what you mean. In fact the genre of the Tale of Wanderer on JJWXC is Romance. Meaning Romance between men of course. Since the literary genre 'romance' isn't gender sensitive. As to teh term 'danmei', it's far from being 'lgbt contents'. I don't want to enter into this though within this discussion. But what I'll say, is that there are many misconceptions about this "type of literature". People who are interested could read about it on Chinese sites (translating the page into English, for example), rather than on wikipedia.
And I don't take anything you are writing wrongly. This is a discussion as it is meant to be:)))
All valid points and I’m not trying to start any issues out of this lol but what boggles the mind is all these…
As you said, in all of the dramas with m/f leads, you'll take a couple as a couple. But it's also because the drama offers this to you on a platter (starting from genre, synopsis and everything else). I can't actually remember any drama without skinship:) Including danmei adaptations by the way. A touch is skinship:) And personally, for me, one touch, well filmed, is worth more than a whole sex scene without chemistry:) What you are saying is valid. But the truth is also, that the same exact scene between m/f leads that would immediately be perceived as flirting:), won't be the case of m/m leads, if you 'don't want' to see Romance. Are danmei adaptations different from other dramas (in terms of how the relationship is portrayed)? Definitely. They give way to many interpretations. And I don't really mean that it is about whether or not it's love or friendship. For me, the interpretation lies in understanding the deeper meaning of some of the 'confessions', understanding every 'touch', every 'gaze', understanding from when they starting having feelings for each other, do they love each other or are they lovers. All of these are 'handed to you' in dramas with m/f dramas. But personally for me, THIS is also where the beauty lies in these danmei adaptations. Amongst other things, of course.
I am certainly not saying that everyone should see what I see, or that everyone should ask the same questions. More than that. These dramas offer a lot, so it is quite possible to simply watch them for martial arts, acting, story (depending on a drama), not even wondering about the 'nature of the relationship'.
Whatever I think of a drama, I still remind the official information to those who haven't watched the drama yet, and and ask them to take that into consideration as the only Truth.
I read one or two comments asking if this is bl or saying they'd rather watch 'bromance'... I would like to ask a question. If tomorrow I wish to watch a drama about friendship, would I choose an adaptation of Romeo and Juliet? :) But let me leave this aside for a second...
I think people's interpretations are valid as far as : - they aren't presenting their opinions as universal truth, - the 'interpretation' isn't simply them 'denying' Romance because of their mentality. This isn't called interpretation any more, and has nothing to do with the drama itself. - as far as they aren't based on wrong information.
The simple fact is, no one can insist that it is 'categorized' as a 'bromance or as 'romance', since neither of these genres is mentioned on Youku. Anyone telling the opposite, is spreading wrong information.
Also, please do not spread information saying this is bromance because of china's censorship. China censors sexual contents. Should we all agree that 'no sex' means 'no love or romance'? :)
It's really scary as to how wrong information can pass from one fan to another and be presented and perceived as truth in the end... Please remember that anything else you are reading on other pages (tags, etc...) are written by fans and amateurs...
Officially, this is a martial arts drama, costume, plot-driven (武侠,, 古装, 剧情). The only other official information is that the Source is a Romance (爱情).
And more importantly, instead of believing anyone, watch and trust your own eyes and feelings. If it's love you see, then love it is.
Isn't it like in life? Sometimes one gaze is enough to show or understand someone's feelings....
As for modern drama, I recommend you Hikari no Go. It's like a censored romance even though there's no tag of…
There shouldn't be 'censored' tag on ANY drama on MDL, And everyone should remember that 'tags' are written by fans or amateurs and not to be taken remotely seriously...
It's NOT BL romance ,, you want find any romantic dialogue or physical affection It's prober bromance only friendship…
"Some people are disgusted by homosexuals. I’m disgusted by those people". Mokokoma Mokhonoana
You should really stop writing insulting posts. And you should respect the fact that people aren't there to follow your wishes and live how 'you' want them to live. This is called liberty.
You are writing 'recommendations' but thesey aren't about the drama but about 'your mentality. And you are watching cinema to teach instead of watching to learn... It's a waste watching a film, if you have decided in advance as to what you are going to see..
In 2ha there is a saying mentioned:„Repeated rumors become the truth“...even though if it‘s not true at…
Thanks! Couldn't remember the saying in 2ha, but this is Universal truth. Rumours aren't to be repeated (even if they are to be negated), otherwise they become 'truth'. What you don't agree with, isn't to be repeated either, again, even if you are going to negate it.
