Anofferhecantrefuse

This is getting boring and repetitive.
The characters, except HR, are evolving into one dimensional plot robots who are less interesting. The SML is getting annoying at this point. I had hope for him at the beginning. I thought he would be one of those SMLs who actually are important to the plot and not an annoying simp whose world revolves around the FL. I know it desirable to have a SML who's devoted but if it's the only thing that relates him to the whole plot, that's boring, cliche and honestly annoying and his 'devotion' seems more like stalking and unwanted attention (although I'm not sure if it's unwanted anymore because the FL is giving me mix singnals). The FL seems to be in love with the ML till episode 6 but now it suddenly seems like she falling for the SML or maybe that's just a misunderstanding on my part because of the bad character writing.
The plot is too convulated with too many objectives and plot points. Every character have some kind of motivation and plot relevance, while it's good writing to have relevant characters normally, here it makes the plot and characters feel rushed and too hard to focus on. We don't have a clear development in any of the character stories especially characters that were the most interesting; HR, prince JH and MW. The character arcs are too blur with rush and slowness at the same time (if that makes sense).
HR is a multi-dimensional character who's a lot more than just a romance necessity like SML. I hope they don't ruin that.
HCK is loosely written character that I still have hope for.
SML is hopeless so far.
Prince JH was an interesting antagonist at the beginning (his backstory had many character details and character events that actually are being showed in his twisted personality and motivations) but I'm not sure anymore.
MW (the devil) is interesting but is sidelined by the so obvious fillers we get every episode.
I hope it gets better. I'm still watching it to the end because I more interested than bored.

And I can certainly see why but I always appreciate a character overcome trauma of great suffering. The bigger the suffering, the more the pay off as character development and resolve (maybe I'm a sadist or something 😈 idk).

The first one is pretty heartbreaking but I've seen it too often in fiction, the 2nd one is something i would love to see a character resolve and comes to term with and the third one is something that would make me love DS's character more.

Why's no one talking about the apparent trauma of DS?
Like what happened to him? Why is he living like this? Why doesn't he reciprocate someone's feelings when he clearly likes the person?
Any theories?

That's one way to look at all this but honestly DS can do better (actually much better). I've never seen a more likeable and capable person.

The main leads are written so well. The contrast, the common and the differences between them is so stark but still so vague. It's like they are malleable who change, when it comes to each other, but still hard enough to face a cruel reality and carry on with their respective goals.
HR is so well written.
The 2nd ML is interesting but thank god we have HR as the main lead who far outshines the prince. The red eyes, his blindness (an apparent vulnerability), his plans for revenge and his secret persona are all mixed so well together.
His feelings for her and her special connection with him is all I need to be a die hard fan of their relationship. I hope the prince doesn't dive too deep into his feelings for her for his own good because there's no one who can come between the two love birds who happens to be soulmates.

Okay let's do that. Bye.

Difference of opinion and values are completely fine but when differing values breed negativity especially when they are nothing to each other is yet and he acts like everything is fine after some bickering is not fine.
I didn't say that the ML should cut her out of his life or anything of that sorts. What I've a complain about is his inability to feel offence and her inability to face consequences of her choice of words. He's a punching bad for her and i think that takes away from the characterization of the character and his overall believability. Besides they aren't in any kind of relationship except him helping her and teaching her for her own benefit. What does he deserve in all that; not the damn disregard and disrespect from her. She's flawed and I can understand that but her flaws doesn't affect his view of her even when those flaws question his feelings and worth. I'm not saying that class difference doesn't exist, it does but it in no way should be a reason to devalue a person. You don't want a relationship, refuse to be in one. You don't have to be an inconsiderate jerk about it by making others feel inferior.

Our view of people is a building of opinions created as a result of experiences and information about the person. DS's view of her isn't in accordance with the information and experiences he had with her. Sure she had moments of warmth but her inability to be an considerate and ability to infer everything only from a self benefitting and selfish prespective far outweighs her moments of 'warmth' but DS isn't affected by that which i think is magic called inconsistency of reality. He doesn't know her but believes in her which is a courtesy she doesn't return.

