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Don't know why. Maybe it'll appear on the day it airs.

Here's the announcement https://x.com/lost10_tbs/status/2100872764114731442

So what would you call what she did?
Can a cheater never regret their actions?

I'm not really upset at anyone in this show because I'm not really watching it but saying its just a kiss doesn't immediately negate that it was a form of breaking trust in her relationship.

People generally do not want or like for their significant other to share an intimate kiss with someone else even if they regret it. Many cheaters have regretted their actions or committed it JUST once, but it did not automatically make it better or negate the cheating aspect. And we see that Her regret did not make it easier on her boyfriend to hear and know that.

Cheating doesn't always look one way.

Having said that, I think the show is more complicated than being just a cheating story.

Is there anywhere I can find subs for this?
Please let me know.

How does a character reach 100million popularity? Is it by a 100m people searching the name or something?

I do understand what you mean to an extent but couldn't they have come to this decision and compromise while still married. One of the things I loved most about them was how they conducted their marriage on their terms. Got married how they want, lived how was best suited for them and seemed to have fun being together. They didn't really seemed to be constrained by society to any extent and they certainly had no friends or family they were particularly weary of or answered to in any real way.

I like to believe marital vows are stronger and harder to set aside. They could have just agreed to take time apart exactly as it was at the end and he comes home when he wants but I guess I understand what you mean. There would be the existing bond of responsibility which might limit their relationship if they stayed married and so they were freer towards each other with a divorce.

I do think that given enough time and with their love, they would have found equilibrium again without going all the way to divorce. It felt like her core issue was that they'd lost their ease and were more like strangers around each other but it also seemed like such a quick decision to me. What exactly was her time frame for things to normalize? A month? Six months? A year? There was always going to be an adjustment period and it seemed like she wasn't willing to be patient for it to come. Or what do you think?

But maybe the whole decision was also a sign of her recurring divorce problems.

I'm desperately hoping someone accessible does...

First, I am so glad that I got to the end of a drama and still liked it, the last few dramas have been so over-the-top and illogical at the end that it diminished the watch experience for things I’d been enjoying.

That said, this one had an end I didn’t actually forsee, I was so sure that she would end up with her husband.
I am a die-hard try all you can, use every tool and strategy and strength you have to fight for your marriage (and I still am) but I didn’t mind this end one bit and I think it was because of the way the story made it happen. It felt organic. I knew the trust would not be the same again, when trust is broken that deep in a marriage (and that is not even the emotional affair but the abandonment for a year), it is really hard to just move on. I like that they tackled the abandonment.

I saw someone say they were tired of the rehashing of the thing between Azusa and Mitsuru but I never got tired of it. I loved how much they tackled it, it was done from different perspectives and all of them even the ones I didn't agree with made me think deeply which I enjoyed. They were trying to unravel something that was not easy to unravel and coming to a place where they could sort out the why of it even if not the entirety of it because let’s be honest, there was an intimacy to that relationship that was more than mere monthly acquaintances (as we see from Itsuki and Sakiko’s own relationship that sort of reflects theirs). But was it an affair??

I so loved the relationship between Itsuki and Sakiko. I liked the way the relationship built slowly and we could genuinely see when they became a support to the other. I liked the vague sense of a desire for ‘more’ we get from Itsuki from time to time. I liked that their friendship transcended the formal and became free and easy. I like that the trust didn’t erode after Mitsuru’s return but I also like that it wasn’t the thing that eroded her marriage.

I even liked how we were subtly cued into Naoto’s maybe-crush on her and how it didn’t really matter (since he "liked" Mitsuru more so he wouldn’t hurt him like that). I even liked the way he got it out, it was a do with it what you like, quite respectful and airy. I liked the vague competitiveness between him and Itsuki over Sakiko and I liked that he had a bite to him.

I personally don’t believe that they should have gotten a divorce but the best part of this drama is the gentle exploration of people and relationships. The respectful way they dissect it from different angles and perspectives, and what sometimes seems restrained turns to a deep consideration.
All that is why I don’t think I would have minded any end at all, Sakiko alone, with Itsuki or Mitsuru. They all work for me though I don’t believe Sakiko or Mitsuru actually worked on their problems.