It's a shame that dramas like this don't get more exposure on MDL. I'd even say 'necessary exposure'. I definitely recommend it to everyone.
And those who liked it, may be could share a post in the feeds to promote it ? I don't know if people are using this feature, since I am forgetting to use it too most of the times, but, when adding a drama to a list, or when adding an episode, pushing the MDL button, will share the information in the feeds...
Many of the people on this show supported the forced labor thats happening with the Uighurs. If you have a heart,…
If we start watching or not watching shows because of 'politics'... Should we boycott american show because they start war somewhere, should we boycott iphones because they 'employ' minors? I am just wondering as to what is the mark of your phone. Or of many of us... Cosmetcs? Clothes? Do you or does everyone else check where and how they are produced? What other things, brands, actors (from different countries), you boycott except for 'produce 101'? Or, could this be this the only 'issue' in the world to cause a heartache?
In any case, this will be my one and only post this matter. Because, this is 'politics'. And because everything seems to be ok to be used today to manipulate social media and fans. This has absolutely nothing to do with celebrities, or rather, talented, heardworking people doing their jobs.
PSA: sign your current kids, and future kids up for Chinese classes, so they don't have to suffer like you are…
Wow. This is a great post:) I know several languages but have been telling one thing recently. Why on earth I didn't learn chinese before??? I am getting frustrated that I can't watch chinese entertainment without subs or even more importantly read the novels. I am trying to change that and started to learn (after cql). I have learnt a bit since then, but still have a way to go.
They both focus on the complicated nature of good and evil. They're also both censored love stories. In that sense…
I didnt check the messages above, so have no idea what the debate is about (avoiding the site not to come across spoilers), but I came accross your name, and happen to know the answers to the questions since I have checked all of the official information in the past.
CQL genres on tencent are : Fantasy, Costume. The third word written in 'Plot'. I assume to show it is plot-driven.
MDZS genre on JJWXC is Romance.
This doesn't mean that all of the other sites are going to use this information only. From what I have understood some sites include other 'genres' and 'tags' since watchers tend to "search" for contents by using these criteria. And therefore, they might add more genres or tags, so that people can find the contents by more criteria.
However, I believe to solve any debate of any kind, we should go with the official broadcasting channel and the publisher's site (tencent and jjwxc, as you mentioned), since the criteria here would have been approved by the authors and filmmakers.
Can anyone who knows Chinese multiple word meanings help me out? In episode eight WKX says "You're my soulmate."…
I won't write about the whole 'censorship' thing, since I have a very different take on it. We can discuss it another time:) But to just tell my opinion about the expression. If you check the dictionary definition of a soulmate, a friend can be your soulmate. But thinking about it, from a different point of view, a friend or a soulmate can become your husband or your wife. Therefore the word soulmate doesn't mean it 'should be' the person you love, but that it could be the person you love:) Personally, I have always thought of a 'soulmate' as of your second half. And this is why, after thinking about it for a while, I thought that 'soulmate' was in fact an excellent and very accurate translation, since it allows you to interpret it the way you feel. It is up to you to understand, whether they are friends or more than that. The word would be right word for both cases.
I want to write a special post about the aesthetics and the music... Aesthetics : Unique, artistic. Very beautiful... Music : Modern, emotional and uplifiting...
And a special note for XZ. I have a hard time reading subs when XZ is on the screen... Because,I don't want to miss even one single emotion...
And I don't take anything you are writing wrongly. This is a discussion as it is meant to be:)))
What you are saying is valid. But the truth is also, that the same exact scene between m/f leads that would immediately be perceived as flirting:), won't be the case of m/m leads, if you 'don't want' to see Romance.
Are danmei adaptations different from other dramas (in terms of how the relationship is portrayed)? Definitely. They give way to many interpretations. And I don't really mean that it is about whether or not it's love or friendship. For me, the interpretation lies in understanding the deeper meaning of some of the 'confessions', understanding every 'touch', every 'gaze', understanding from when they starting having feelings for each other, do they love each other or are they lovers. All of these are 'handed to you' in dramas with m/f dramas. But personally for me, THIS is also where the beauty lies in these danmei adaptations. Amongst other things, of course.
I am certainly not saying that everyone should see what I see, or that everyone should ask the same questions. More than that. These dramas offer a lot, so it is quite possible to simply watch them for martial arts, acting, story (depending on a drama), not even wondering about the 'nature of the relationship'.