Besides I find it off-putting that he's there to 'change' her to his ideals. Change should come from within which required an unbiased and self reflective assessment. Sure someone could serve as a catalyst or someone can pinpoint but that's all. She is an adult who should have an internal compass not a child who should be reprimanded everywhere she walks.

You do realise that we watching a drama meant for us to understand, analyse and judge, right? This is fiction and I can question that it should make sense. Their story is supposed to be coherent and consistent enough with reality for me to appreciate it. YHJ isn't someone real but a character I know things about and so is DS. The story reveals the real them to me for me to understand their decisions, judgements, likes and dislikes. His inability to be offended doesn't make sense to me and her inability to values is off putting.
"You're being nice to me so i think you're in love with me but you're not in a position to like me because i am of superior status and have more money" (something along these lines) does sound like belittling to me. Just say no if you aren't interested and stop presuming that everyone is in love with you.

When you stuff a completely unrelated topic to justify her behaviour by comparing it to other characters in another fictional world, it completely dissolves the purpose of the discussion; which is analysing what she did wrong.

I don't mind her being materialistic tbh but I do mind all that not affecting his view of her especially when he believes absolutely the opposite of that when it comes to the internally held beliefs (which makes up a person) and she's a freaking dentist not the queen of England who can belittle people to their faces.

That would be a far better explanation than the one explained above; "he felt her warmth even when she was an absolute mess most of the times".
I will actually like this romance if that actually came to happen. That's human, understandable and surprisingly interesting. Thank you!

Absolutely. It just makes DS seem like the classic punch bag for YHJ who treats him harshly and he forgets about it after walking for a while and *boom* the next scene he's again in love with her.
I would've liked to see a man getting hurt by a FL's unjustified and harsh behaviour rather than making the ML a robot who doesn't mind anything coming from her (or does mind but eventually forgets it just because).

Okay. I get what you're saying but her doing multiple things for money (which she would've refused to do without getting something in return and he knows that) and eventually behaving emotionally infront of a patient when she should've advised on a professional basis isn't something that could convince me to believe in the fact that he instantly fell for her. If I start something for a goal of my own intrest and eventually receive what I aimed for by doing something 'good', I would call that a good businesses proposition rather than a quality someone would fall for and DS knows all that.

I don't think her treating people of inferior status or inferior income is something that can be considered not the "real" her. I think she genuinely believes all that. It's another topic that she's gradually changing which I appreciate the story for. My problem is DS knows the real her and her showing a rare sign of good or 'warmth' is what he propells her to do or be, not her acting on her own beliefs. He convinces or forces her to be someone helpful or good otherwise she's calculating and has a bad case of princess complex (which I am absolutely fine with as far as characterization and eventual development of character goes). I don't think that qualifies as some reason or something more for him to fall for her. I'm still going with the only answer I got from it; she was beautiful and he was attracted to her which is nothing bad but is something shallow to me.

Him not taking her side proves nothing tbh. People are diverse and I've seen beautiful people shunned down by people who were attracted to them. Being attracted by someone's beauty is still a stimulus for a establishing a relationship as is being attracted by someone's personality. The FL's personality is nothing special (even unbearable sometimes) but a mediocre one.

We don't know that DS hasn't received appreciation or affection from the villagers but the grandma is good person to start with. It's not like YHJ appreciated him or whatever. She has been judgemental and treats him with absolutely no courtesy and I don't know why he just leaves and then forgets about it as if nothing has happened and all that was not the 'real' her but her defense mechanism.

Him having his own opinion about her narrow minded narrative is nothing special but the basic sense on individuality and personal values.

I think DS knows how he feels different towards her (although I don't know why he feels that way) but is still not ready to be in a relationship. I dont think his struggle is a simple case of inability to differentiate between different feelings towards different people but something more which we have yet to explore. The love triangle is a classic propp which I see no value of in most stories except making the FL more desirable (for no apparent reason) or the cliche of propelling the characters to be in a relationship (which I'm tired of). I would have appreciated it a lot more if they actually behaved like adults who eventually get into a relationship based on understanding and consideration not jealousy.