Mitsuru is still running (and sort of encouraging a kid to do so ((I did not like that at all) the man truly learnt nothing and didn’t really grow) and Sakiko will probably keep divorcing on a whim but it still didn’t diminish the drama for me for some reason.
I have no idea what they put in this drama but I really loved it and would love to see more like this. Maybe one with believable growth that will show one or both of them working on their problems in a believable way that shows they are able to move forward healthily without going back to their “bad” habit.

For pure enjoyment, interesting and reflective dialogue, great characters, a visually beautiful show, and a logical though admittedly stunted story, I’m giving it a 9.

I'm not sure if this long comment made full sense but I'm feeling quite happy right now and I just really love the way the Japanese tackle topics and dramas like this.

I love this show. I didn't expect to like it so much and based on some of the takes I'd seen, and I thought I might not like the end but I ended up really liking it too even if I didn't agree fully with it. The story delivered in such a nuanced and reflective way that no matter how it ended, I probably would still have been okay.
The actors are the life blood of this show. I adore Sakiko, she's so lovely and her acting is a pleasure to watch. Sonoda's voice is a treasure (deep and drawly) and everyone in the cast was just so right. I even like that Naoto had a bite to him and everyone just felt flawed and human.

Are you being serious with this or just joking? I mean about the low scores coming from "ugly" women to "beautiful" women?
Is that a belief you just personally hold or have you seen actual proof of it in any real tangible way?
Because how does the logic hold up for highly rated shows with beautiful women? Or even with the same woman like with the FL in this and her drama 'Dearest'?

I'm in episode 4 and I'm enjoying it but I just stopped by to say that this how is so pleasing to the eyes. The locations, the shots, the color and cinematography make it such an aesthetically pleasing show.

I think Nox has a point. While I understand the idea of "its just a fantasy and doesn't hurt anyone" isn't that only to a degree?
I think fantasizing long enough on anything can have an effect on the person and especially for younger people and the more negative the thing we fantasize about the more negative its effects. We know that porn can distort the sexual growth and outlook of a boy/man so why can't a distorted and unrealistic view of relationships hurt a girl/woman especially when she spends alot of consuming and enjoying it.
Even right now, I think many unrealistic ideas of relationship sold to us in books and dramas are hurting many real relationships.

Thank you for subbing this.

What even was the cult's ideology or goal if I may ask? Does anyone know? It seemed very vague. They needed a Mataji for?????

Hmm..... To make it seem like her helming a delusional cult (kindly?) and leading it happily ever after(??) was the best possible end is just wild to me.
All that for their "nice" people cult to win and miss unethical god-complex woman to care for her "daughter" is a serious letdown and Ushio to be a Frankenstein monster???

I get that. Maybe its cos they do not want to commit fully to the story they are telling. Its almost like they are afraid to go all the way with something that will be uncomfortable and messy and so we are left with alot of half-baked actions/scenes and feelings.

And I still wonder why a show about the death or revival of a 10yr (lifelong imo) relationship has to have them entangled with other people at the exact same time! I thought it would be about her dealing with the curiousity or crush from a new person, comparing it to the lack of excitement from her existing relationship and we would see how that influences them going forward, the actions and decisions they take and the outcome of those decisions and how it all affects him (the one who is still all in), and how it might also give him the excuse to engage with someone new and all that.

Why can't they deal with their sparkless relationship in different ways? Is the introduction of new love angles for both the only way to explore this dynamic?

But that drama already exists. The story they are telling here is different.

I don't think this is better or worse, just different. And this might still be a HE based on its own context.

It'll be available on Netflix worldwide.

I understand what you mean and while I generally prefer the Japanese method and way of reflection, this show has only just begun so lets not judge it so quickly and see how it goes, it might be deeper and more insightful than it looks (though the trailer and first episode doesn't really give me much hope).

I thought the story seemed similar too. What do you mean by the drama effect will be intense?

I've wondered too if it won't be dragged for the sake of the episode count. And the trailer seemed more lighthearted and softer than I thought it'd be.
I hope it goes well.