Whatever I think of a drama, I still remind the official information to those who haven't watched the drama yet, and and ask them to take that into consideration as the only Truth.
I would like to ask a question. If tomorrow I wish to watch a drama about friendship, would I choose an adaptation of Romeo and Juliet? :) But let me leave this aside for a second...
I think people's interpretations are valid as far as :
- they aren't presenting their opinions as universal truth,
- the 'interpretation' isn't simply them 'denying' Romance because of their mentality. This isn't called interpretation any more, and has nothing to do with the drama itself.
- as far as they aren't based on wrong information.
The simple fact is, no one can insist that it is 'categorized' as a 'bromance or as 'romance', since neither of these genres is mentioned on Youku. Anyone telling the opposite, is spreading wrong information.
Also, please do not spread information saying this is bromance because of china's censorship. China censors sexual contents. Should we all agree that 'no sex' means 'no love or romance'? :)
It's really scary as to how wrong information can pass from one fan to another and be presented and perceived as truth in the end... Please remember that anything else you are reading on other pages (tags, etc...) are written by fans and amateurs...
Officially, this is a martial arts drama, costume, plot-driven (武侠,, 古装, 剧情). The only other official information is that the Source is a Romance (爱情).
And more importantly, instead of believing anyone, watch and trust your own eyes and feelings. If it's love you see, then love it is.
Isn't it like in life? Sometimes one gaze is enough to show or understand someone's feelings....
And everyone should remember that 'tags' are written by fans or amateurs and not to be taken remotely seriously...
Because who said that make up shoulf be for girls not boys???:)
Love the show.
And what can I say?
Yibo is always so dreamy:) He's incredible!
Mokokoma Mokhonoana
You should really stop writing insulting posts. And you should respect the fact that people aren't there to follow your wishes and live how 'you' want them to live. This is called liberty.
You are writing 'recommendations' but thesey aren't about the drama but about 'your mentality. And you are watching cinema to teach instead of watching to learn... It's a waste watching a film, if you have decided in advance as to what you are going to see..
Rumours aren't to be repeated (even if they are to be negated), otherwise they become 'truth'.
What you don't agree with, isn't to be repeated either, again, even if you are going to negate it.
I definitely recommend it to everyone.
And those who liked it, may be could share a post in the feeds to promote it ? I don't know if people are using this feature, since I am forgetting to use it too most of the times, but, when adding a drama to a list, or when adding an episode, pushing the MDL button, will share the information in the feeds...
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What other things, brands, actors (from different countries), you boycott except for 'produce 101'? Or, could this be this the only 'issue' in the world to cause a heartache?
In any case, this will be my one and only post this matter. Because, this is 'politics'. And because everything seems to be ok to be used today to manipulate social media and fans.
This has absolutely nothing to do with celebrities, or rather, talented, heardworking people doing their jobs.
Funny how I see the contestants in different dramas today...
I know several languages but have been telling one thing recently. Why on earth I didn't learn chinese before???
I am getting frustrated that I can't watch chinese entertainment without subs or even more importantly read the novels.
I am trying to change that and started to learn (after cql). I have learnt a bit since then, but still have a way to go.
CQL genres on tencent are : Fantasy, Costume. The third word written in 'Plot'. I assume to show it is plot-driven.
MDZS genre on JJWXC is Romance.
This doesn't mean that all of the other sites are going to use this information only. From what I have understood some sites include other 'genres' and 'tags' since watchers tend to "search" for contents by using these criteria. And therefore, they might add more genres or tags, so that people can find the contents by more criteria.
However, I believe to solve any debate of any kind, we should go with the official broadcasting channel and the publisher's site (tencent and jjwxc, as you mentioned), since the criteria here would have been approved by the authors and filmmakers.
But to just tell my opinion about the expression.
If you check the dictionary definition of a soulmate, a friend can be your soulmate.
But thinking about it, from a different point of view, a friend or a soulmate can become your husband or your wife. Therefore the word soulmate doesn't mean it 'should be' the person you love, but that it could be the person you love:)
Personally, I have always thought of a 'soulmate' as of your second half.
And this is why, after thinking about it for a while, I thought that 'soulmate' was in fact an excellent and very accurate translation, since it allows you to interpret it the way you feel. It is up to you to understand, whether they are friends or more than that. The word would be right word for both cases.
Aesthetics : Unique, artistic. Very beautiful...
Music : Modern, emotional and uplifiting...
And a special note for XZ. I have a hard time reading subs when XZ is on the screen... Because,I don't want to miss even one single emotion...