Maybe people are confusing the term "understanding" with the term "accepting". I understand why she was treating him that way but I still dislike it. I can accept her being flawed but still not accept her flaws. She needs to grow up and start evaluating her internal values (which are pretty messed up) and stop treating people that way just because someone didn't want to reciprocate her kiss (which she initiated) in whatever form. Just because she's offended doesn't mean she's right. DS handled the situation far better than her. He actually put in an effort to dissolve the situation without putting up with her nonsense.
The piece of the puzzle here for me is why would DS like someone like YHJ? I understand why she would like him (I mean common who wouldn't like someone like him) but what i don't understand is him falling for her so fast without any apparent reason. My only answer, for now, is that she's beautiful and that's why he fell for her. That's the dilemma here; I can pinpoint multiple reasons on why someone would fall for DS but what I don't understand is why would DS like someone of so differing values and mindset. I can't properly pinpoint one reason (except that she's beautiful).

The story's effort to introduce a love triangle just for the purpose of pushing DS to actually act on his feelings is a red flag and a bad way to carry a romantic story. I mean that's boring cliche and quite an unrealistic one. Having someone confess to you just because another someone is interested in you is not what the start of a healthy relationship should be according to my opinion. To build something organic and completely autonomous between two people is always a better idea than to have a ML act like a freaking child who gets jealous and starts to act on his feelings (even when he's clearly not ready to be with her) just because the supposed object of his affection is paying attention to someone else. That's just childish and I can't take that seriously. I think the "how", "what" and "why" of the start of a relationship matters more to me than actually showing them be in a relationship and kissing. So far I don't understand or more accurately the story hasn't provided me with those answers especially of DS's part.
It's still early, so let's see.

GO and Elijah! Oh god no.
I was barely keeping up with his boring and nonsensical character and the romance with Elijah (who kind of saw her father in him) will just ruin the potential character arcs(if there really is one) in a plot where romance doesn't make sense.

Atleast i could have understood and be interested in that because their characters were interesting. Instead we got KGO and SH boring and nonsensical romance.

So i am frustrated with the romance in kdramas which either is so boring that you think being single is more interesting or so toxic (or more accurately, obsessive and non developmental) that you never want to date anyone.
Either the ML is a jerk, for no reason (which makes him look like a hormonal teenager), or so perfect (that you can't relate to him) either from the start or becomes so after experiencing the 'magical' love with FL. Aghh! The characters are just so boringly one dimensional and simple (especially 2nd MLs).
The FL is either naive and so innocent (which makes her look like a 7 years old) or she is obsessive and a jerk [which is appreciated as 'strong FL' when she is just a mess who does things that are considered 'different' and not 'typical' (When the 'typical' in reality is just acceptable, non criminal and normal way)].

Ofcourse not all shows are like that. Exceptions exist in the romance genre which are absolutely a treat to watch.

A friend from India told me about this Indian film called Tamasha (it's on Netflix). I was so stunned by its storytelling, cinematography, characters, music and performances of the actors! It was a perfect film (something i have rarely seen).
It just shows how much of quality cinema one can experience if the barrier of subtitles is neglected. I just wish i could rate and find Indian movies here on MDL.

It would be better if you explained why it is misogynistic to hate a character for traits in her personality (which is why most of complained about) and not because she's a woman. Using the term 'misogynistic' as a reason to debunk genuine criticism of others is naive if not stupid (BTW i loved her character to bits).

I agree!
Their stories (KYH's and JSA's) were far more interesting and impactfull, even when SA was given very little screen time to fully grasp the character, than GO's and SH's.

Well KYH didn't hold the power or authority to do that. He was a criminal who escaped prison by faking his death and his only choice that remained was to be a vigilante who as a last resort was to blow them up. KYH, the judge, could've done that but not KYH, the vigilante.